Author Topic: The Bryce Harper Watch  (Read 219595 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline JMUalumni

  • Posts: 7787
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2550 on: April 18, 2012, 02:39:00 pm »
I don't think it is an issue of worrying at this point, more of an observation that he is further away from being ready to be called up than some people believe he is.  I'd say if he is still exhibiting the same problems in two years or so, then it becomes a bit more worrisome.  Still early in the season though, plenty of time for him to adjust.  August/September is seeming more realistic, though, than a June or July callup.

Offline Obed_Marsh

  • Posts: 7593
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2551 on: April 18, 2012, 02:45:02 pm »
I am fairly content to let Harper learn to hit lefties in the minors. Seems to me with his track record that shouldn't take too long if they are clear and direct in terms of what he needs to do.

Offline JMUalumni

  • Posts: 7787
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2552 on: April 18, 2012, 02:48:10 pm »
I am fairly content to let Harper learn to hit lefties in the minors. Seems to me with his track record that shouldn't take too long if they are clear and direct in terms of what he needs to do.

Agreed.  They need to get Harper's development right the first go around.  They are not going to have the 'option' of sending him back down if he struggles at the big league level like the Angels did with Trout.

Offline UMDNats

  • Posts: 18070
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2553 on: April 18, 2012, 02:48:22 pm »
I don't think it is an issue of worrying at this point, more of an observation that he is further away from being ready to be called up than some people believe he is.  I'd say if he is still exhibiting the same problems in two years or so, then it becomes a bit more worrisome.  Still early in the season though, plenty of time for him to adjust.  August/September is seeming more realistic, though, than a June or July callup.

Definitely. I think June may be a little too early for him, though there could be pressure if the offense is struggling and his overall line is decent enough to force the media to ask some questions. Late July/early August could be best.

Offline HalfSmokes

  • Posts: 21925
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2554 on: April 18, 2012, 02:50:52 pm »
someone on the radio (kurkjian maybe?) had the asinine idea of bring him up soon and platooning him (because the best was to learn to hit lefties is by not facing them :shrug:)

Offline Tokeydog

  • Posts: 1238
  • I like beer!
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2555 on: April 18, 2012, 02:54:11 pm »
I was very much in the camp of bringing him up immediately, but his struggles with lefties is clear and something he needs to work on down in the minors.  Grant it the Nats have only seen two left handed starters so far this year...

Offline Tyler Durden

  • Posts: 7970
  • Leprechaun
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2556 on: April 18, 2012, 10:09:40 pm »
someone on the radio (kurkjian maybe?) had the asinine idea of bring him up soon and platooning him (because the best was to learn to hit lefties is by not facing them :shrug:)

This would be good for the 2012 Nats but bad for Harper and the Nats of 2013 and beyond. 

This team could win 85-90 games this year but they could be monsters in 2013 if Stras stays healthy and Harper develops properly. 

Online zimm_da_kid

  • Posts: 8132
  • The one true ace
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2557 on: April 18, 2012, 10:31:41 pm »
This would be good for the 2012 Nats but bad for Harper and the Nats of 2013 and beyond. 

This team could win 85-90 games this year but they could be monsters in 2013 if Stras stays healthy and Harper develops properly. 

and we get that white whale and another SP

Online imref

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 47390
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2558 on: April 18, 2012, 10:35:10 pm »
anyone know if he's played any LF so far?

Offline HalfSmokes

  • Posts: 21925
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2559 on: April 19, 2012, 10:16:56 am »
and we get that white whale and another SP

or just a couple more SP and no whale

Offline NatsDad14

  • Posts: 5241
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2560 on: April 19, 2012, 10:26:51 am »
Harper's splits at this very early stage in the season (i.e. SSS):

vs RHP:  .300/.323/.467 (20 PA)
vs LHP:  .158/.200/.211 (31 PA)

Also 3 fielding errors through 12 games.

