Author Topic: 2012 free agency (Read 44363 times)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #950 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:13:43 pm »

Quote from: Vega on October 25, 2011, 11:08:48 pm

If we don't get Wilson, Darvish, or Oswalt, I think we should look in to signing Dontrelle Willis.

SRSLY?

Vega · « **Reply #951 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:20:50 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on October 25, 2011, 11:13:43 pm

SRSLY?

If we miss out on the guys I mentioned, certainly. I'd rather have Dontrelle on an inexpensive short-term deal than Edwin Jackson on an overpriced four-plus year deal.

spidernat · « **Reply #952 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:35:37 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on October 25, 2011, 11:13:43 pm

SRSLY?

That was my reaction too.

Squab · « **Reply #953 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:41:38 pm »

At that point why not just use Detwiler/Peacock/Milone?

Vega · « **Reply #954 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:48:12 pm »

Quote from: Squab on October 25, 2011, 11:41:38 pm

At that point why not just use Detwiler/Peacock/Milone?

Probably a better course to take. I'm inclined to say that Dontrelle will end up on one of the California teams anyway. I think he makes sense for Oakland.

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #955 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:52:07 pm »

Failing to secure his #1 starter and CF/Leadoff white whales? Sounds like the typical Rizzo off-season.

Vega · « **Reply #956 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:54:19 pm »

I'm making all of my offseason thoughts and predictions under the assumption that Lannan gets dealt. I see him on Minnesota next year much more easily than I do the Nats.

houston-nat · « **Reply #957 on:** October 25, 2011, 11:56:35 pm »

Quote from: Obed_Marsh on October 25, 2011, 11:52:07 pm

Failing to secure his #1 starter and CF/Leadoff white whales? Sounds like the typical Rizzo off-season.

Hey, the typical Rizzo off-season results in 10 more wins.

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #958 on:** October 26, 2011, 12:01:48 am »

Quote from: houston-nat on October 25, 2011, 11:56:35 pm

Hey, the typical Rizzo off-season results in 10 more wins.

The typical Rizzo off-season results in a losing season. Once you fail, you do not quibble over a few percentage points if it does not change the grade.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #959 on:** October 26, 2011, 12:47:15 am »

Let's not think about Plan B's or C's until we actually know what the market will be like. Hopefully we plan on acquiring a top tier starting pitcher, one of the mashing first basemen, a lead off guy, and/or a center fielder.

Vega · « **Reply #960 on:** October 26, 2011, 01:13:23 am »

If we sign Reyes, which member of Desminosa get benched/dealt?

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #961 on:** October 26, 2011, 01:25:14 am »

Desi.

BrandonK · « **Reply #962 on:** October 26, 2011, 03:43:11 am »

I saw another article that suggested the posting fee won't be over 30 million. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/agents-predict-darvish-posting-fee-contract.html#disqus_thread

Comment-ors also noted that the exchange rate of USD to Yen has gone down significantly. 6 Billion Yen was 51 Mil. Would be 74 or so now... Who knows. I think he ends up staying.

Would like to know more about Oswalt's back injuries too, but he seems like the best bet. Doubt the Phillies would offer arbitration, since he would probably accept it (and it'd be over 16 million).

Maybe I'm overvaluing Lannan, but shouldn't he net more than Span in a trade? Span's concussion history is risky, but when(if) healthy, he'd fill the hole perfectly.

Kevrock · « **Reply #963 on:** October 26, 2011, 06:19:53 am »

Quote from: Obed_Marsh on October 26, 2011, 12:01:48 am

The typical Rizzo off-season results in a losing season. Once you fail, you do not quibble over a few percentage points if it does not change the grade.

Yeah, a whole game under .500. Worst to first or fire Rizzo, eh?

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #964 on:** October 26, 2011, 06:37:57 am »

Quote from: Obed_Marsh on October 26, 2011, 12:01:48 am

The typical Rizzo off-season results in a losing season. Once you fail, you do not quibble over a few percentage points if it does not change the grade.

If you're not first, you're last.
-Ricky Bobby

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #965 on:** October 26, 2011, 06:40:19 am »

Quote from: Vega on October 26, 2011, 01:13:23 am

If we sign Reyes, which member of Desminosa get benched/dealt?

What about Kelly Johnson if Desmond is moved in a trade for a CF? Move Espinosa to SS, start Johnson at 2B and try to work in Lombo slowly to see if he can handle MLB pitching.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #966 on:** October 26, 2011, 08:02:12 am »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on October 26, 2011, 06:40:19 am

What about Kelly Johnson if Desmond is moved in a trade for a CF? Move Espinosa to SS, start Johnson at 2B and try to work in Lombo slowly to see if he can handle MLB pitching.

People didn't like the strikeouts last year. If the Nats add Kelly Johnson and LaRoche is back healthy the Nats could set the record.

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #967 on:** October 26, 2011, 09:32:52 am »

Quote from: Kevrock on October 26, 2011, 06:19:53 am

Worst to first or fire Rizzo, eh?

Falsely attributing bullcrap must be easier for you than acknowledging other points of view.

7 years without a winning season is an indication of a dysfunctional organization.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #968 on:** October 26, 2011, 09:40:17 am »

Quote from: Obed_Marsh on October 26, 2011, 09:32:52 am

Falsely attributing bullcrap must be easier for you than acknowledging other points of view.

The bread and butter of the SSS.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #969 on:** October 26, 2011, 10:13:33 am »

Quote from: Vega on October 25, 2011, 11:08:48 pm

If we don't get Wilson, Darvish, or Oswalt, I think we should look in to signing Dontrelle Willis.

stick to lego stories kid

Kevrock · « **Reply #970 on:** October 26, 2011, 10:28:01 am »

Quote from: Obed_Marsh on October 26, 2011, 09:32:52 am

Back at you, buddy.

CatsEye · « **Reply #971 on:** October 26, 2011, 11:05:41 am »

Quote from: Squab on October 25, 2011, 11:41:38 pm

At that point why not just use Detwiler/Peacock/Milone?

That sounds likes z winning plan to me.......It would be perfect set-up

Quote from: Vega on October 25, 2011, 11:54:19 pm

I'm making all of my offseason thoughts and predictions under the assumption that Lannan gets dealt. I see him on Minnesota next year much more easily than I do the Nats.

When did everyone decide that it was time to trade Lannan?

Slateman · « **Reply #972 on:** October 26, 2011, 11:10:09 am »

Like, Dontrelle Willis who hasn't had a WHIP under 1.5 since 2006?

DO NOT WANT

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #973 on:** October 26, 2011, 11:11:43 am »

Quote from: CatsEye on October 26, 2011, 11:05:41 am

When did everyone decide that it was time to trade Lannan?

Lego Lord Vega speaks for us all. The soothing orange font is quite persuasive.

Squab · « **Reply #974 on:** October 26, 2011, 11:13:56 am »

Quote

Maybe I'm overvaluing Lannan, but shouldn't he net more than Span in a trade? Span's concussion history is risky, but when(if) healthy, he'd fill the hole perfectly.

Well they wouldn't give him up for Clippard, they were dead set on Storen/Lombo during the season. I mean looking at their starting pitching, Lannan would be really good for them but they think rather highly of Span. I'd be willing to give up Lannan and another prospect for him, but no way Clip or Storen.