Author Topic: Nationals vs Reds, Game 1 (Read 15891 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #350 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:47:50 pm »

yuck, Davey just referenced moving Morse back to LF.

Said he will probably even stick him out there later this year (maybe when Marrero comes up?)

imref · « **Reply #351 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:48:43 pm »

if they Mets lose, we're tied for 3rd again.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #352 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:49:35 pm »

Quote from: imref on August 16, 2011, 09:48:43 pm

if they Mets lose, we're tied for 3rd again.

tomterp · « **Reply #353 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:50:29 pm »

Hah, Johnson reveals that Zimmerman called his homer.

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #354 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:52:10 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on August 16, 2011, 09:47:50 pm

yuck, Davey just referenced moving Morse back to LF.

Said he will probably even stick him out there later this year (maybe when Marrero comes up?)

It's the classic case of the GM obsessed with proving his signings were good. They've convinced themselves that LaRoche is God's gift to 1B defense. Morse is actually a talented infielder. LaRoche doesn't seem to have any use anywhere else on the field. He should be pumped and dumped for whatever we can get.

NFA Brian · « **Reply #355 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:54:44 pm »

I believe that Morse to LF is more a function of giving Marrero time at 1B in September

(your miles may vary)

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #356 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:55:18 pm »

NFA Brian in a GDT... wow. nice.

Rasta · « **Reply #357 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:00:18 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on August 16, 2011, 09:54:44 pm

I believe that Morse to LF is more a function of giving Marrero time at 1B in September

(your miles may vary)

Agreed

Marrero deserves the call up. He's having a very solid year in Syracuse and has been really hot the past two weeks posting on OPS of 1.190.

His stats are very similar to Yonder Alonso's AAA stats this year. Maybe he lights it up and is part of a package in the offseason.

imref · « **Reply #358 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:01:15 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on August 16, 2011, 09:50:29 pm

Hah, Johnson reveals that Zimmerman called his homer.

awesome.

Kentucky_National · « **Reply #359 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:06:00 pm »

Great win tonight.

spidernat · « **Reply #360 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:07:12 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on August 16, 2011, 09:35:16 pm

Now we know why Ryan had the homer, he's "feeding off of Morse", per Debbi.

Are you serious? I went out to walk my dogs and missed the post game.

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #361 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:15:24 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on August 16, 2011, 09:54:44 pm

I believe that Morse to LF is more a function of giving Marrero time at 1B in September

(your miles may vary)

It makes sense in September in some games to allow them to get a look at Marrero while keeping Morse in the lineup. The issue is next year when LaRoche is back. The "brain trust" seems wedded to the idea of making him the 1Bman again in a way that doesn't signal a desire to try and move him. And there are real question marks around what kind of player LaRoche will be. It's great to want to see what he can do, but this is a pattern where they are more likely to invest an inordinate amount of time in the hopes he'll return to form. Morse has found a natural home at 1B, which they would have known last season had they traded Dunn when they should have. I'd like to see if they are willing to stick with Morse in LF threw some rough spots or have a short leash and have double switched to death.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #362 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:21:49 pm »

I'd be willing to pay LaRoche the amount hes getting so he can be a backup to Fielder/Pujols!!!

hey, its not my money right!!

NFA Brian · « **Reply #363 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:22:21 pm »

LaRoche is under contract for 2012 and right now has no trade value. Teams aren't going to trade for a guy coming off shoulder surgery. I imagine the Nationals are considering LaRoche as an option at 1B to see what they have, knowing they can (a) find a solid defensive 1B in LaRoche and a solid bat in LF in Morse; (b) prove to another team that LaRoche is healthy and deal him a month or so into the season; (c) LaRoche isn't back and they can then slide Morse back to 1B

imref · « **Reply #364 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:24:02 pm »

Zimm's shot.

