Author Topic: Spring Training Game Threads (2010) (Read 56291 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1400 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:14:02 pm »

Olson is horrid. Same Olsen as last year. No difference. High 80s fastball that is so hittable.

He is cooked.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1401 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:15:46 pm »

8 hits and 3 runs given up in 4 innings for Olsen. Sucks.

I'd like to thank Dunn for playing a good 1B today too.

The announcers were talking like he had never played 1B in his life before tonight's game. What a joke. He should be better than that by now.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1402 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:23:04 pm »

Pudge-Mench-Bernadina-AlGo with 4 straight singles.

3-1 DET after 4.5 innings

Nathan · « **Reply #1403 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:23:34 pm »

Damn, DP.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1404 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:31:57 pm »

I love how ASSTROLL still continues to actively root against the Nationals.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1405 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:34:09 pm »

Impressive performance by Scott

4.1 IP 12 H 6 ER 2 HR 1 BB 1 K

Stunning, really. No one saw that crap coming.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1406 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:40:20 pm »

Olsen's updated ST numbers:

9.1 IP 23 H 10 ER 3 HR 1 BB 2 K (9.64 ERA, 2.57 WHIP, 1.93 K/9)

Does he get released tonight or will they wait until tomorrow?

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #1407 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:41:05 pm »

Release him and the fat guy and I won't complain about the Nats giving Guzman a starting job because of money.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1408 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:41:49 pm »

Olsen pitched fine, but not great. Might be working on the strike zone or getting more contact.

ASSCLOWN should be banned for 24hrs.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1409 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:43:07 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on March 23, 2010, 07:41:49 pm

Olsen pitched fine, but not great. Might be working on the strike zone or getting more contact.

ASSCLOWN should be banned for 24hrs.

Technically, it should be for life.

houston-nat · « **Reply #1410 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:43:09 pm »

12 hits and 13 outs is not "fine" pitching. Olsen is unready and, as somebody (I forget who) suggested, would be well-off spending a few weeks in extended spring training, working on arm strength, before rehabbing in the minor leagues.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1411 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:43:43 pm »

The first page or so of this thread is made of win.

Olsen is made of suck. Patterson his ass.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1412 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:44:23 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on March 23, 2010, 07:43:09 pm

12 hits and 13 outs is not "fine" pitching. Olsen is unready and, as somebody (I forget who) suggested, would be well-off spending a few weeks in extended spring training, working on arm strength, before rehabbing in the minor leagues.

A reasonable take. Cutting him from the team, hyperexaggeration,etc. is not.

The Chief · « **Reply #1413 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:47:02 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on March 23, 2010, 07:43:09 pm

12 hits and 13 outs is not "fine" pitching. Olsen is unready and, as somebody (I forget who) suggested, would be well-off spending a few weeks in extended spring training, working on arm strength, before rehabbing in the minor leagues.

I knew someone would post a middle-of-the-road option for me to agree with eventually

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1414 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:48:34 pm »

Quote from: ASSCLOWN on March 23, 2010, 06:09:21 pm

J.D. Martin got a raw job.

Do you mean a raw deal? What you said is

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1415 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:51:44 pm »

Quote from: Dunnkey on March 23, 2010, 07:47:02 pm

I knew someone would post a middle-of-the-road option for me to agree with eventually

No amount of rehabbing and working on arm strength is going to turn Scott Olsen into a Major League pitcher. He's done. Stick a fork in him.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1416 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:53:10 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on March 23, 2010, 07:48:34 pm

Do you mean a raw deal? What you said is

raw deal, raw job. same thing. He didn't get a fair chance to win a spot.

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #1417 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:53:19 pm »

Nationals Opening day roster:
Lannan
Marquis
Mock
Livan
Olsen

Batista and Walker in the bullpen. Guzman as Starting SS and Willy Taveras as a platoon partner for Willie Harris in RF. Hello 3rd straight 100+ loss season. The team will join prestigious company. Maybe we can start prepping now for the 2011 draft.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1418 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:55:17 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on March 23, 2010, 07:44:23 pm

A reasonable take. Cutting him from the team, hyperexaggeration,etc. is not.

Uh, wanting to cut him because he has chronic dead-arm is not unreasonable, shine boy.

THIS is unreasonable:

Quote from: GMUNat on March 23, 2010, 07:53:19 pm

Nationals Opening day roster:
Lannan
Marquis
Mock
Livan
Olsen

Batista and Walker in the bullpen. Guzman as Starting SS and Willy Taveras as a platoon partner for Willie Harris in RF. Hello 3rd straight 100+ loss season. The team will join prestigious company. Maybe we can start prepping now for the 2011 draft.

Just stupid, unfounded hyperbole.

The Chief · « **Reply #1419 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:55:31 pm »

Quote from: GMUNat on March 23, 2010, 07:53:19 pm

blah blah blah gloom and doom

you and ASSCLOWN should get a room.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1420 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:56:34 pm »

Quote from: Dunnkey on March 23, 2010, 07:55:31 pm

you and ASSCLOWN should get a room.

No one say ANYTHING about raw jobs.

tomterp · « **Reply #1421 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:58:17 pm »

Quote from: ASSCLOWN on March 23, 2010, 07:51:44 pm

No amount of rehabbing and working on arm strength is going to turn Scott Olsen into a Major League pitcher. He's done. Stick a fork in him.

That may prove to be true, but don't you think it's a bit early to make that call?

Sounds like he hit a wall with his stuff. Despite 6 hits through 3, as I posted 3 of those were defensive blunders that were no fault of Olsen's, so he was adequate through 3 innings. I agree with the thought that he needs a rehab assignment to build some strength and see if he can get it back. He's clearly not ready.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1422 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:06:43 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on March 23, 2010, 07:58:17 pm

That may prove to be true, but don't you think it's a bit early to make that call?

Sounds like he hit a wall with his stuff. Despite 6 hits through 3, as I posted 3 of those were defensive blunders that were no fault of Olsen's, so he was adequate through 3 innings. I agree with the thought that he needs a rehab assignment to build some strength and see if he can get it back. He's clearly not ready.

We should leave it to our team's coaching and medical staff, but you have to wonder if they're just banging their head against a wall with this guy. Look at his history:

-Pitches fairly well in 2006. One of the better rookies in the NL.
-Has dead-arm the next year and pitches terrible
-Pitches reasonably well in 2008. Not quite a return to form as his velocity is down and his numbers aren't as good as '06.
-Has even worse dead-arm in 2009 with the Nats, gets shelled and needs to be quickly removed from the rotation.

If the pattern continues, he's going to be slightly below average at best. If the recent trajectory continues, he'll be awful. If he miraculously gets fully healed up and lives up to the promise of his rookie season, he could be above average, but what are the odds of that?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1423 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:09:02 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on March 23, 2010, 07:58:17 pm

That may prove to be true, but don't you think it's a bit early to make that call?

No. I have seen more than enough last year and this year to make that determination.

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on March 23, 2010, 08:06:43 pm

If he miraculously gets fully healed up and lives up to the promise of his rookie season, he could be above average, but what are the odds of that?

That's easy. Not a chance in hell.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1424 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:17:41 pm »

Just a guess - barring a trade (Andy Sonnanstine?), it is down to Livo, Stammen, and Martin after tonight. Olsen is not JP'd, but he is headed to extended spring.