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Offline Sharp

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #225 on: May 31, 2011, 08:05:26 pm »
Hahahahaha WTF at that call

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #226 on: May 31, 2011, 08:05:37 pm »
fantastic play by Desmond. Wasn't out at 2nd though

Offline The Chief

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #227 on: May 31, 2011, 08:05:47 pm »
Snicker, area play.  I'm reminded of that bad 1B call against Werth.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #228 on: May 31, 2011, 08:06:33 pm »
fantastic play by Desmond. Wasn't out at 2nd though
He scraped the bag it looks like

Offline Kevrock

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #229 on: May 31, 2011, 08:06:57 pm »
He was barely off the bag. MLB umps let MIs cheat on double plays all the time for some reason, call could have gone either way.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #230 on: May 31, 2011, 08:07:28 pm »
Cardinals reference.

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #231 on: May 31, 2011, 08:08:35 pm »
The Phillies are cake

Offline The Chief

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #232 on: May 31, 2011, 08:09:14 pm »
He was barely off the bag. MLB umps let MIs cheat on double plays all the time for some reason, call could have gone either way.

If I had to guess, I'd wager it originally stems from wanting to avoid nasty injuries.

Offline TylerDC

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #233 on: May 31, 2011, 08:09:41 pm »
Good work by Marquis. We're... winning!

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #234 on: May 31, 2011, 08:10:08 pm »
If Bixler leads off with a hit Lee might get released

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #235 on: May 31, 2011, 08:10:31 pm »
I know your position on the matter.  You're definitely the most reasonable and easy-to-talk-to person on this board when it comes to this kind of stuff, which is impressive considering how much of a jerk the rest of us can be :lol:

I believe that there is so much sample variation in the game of baseball that it's just short of impossible to ever say with certainty that it is or isn't a factor.  Add to that the number of different players involved and the potential for adjustment, and things become even more muddled.

Basically, it just rubs me the wrong way when people act like they're 100% certain of something that they have no possible way of being 100% certain of, so I had to say something ;)  I do think hammonds is quoting a bogus stat in this specific case, though :P

Yeah I understand, and I actually enjoy arguing with you (versus a ton of other people on this board) because although you're not an advanced stats guy, you've kinda come to understand/respect it while still being... suspicious isn't the right word, but inquisitive and not blindly following advanced statistics.

In this case, I think the variation points to that exact thing - there are so many little details, that ultimately the runner on 3rd may have some significance, but it has as much as whether the batter feels hungry or tired or whatever - you get what I'm saying?

Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #236 on: May 31, 2011, 08:12:12 pm »
Pitch count ... again ... and again ... and again

Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #237 on: May 31, 2011, 08:12:38 pm »
Why don't you guys get a room.
Yeah I understand, and I actually enjoy arguing with you (versus a ton of other people on this board) because although you're not an advanced stats guy, you've kinda come to understand/respect it while still being... suspicious isn't the right word, but inquisitive and not blindly following advanced statistics.

In this case, I think the variation points to that exact thing - there are so many little details, that ultimately the runner on 3rd may have some significance, but it has as much as whether the batter feels hungry or tired or whatever - you get what I'm saying?

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #238 on: May 31, 2011, 08:12:47 pm »
Pitch count ... again ... and again ... and again
switch back to beer

Offline The Chief

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #239 on: May 31, 2011, 08:12:52 pm »
In this case, I think the variation points to that exact thing - there are so many little details, that ultimately the runner on 3rd may have some significance, but it has as much as whether the batter feels hungry or tired or whatever - you get what I'm saying?

Yep.  I like to pretend that it's because of things the catchers are saying to the batters, ala Major Leagues.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #240 on: May 31, 2011, 08:12:58 pm »
The Phillies are cake
So the Phillies are a lie?

Offline TylerDC

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #241 on: May 31, 2011, 08:14:06 pm »
So the Phillies are a lie?

This game has been a triumph.

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #242 on: May 31, 2011, 08:15:01 pm »
We'd have to go up way more than 5-0 for me to believe this game is in the bag.  Didn't we blow a 10-2 lead against the Phils a couple years ago?

Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #243 on: May 31, 2011, 08:15:31 pm »
switch back to beer

No crap.   These shots are killin' me.

Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #244 on: May 31, 2011, 08:16:07 pm »
Yep. The Phillies get better while the Nats fade.
We'd have to go up way more than 5-0 for me to believe this game is in the bag.  Didn't we blow a 10-2 lead against the Phils a couple years ago?

Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #245 on: May 31, 2011, 08:18:47 pm »
We'd have to go up way more than 5-0 for me to believe this game is in the bag.  Didn't we blow a 10-2 lead against the Phils a couple years ago?
Was that the Ibanez Granny off Hanrahan in Philly?

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #246 on: May 31, 2011, 08:20:34 pm »
and so it begins

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #247 on: May 31, 2011, 08:20:37 pm »
Ok, it's only 1.

Right?

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #248 on: May 31, 2011, 08:20:38 pm »
Domonic Brown sucks. Awful pitch Marquis

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #249 on: May 31, 2011, 08:20:46 pm »
Was that the Ibanez Granny off Hanrahan in Philly?

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