Author Topic: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing (Read 116121 times)

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1750 on:** January 26, 2010, 10:25:47 pm »

Quote from: ASSCLOWN on January 26, 2010, 09:53:41 pm

don't knock Stammen. i thought you liked him, knorr?

He's a mixed bag and could be good but I do not trust him.

Good:

-life on his fastball
-very good peripherals (solid control/ability to keep the ball in the park)

Bad:

-substantially worse the longer a game lasts (no Stammen-a, har har

)
-secondary pitches are unimpressive
-gets hit hard (LD's + HR's)

He really seems like he's suited to be a reliever. I'd say the more likely "best case" scenario is that he ends up like another Dave Bush.

If you like him so friggin much then why do you want us to sign another SP?

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #1751 on:** January 26, 2010, 10:28:50 pm »

Quote from: JMadIV on January 26, 2010, 10:25:37 pm

fixed.

The truth hurts

JMW IV · « **Reply #1752 on:** January 26, 2010, 10:35:19 pm »

don't see any reason why Hudson signs with the Nats when he could sign with the Rays. i don't even think overpaying him would convince him.

it's not like he's poor and hurting for money, and looking for one last big payday.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1753 on:** January 26, 2010, 10:57:26 pm »

Quote from: JMadIV on January 26, 2010, 10:35:19 pm

don't see any reason why Hudson signs with the Nats when he could sign with the Rays. i don't even think overpaying him would convince him.

it's not like he's poor and hurting for money, and looking for one last big payday.

I see some reasons. He's hit better while in the NL, so he might be more comfortable against NL pitching. He'll play on a better playing surface in DC (he might be sick of the turf after Toronto), which is a little more significant for a guy in his 30's. Didn't he say he has a rapport with Zimmerman? And the Rays are in a better position than the Nats, but the AL East is gonna be TOUGH over the next few years. Even the Orioles are getting much better.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1754 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:03:10 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on January 26, 2010, 10:57:26 pm

Didn't he say he has a rapport with Zimmerman?

He has several good pals on the team. Never overlook that.

houston-nat · « **Reply #1755 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:45:15 pm »

Quote from: Dunnkey on January 26, 2010, 09:28:55 pm

wouldn't it be "assclowned the freak out" now? Or should we just say he got butt-cised?

and anyway everyone here assclowns out once in a while.

Except me.
<<<< I'm all ass

BTW, I was off the forum for 3 hours, came back and there were 6 new pages to this thread. I thought we'd signed somebody or something. Imagine my disappointment...

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #1756 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:53:05 pm »

No signing. Just the boredom wars.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1757 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:54:36 pm »

Tomorrow's debates is Boston Celtics vs Detroit Red Wings - which roster is more talented.

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #1758 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:57:35 pm »

They both suck. New topic?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1759 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:59:09 pm »

The Red Wings are old and crappy and no one cares about the NBA.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1760 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:01:08 am »

OMFG I meant it was absurd to debate Cleveland vs Nats because they play in different leagues.

houston-nat · « **Reply #1761 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:02:58 am »

Quote from: PANatsFan on January 27, 2010, 12:01:08 am

OMFG I meant it was absurd to debate Cleveland vs Nats because they play in different leagues.

Nats, duh! Adam Dunn could score a touchdown on LeBron

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1762 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:06:26 am »

Quote from: houston-nat on January 27, 2010, 12:02:58 am

Nats, duh! Adam Dunn could score a touchdown on LeBron

He went to Rice, he must be smart.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1763 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:19:59 am »

Quote

Jon Garland, San Diego Padres agree to one-year, $5.3 million contract

that's it?! wtf!

the nats could have given him a deal similar to what they gave marquis

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1764 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:23:43 am »

That's it.

2010 is OVER.

Here's to hoping Strasburg comes along well and puts us in position next year.

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #1765 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:25:18 am »

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1766 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:28:56 am »

I'll do it!

Seriously, please explain to me how anyone could reasonably expect this team not to suck balls again.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #1767 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:31:23 am »

What do you consider "suck balls" to be?

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1768 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:34:22 am »

If the team does not win at least 73 games (arbitrary number but I'm comparing to the ragtag 2007 bunch) and finish at least fourth, I consider them suck-balls.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #1769 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:37:26 am »

That's a 14 game improvement. That's generally considered a big step forward for any team. I wouldn't be satisfied with a 73 win season, but it certainly, at least from where I'm sitting right now, would be much better than where we've been. That being said, I honestly, and I have a naturally optimistic view on most things, but I do honestly think a 20 game improvement is possible for this team...and that still would leave us under .500.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1770 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:46:00 am »

Quote from: ASSCLOWN on January 27, 2010, 12:19:59 am

that's it?! wtf!

the nats could have given him a deal similar to what they gave marquis

He wanted to be on the west coast. Money isn't everything to everyone.

We just had this conversation about Grant Desme.

JMW IV · « **Reply #1771 on:** January 27, 2010, 01:23:07 am »

Quote from: ASSCLOWN on January 27, 2010, 12:19:59 am

that's it?! wtf!

the nats could have given him a deal similar to what they gave marquis

I agree. no reason we could not have done that. hell we could have gone another year.

Nathan · « **Reply #1772 on:** January 27, 2010, 01:31:53 am »

We have a completely new bullpen from the start of last year, a new front end type starter, and the hope that Olsen comes back from his injury to his usual form.

Some MI help would be nice, and another starter would be welcome, but this team should be much better than last year.

Also a plus is not just what we added, but what we subtracted. Hanrahan, Milledge, Kearns, and Acta being notable.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1773 on:** January 27, 2010, 01:34:08 am »

Quote from: JMadIV on January 27, 2010, 01:23:07 am

I agree. no reason we could not have done that. hell we could have gone another year.

That's a very low offer. No way of knowing if the Nats made an offer or how much it would be. Seems he wanted to go to SD.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1774 on:** January 27, 2010, 02:26:39 am »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on January 27, 2010, 12:37:26 am

That's a 14 game improvement. That's generally considered a big step forward for any team. I wouldn't be satisfied with a 73 win season, but it certainly, at least from where I'm sitting right now, would be much better than where we've been. That being said, I honestly, and I have a naturally optimistic view on most things, but I do honestly think a 20 game improvement is possible for this team...and that still would leave us under .500.

20 games would be fantastic, but I'm not gonna bet on it. I really think they'll only win 65-70 this year.

The problem that I think a lot of people are overlooking is health. This team was really lucky last year with their position players - the core was able to stay healthy by and large. If you lose Z, Dunn, or Hammer for two months, that's gonna kill this offense. I doubt the team will be so lucky this year. I'm kind of expecting bad luck to strike, or at least "normal" luck.