Fielder

[Tyler Durden]

That rather conveniently overlooks seasons five and six going back, 157 and 162.  I think overall his durability is not a major question.

I would love to get him extended, but five and six seasons ago was a long time ago.  It's generally not a good idea to pay for past performance.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Tyler - I guess I'd explore putting in a quality pitcher along with LaRoche and money to pay for him if it got us Jackson.

your idea isn't bad either.  I was more or less putting together a non-Fielder, end-the-LAC scenario as an example of what SSB was talking about - boosting competitiveness through eating contracts and taking on bad contracts.  What I like about that approach is you always have money coming off budget so you can always find quality short-term replacements.  It is consistent with developing internal options because there are no long term impediments.  But your way would work in this case, probably for less money.  however, I have a preference for Abreu than Damon at leadoff if we were to take on a vet.

[Ray D]

I would love to get him extended.

Funny, that's the same thing  Heather said.

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS305US305&biw=1600&bih=763&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=B5kiHbZacDni5M:&imgrefurl=http://www.georgetowner.com/articles/2011/jul/12/night-park/&docid=OK8lUnfwzQumBM&imgurl=http://www.georgetowner.com/media/images/derivatives/article_Ryan_Zimmerman_and_girlfriend_Heather_Downen.JPG&w=645&h=429&ei=Sx4HT7H0J8KatweZkKTQBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=364&vpy=151&dur=1502&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=110&ty=130&sig=115932790879294425998&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=201&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

[Mr Clean]

Buster Olney tweets: 'There is great skepticism about a very long term deal with Fielder in some corners of the Nats' org. Owners votes count the most, of course.'

Don't know what to make of this one.

[HalfSmokes]

I would love to get him extended, but five and six seasons ago was a long time ago.  It's generally not a good idea to pay for past performance.

I'm just wondering what you think our window is? I think it opens in 2013 and stays open until financial restrictions start to remove core players and Werth's salary become a real hinderance vs his performance.  If you pull the best bat out of the lineup in 2014 because you don't want to pay for past performance, are you hoping a guy who hasn't thrown form third to frist yet as a professional can immediately step in and replace him?

[Tyler Durden]

The window to win it all opens in 2013 - I agree.  The rest we don't really know because it is so dependent on how much the Lerners are willing to spend.  The window might very well close after 2013.

I'd like to sign everyone and extend everyone.  I just haven't seen the willingness on the part of ownership to do that.

[HalfSmokes]

The window to win it all opens in 2013 - I agree.  The rest we don't really know because it is so dependent on how much the Lerners are willing to spend.  The window might very well close after 2013.

I'd like to sign everyone and extend everyone.  I just haven't seen the willingness on the part of ownership to do that.

If cost is the issue with a Zimmerman extension, I will boo Werth every time he comes up

[Kevrock]

If cost is the issue with a Zimmerman extension, I will boo Werth every time he comes

That will show them.

[Evolution33]

Buster Olney tweets: 'There is great skepticism about a very long term deal with Fielder in some corners of the Nats' org. Owners votes count the most, of course.'

Don't know what to make of this one.

If there weren't people in the organization that disagreed with every move then it wouldn't be a good organization. Don't really want the GM and owners surrounded by a bunch of yes men.

[mitlen]

If there weren't people in the organization that disagreed with every move then it wouldn't be a good organization. 

As long as it isn't the same people and they are Lerners.

[hammondsnats]

i really just don't see any reason not to sign him.  he would really help take the nats to a new level.

[Vespy]

What is a very long-term deal is that like 10 or 8 years? maybe we can get Fielder for 7 years at about 170 million.

[hammondsnats]

again i don't think he's getting 10 years, so at least 6 should get it done.

[InsaneBoost]

I'm a bit confused, maybe I'm just simple. Wouldn't great skepticism be bad for the Nationals in landing him?

[mach1ne]

"again i don't think he's getting 10 years, so at least 6 should get it done."

I'm pretty sure Boras isn't going to agree to a deal right now for 6 years.  The reason there is this delay is because he is asking for 10.  "A very long term deal" would imply something along the lines of 10 years.

[HalfSmokes]

That will show them.

at that point, if rendon flops, I'm probably giving up until Rizzo is gone

[Mr Clean]

Check out what they are saying in Taiwan re Fielder:

http://www.natsenquirer.com

[Kevrock]

at that point, if rendon flops, I'm probably giving up until Rizzo is gone

If we're at that point, there's not much point in caring until the Lerners are gone.

"again i don't think he's getting 10 years, so at least 6 should get it done."

I'm pretty sure Boras isn't going to agree to a deal right now for 6 years.  The reason there is this delay is because he is asking for 10.  "A very long term deal" would imply something along the lines of 10 years.

Teams probably want to go 5 years max but can be convinced to go 6 if it would close the deal. Boras is working down from 10 or whatever. It will probably be settled at 6 or 7 years. I would hold out at 5, conceding the 6th year if it would get the deal done. I'm not sure I'd offer him a 7th. Who else is out there offering a 7 year deal?

[blue911]

Check out what they are saing in Taiwan re Fielder:

http://www.natsenquirer.com

Could we get her to replace Debbi Taylor?

[Slateman]

Funny, that's the same thing  Heather said.

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS305US305&biw=1600&bih=763&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=B5kiHbZacDni5M:&imgrefurl=http://www.georgetowner.com/articles/2011/jul/12/night-park/&docid=OK8lUnfwzQumBM&imgurl=http://www.georgetowner.com/media/images/derivatives/article_Ryan_Zimmerman_and_girlfriend_Heather_Downen.JPG&w=645&h=429&ei=Sx4HT7H0J8KatweZkKTQBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=364&vpy=151&dur=1502&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=110&ty=130&sig=115932790879294425998&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=201&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

Oh dear ... she is good looking ...

[houston-nat]

If cost is the issue with a Zimmerman extension, I will boo Werth every time he comes

Stop watching Werth come, perv.

[Lintyfresh85]

Stop watching Werth come, perv.

[comish4lif]

That rather conveniently overlooks seasons five and six going back, 157 and 162.  I think overall his durability is not a major question.

He's played 140+ games in 2 of the past 4 seasons, you want to ignore that? That's your choice. I'm more concerned with recent history than what any player did 5-6 years ago.

[HalfSmokes]

He's played 140+ games in 2 of the past 4 seasons, you want to ignore that? That's your choice. I'm more concerned with recent history than what any player did 5-6 years ago.

Fielde for six then? He's extremely durable

[comish4lif]

"again i don't think he's getting 10 years, so at least 6 should get it done."

I'm pretty sure Boras isn't going to agree to a deal right now for 6 years.  The reason there is this delay is because he is asking for 10.  "A very long term deal" would imply something along the lines of 10 years.

I cannot think of a team that would be willing to go to the 7-8 year range for Prince.

Not the Yanks, Mets, Sox White nor Red, Phils, Angels, Dodgers, Tigers, Rockies, not the rebuilding Cubs, I think the Rangers are preoccupied with Yu... who else has that kind of money and a need at First? Us. Maybe the Brewers and the Cubs if the dollars and years go low enough.

I see us, maybe the Cubs if the money gets low enough, Brewers if they are nto feeling jilted. Maybe the Jays...