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_08_16_cinmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=recap&c_id=was#

blue911 · « **Reply #365 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:27:42 pm »

If the Lerners weren't so cheap,they'd pay somebody to whack LaRoche

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #366 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:32:46 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on August 16, 2011, 10:22:21 pm

LaRoche is under contract for 2012 and right now has no trade value. Teams aren't going to trade for a guy coming off shoulder surgery. I imagine the Nationals are considering LaRoche as an option at 1B to see what they have, knowing they can (a) find a solid defensive 1B in LaRoche and a solid bat in LF in Morse; (b) prove to another team that LaRoche is healthy and deal him a month or so into the season; (c) LaRoche isn't back and they can then slide Morse back to 1B

That's what I would hope they would do. My fear is they have LaRoche entrenched at 1B for way too long regardless of performance. At some point, if the pump and dump doesn't yield any offers, you hope they are willing to simply deal with the player as an expensive role player. But that hasn't been the history. And that's what scares me.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #367 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:55:18 pm »

how long have then been doing the Drewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww chant for Storen?

Galah · « **Reply #368 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:20:51 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on August 16, 2011, 10:55:18 pm

how long have then been doing the Drewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww chant for Storen?

Not that long, I missed most of last home stand but now even the in park announcer is calling him Dreeeeewwwwww

nats2playoffs · « **Reply #369 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:20:54 pm »

ATTENDANCE at this match: 23,888

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #370 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:22:19 pm »

Quote from: Galah on August 16, 2011, 11:20:51 pm

Not that long, I missed most of last home stand but now even the in park announcer is calling him Dreeeeewwwwww

That's awesome. If/when it catches on, it will be really cool thing.

nats2playoffs · « **Reply #371 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:26:37 pm »

Quote from: shoeshineboy on August 16, 2011, 10:15:24 pm

It makes sense in September in some games to allow them to get a look at Marrero while keeping Morse in the lineup. The issue is next year when LaRoche is back. The "brain trust" seems wedded to the idea of making him the 1Bman again in a way that doesn't signal a desire to try and move him. And there are real question marks around what kind of player LaRoche will be. It's great to want to see what he can do, but this is a pattern where they are more likely to invest an inordinate amount of time in the hopes he'll return to form. Morse has found a natural home at 1B, which they would have known last season had they traded Dunn when they should have. I'd like to see if they are willing to stick with Morse in LF threw some rough spots or have a short leash and have double switched to death.

I'm just as concerned with the idea that Morse has a chronically bad knee. I think there's less stress on it at 1B than all the running in the outfield. I'd rather see him stick with 1B.

Since we've now heard the excuse that LaRoche "always starts slow", let him start slow for some other losing team. I want to win, not be 10 games under 500 to pamper some overpaid slow starter.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #372 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:27:04 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on August 16, 2011, 10:27:42 pm

If the Lerners weren't so cheap,they'd pay somebody to whack LaRoche

They should hire someone to dig up dirt on him.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #373 on:** August 17, 2011, 06:46:23 am »

Quote from: nats2playoffs on August 16, 2011, 11:26:37 pm

I'm just as concerned with the idea that Morse has a chronically bad knee. I think there's less stress on it at 1B than all the running in the outfield. I'd rather see him stick with 1B.

Since we've now heard the excuse that LaRoche "always starts slow", let him start slow for some other losing team. I want to win, not be 10 games under 500 to pamper some overpaid slow starter.

This. LaRoche for DFA! LaRoche/LaRuche 2012 (for pres/VP of a loony bin)!

OldChelsea · « **Reply #374 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:28:50 am »

Comparative dates on which the Nationals notched their 58th win, each season:

2005 - 4th August (108th match of season)
2011 - 16th August (120th match)
2007 - 23rd August (128th match)
2006 - 2nd September (135th match)
2010 - 4th September (136th match)
2008 - 16th September (151st match)
2009 - 3rd October (161st match)

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Not a bad group in the house last night for a non-promo Tuesday (announced attendance 23,888 - looked about right).