How does he have significantly more PA against lefties?

Offline Lintyfresh85

  • Posts: 35152
  • World Champions!!!
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2561 on: April 19, 2012, 10:27:07 am »
or just a couple more SP and no whale

10 man rotation of all #1's... and Gio, who Rizzo called a #2 last night. :?

Offline JMUalumni

  • Posts: 7787
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2562 on: April 19, 2012, 10:42:48 am »
How does he have significantly more PA against lefties?

The RHP and LHP are flipped

Offline sportsfan882

  • Posts: 93631
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2563 on: April 20, 2012, 07:40:41 pm »
Quote
@ChiefsRadio: Bryce Harper's gunned down a runner at home DESPITE a bobble. Whoa.

He threw out Adam Loewen out at home. Harper also drew a walk in the first.

Offline zoom

  • Posts: 946
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2564 on: April 21, 2012, 10:45:36 am »
By Kevin Goldstein From ESPN.com

I am not a fantasy guy, but here is Goldstein's FANTASY list (see below).  Harper tumbled from 2 to 12 and Peacock rocketed up to 9.

----------------------------

Note: The top 12 fantasy prospects (players currently in the minor leagues) for 2012 are below. These rankings are a bit different from other prospect rankings lists; these are strictly for 2012 fantasy purposes. So not only do talent and recent performance play a role in the rankings, but potential paths to the big leagues also factor in. In addition, all young players in the minors are eligible, including those in "prospect purgatory," those who have exceeded rookie status but are still young and unproven commodities.

1. Mike Trout, OF, Los Angeles Angels (Last week's rank: 1)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Salt Lake): 9-for-24 (.375), 3 RBIs, 1 SB
Season totals: .383, HR, 7 RBIs, 4 SBs in 15 games
Update: Trout hasn't slowed down one bit, and Vernon Wells hasn't exactly sped up, though he has shown some power of late. With the Angels in last place in the American League West, the Angels should start feeling additional pressure to stop worrying about contracts and focus on winning, and Trout makes them a better team right now.
What he can do: He'll be an immediate fantasy boon the moment he arrives in the big leagues, given his ability to hit for average, steal bases and pop a few home runs.

2. Travis Snider, OF, Toronto Blue Jays (Last week's rank: 5)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Las Vegas): 12-for-24 (.500), HR, 9 RBIs, SB
Season totals: .431-3-18, SB in 13 games
Update: Sure, Snider has flamed out in previous big league stints, but if the Blue Jays are going to take advantage of the slower-than-expected starts from a few of the division's powerhouses, it's time to see if Snider can outproduce Eric Thames in left field, which at this point wouldn't take much.
What he can do: Hit for average, get on base and hit for power. The problem is he's supposed to have done this two years ago, so while he deserves another opportunity, there are no guarantees.

3. Garrett Richards, SP, Angels (Last week's rank: 6)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Salt Lake): 7⅔ IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 6 K's
Season totals: 2-0, 2.14 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 21 IP, 21 K's
Update: Jerome Williams was named the Angels' fifth starter and proceeded to get pulled in the third inning after allowing five runs in his 2012 debut. Meanwhile, Richards delivered his third straight excellent start in the Pacific Coast League. A swap of the two would actually be far less painful than bringing up Trout, and the Angels do need a kick-start.
What he can do: Richards can eat up innings, rack up strikeouts and get wins once the Angels' offense gets going. He makes for a nice, cheap pickup.

4. Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B, Cleveland Indians (Last week's rank: 7)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Columbus): 12-for-32 (.375), HR, 4 RBIs
Season totals: .344-4-9 in 15 games
Update: As long as Jack Hannahan keeps hitting, Chisenhall will remain at Triple-A. But Hannahan is not going to keep hitting. The Chisenhall questions are starting to show up in the local media, and he has done wonders by taking his demotion in stride and raking.
What he can do: Chisenhall is a plus hitter who should provide a solid batting average, and his power surge gives more confidence that he can hit 15-20 home runs annually once he gets established.

