Nyjer Morgan Opens Up About Fight With Jayson Werth, Throws One More Jab

[Lintyfresh85]

Nyjer Morgan weigh in on Jayson Werth

    "Even in my worst year [in 2010], I hit .253," Morgan said. "What did [Werth] hit?"

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-nationals/2011/10/12/2484784/nyjer-morgan-milwaukee-brewers-jayson-werth-nlcs

[tomterp]

Nyjer Morgan weigh in on Jayson Werth

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-nationals/2011/10/12/2484784/nyjer-morgan-milwaukee-brewers-jayson-werth-nlcs

Well, Morgan hit for higher average than Werth, so he's the better hitter.  Case closed.

[The Chief]

Well, Morgan hit for higher average than Werth, so he's the better hitter.  Case closed.

*in 2011

And technically this is accurate.  I stand by my previous stance

[The Chief]

Seemed like this was worth a separate thread.

[MarquisDeSade]

I really hope that when the Brewers come to town next year after winning the WS, Werth cries after getting his azz kicked by Nyjer.

[The Chief]

Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post talked to Morgan about the incident and his journey back to respectability.

Morgan may have journeyed back to success - at least temporarily - but he will never arrive back at respectability.

[MarquisDeSade]

Morgan may have journeyed back to success - at least temporarily - but he will never arrive back at respectability.

Irrelevant.  Winning trumps all, including respectability.

[The Chief]

I don't believe I said otherwise.

[MarquisDeSade]

I don't believe I said otherwise.

Oh, I know, I was just interjecting my idiotic comment as required by law. 

[mitlen]

Give it time.   Nyjer was the toast of Pittsburgh and Washington too.   He'll freak it up.   

[PowerBoater69]

Well, Morgan hit for higher average than Werth, so he's the better hitter.  Case closed.

Better BA, SLG, and OBP, better fielding percentage too.

[Evolution33]

Better BA, SLG, and OBP, better fielding percentage too.

That is the flaw with SLG Werth had an ISO of .157 and Morgan .117. This entire argument is kind of dumb as players should be valued by their entire career and comparing one players best season to another's worst is kind of pointless. I can look it up and see that Brady Anderson in his best year was better than Mickey Mantle, but I am not sure that is anything to brag about.

[PowerBoater69]

That is the flaw with SLG Werth had an ISO of .157 and Morgan .117. This entire argument is kind of dumb as players should be valued by their entire career and comparing one players best season to another's worst is kind of pointless. I can look it up and see that Brady Anderson in his best year was better than Mickey Mantle, but I am not sure that is anything to brag about.

To project how a player will perform next year career stats should be weighted with the most recent being the most relevant.

In the case of Anderson v. Mantle, I'd strongly argue that Anderson would perform at least marginally better in 2012.

[Evolution33]

To project how a player will perform next year career stats should be weighted with the most recent being the most relevant.

In the case of Anderson v. Mantle, I'd strongly argue that Anderson would perform at least marginally better in 2012.

I don't know man. The remains of Mickey Mantle would have an awful tiny strike zone.

[mitlen]

I don't know man. The remains of Mickey Mantle would have an awful tiny strike zone.

 

[The Chief]

That is the flaw with SLG Werth had an ISO of .157 and Morgan .117.

The fact that two different versions of ISO exist are enough to make it useless to me.  PECOTA's version makes more sense, but frankly I don't find SLG or either version of ISO to be terribly useful "eyeball" stats.  They all suffer from the same problem of "true" slugging vs "gapper" slugging.  I'd rather just look at the actual count of doubles/triples/homeruns for a guy to get a feel for what kind of hitter a player is.

[Evolution33]

The fact that two different versions of ISO exist are enough to make it useless to me.  PECOTA's version makes more sense, but frankly I don't find SLG or either version of ISO to be terribly useful "eyeball" stats.  They all suffer from the same problem of "true" slugging vs "gapper" slugging.  I'd rather just look at the actual count of doubles/triples/homeruns for a guy to get a feel for what kind of hitter a player is.

ISO is just subtracting BA from SLG. As far as I know there isn't another version of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolated_Power

[The Chief]

Hmm, perhaps the page Google took me to was wrong.  I still think the rest of what I said applies though.

[Bloo]

Nyjer makes around the league minimum in salary. Werth will make 126 million through 7 years. Tell me that doesn't rattle you when you see someone with those poor of numbers. Nats fan rant on werthless all the time. Why can't nyjer?

[mitlen]

Nyjer makes around the league minimum in salary. Werth will make 126 million a year. Tell me that doesn't rattle you when you see someone with those poor of numbers. Nats fan rant on werthless all the time. Why can't nyjer?

'Cause Nyjer is "werthless".     It ain't about the money.   It's about the man.

[Obed_Marsh]

People making far less money maintain their professionalism. I see little reason to bend over backwards making excuses for someone bad mouthing our team and players.

[Bloo]

People making far less money maintain their professionalism. I see little reason to bend over backwards making excuses for someone bad mouthing my team and players.

I wan't defending. I was merely hypothesizing why he would do it.

[mitlen]

I wan't defending. I was merely hypothesizing why he would do it.

He was doing it (IMHO) because he is an immature dikweed.   

[Bloo]

He was doing it (IMHO) because he is an immature dikweed.   

That could be it too. I don't know the guy personally so I'm not going to unfairly judge him.

[mitlen]

That could be it too. I don't know the guy personally so I'm not going to unfairly judge him.

I will.        I hear ya Bloo but I'd rather have Werth in a foxhole than Morgan.