5. Josh Fields, 3B, Los Angeles Dodgers (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Albuquerque): 12-for-28 (.429), 2 HR, 6 RBIs
Season totals: .327-3-9 in 15 games
Update: He's hardly a prospect anymore, but the 2004 first-round pick who spent part of last season in Japan could be called up as a result of Juan Uribe's wrist injury. He's the hot hand at Albuquerque, he can play the position, and that just might be enough.
What he can do: Fields has always had power, but the amount of swing-and-miss in his game has always prevented him from tapping into it. At 29, he's not going to get better suddenly, but he could luck into a few bombs.

6. Nolan Arenado, 3B, Colorado Rockies (Last week's rank: 3)

Last week's stats (at Double-A Tulsa): 7-for-20 (.350), HR, 4 RBIs
Season totals: .375-1-9 in 13 games
Update: Arenado isn't down three rankings slots because of anything he did wrong. Rather it's because Chris Nelson has suddenly taken hold of the big league third-base job while keeping his batting average around .300. If anything, it's a temporary glitch in the program; Arenado still should get plenty of big league at-bats in 2012.
What he can do: Arenado is a special hitter who should produce a high batting average right away, but even with Coors Field as his home, the power might take some time to manifest.

7. Brad Peacock, SP, Oakland Athletics (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Sacramento): 13 IP, 6 H, 2 R (1 ER), 4 BB, 11 K's
Season totals: 1-1, 1.42 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, 19 IP, 17 K's
Update: Tyson Ross got the call to be the team's fifth starter this week, but Peacock shouldn't be far behind. The league will catch on to Tommy Milone and Graham Godfrey as the season wears on, and Peacock has far better stuff than either of them. Meanwhile, Pacific Coast League hitters have yet to challenge him.
What he can do: Wins might be tough to come by in Oakland, but Peacock is an excellent fantasy sleeper; he can miss bats and maintain a low walk rate.

8. Welington Castillo, C, Cubs (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Iowa): 7-for-17 (.412), HR, 3 RBIs
Season totals: .387-2-6 in 10 games
Update: With the Cubs already in an early-season tailspin, the team might feel more pressure to take a look at the kids from Iowa. First baseman Anthony Rizzo and outfielder Brett Jackson are the more well-known names, but like Castillo, they might require trades to get an opportunity. That said, Geovany Soto could be a nice trade chip for the Cubs, with catching at a premium.
What he can do: Castillo has the ability not only to be an everyday catcher, but to be a good offensive one who helps in both the batting average and power categories.

9. Leonys Martin, OF, Texas Rangers (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Round Rock): 9-for-26 (.346), HR, 4 RBIs
Season totals: .362-2-7, 3 SB in 13 games
Update: The last thing the Rangers need is more offense, but they entered the year expecting Martin to play an important role before he delivered a disappointing spring. The question of when he'll come up could depend on just how long -- or how much -- the Rangers want to keep Josh Hamilton in center field. That's an injury waiting to happen.
What he can do: He won't be a big source for power, but Martin can hit, and he has the speed to steal bases. For leagues that count runs, the Rangers' lineup should help.

10. Will Middlebrooks, 3B, Boston Red Sox (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Pawtucket): 11-for-26 (.423), 4 HR, 13 RBIs
Season totals: .368-5-16, 2 SB in 14 games
Update: With Kevin Youkilis finding some life in his bat of late, Middlebrooks is stuck at Triple-A for now. Keep in mind, though, that Youkilis has missed an average of 43 games over the past three seasons, and it's clear that at some point Middlebrooks should have a chance to prove he'll be ready to take over the position in 2013.
What he can do: Scouts don't see Middlebrooks as a .300 hitter in the big leagues, but he shouldn't embarrass himself in that category, and the power they've always believed in is starting to show up in games.

11. Julio Teheran, SP, Atlanta Braves (Last week: unranked)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Gwinnett): 5⅔ IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 K's
Season totals: 2-0, 2.19 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 12⅓ IP, 12 K's.
Update: After an ugly first start, Teheran has reeled off 10⅔ scoreless innings in his past two starts, and one of the keys to his success has been a plus breaking ball, a pitch that abandoned him during last year's big league stint. With Tim Hudson returning to the Braves, there is no room at the inn for now, but keep a close watch on Jair Jurrjens' struggles.
What he can do: A scout who saw a recent Teheran start thought his stuff would play in the big leagues, and he remains one of the best long-term pitching plays around.

12. Bryce Harper, OF, Washington Nationals (Last week's rank: 2)

Last week's stats (at Triple-A Syracuse): 7-for-29 (.241), 0 RBIs
Season totals: .232-1-5, SB in 14 games.
Update: Michael Morse's injury created a wide-open door for Harper to step through, but he's just not hitting enough to make Washington's decision an easy one. The invitation should still be there once his bat gets going.
What he can do: Harper should hit home runs immediately, while stealing what might be a surprising amount of bases. But don't expect much in the batting average department right away.

Falling out of the ranks

4. (last week's rank) Trevor Bauer, SP, Diamondbacks (at Double-A Mobile): Had his first bump in the road; a rough start and control issues continue to dog him.
8. Brian Dozier, IF, Twins (at Triple-A Rochester): His bat cooled down while Alexi Casilla's has heated up.
9. Brad Hand, SP, Marlins (at Triple-A New Orleans): He got rocked last time out, and the Marlins have no immediate need.
10. James Paxton, SP, Mariners (at Double-A Jackson): This power left-hander was dominating and throwing strikes until walking eight in his last outing.
11. Anthony Rizzo, 1B, Cubs (at Triple-A Iowa): Still crushing the ball, but with Bryan LaHair doing well, the Cubs don't need to rush him until they know they won't get a repeat of last year's big league disaster.
12. Casey Kelly, SP, Padres (at Triple-A Tucson): The bad news: Kelly was scratched from his last start because of elbow soreness. The good news: An MRI showed no structural damage.

Bonus round

For those in deeper leagues, here are three pitchers putting up big numbers in Double-A who probably won't see the big leagues until 2013.

Tyler Thornburg, SP, Brewers: This undersized righty took a perfect game into the eighth inning this week and features three-plus pitches.
Taijuan Walker, SP, Mariners: The 19-year-old has electrifying stuff and has limited Southern League hitters to a .158 batting average while striking out 15 over 11 innings.
Zack Wheeler, SP, Mets: Wheeler is a high-ceiling pitcher acquired from the Giants in last year's Carlos Beltran deal. He has mid-90s heat, a wipeout power breaking ball and 21 strikeouts in his first 15 innings.

Offline sportsfan882

  • Posts: 93631
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2565 on: April 21, 2012, 11:33:44 am »
But he isn't even hitting HRs in AAA

Offline Lintyfresh85

  • Posts: 35152
  • World Champions!!!
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2566 on: April 21, 2012, 12:04:26 pm »
Hindsight is 20/20 but he should have started the year in AA.

Online aspenbubba

  • Posts: 6088
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2567 on: April 22, 2012, 07:13:05 am »
Hindsight is 20/20 but he should have started the year in AA.

This and I said it last year

Offline Lintyfresh85

  • Posts: 35152
  • World Champions!!!
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2568 on: April 22, 2012, 10:01:36 am »
As did a lot of us... But I see why they wanted to push him at AAA to see how he reacted to the challenge.

Offline HalfSmokes

  • Posts: 21925
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2569 on: April 22, 2012, 10:08:33 am »
He was drafted at age 19- it's not the end of the world if he's not ready until age 22 or 23

Offline I can Throw

  • Posts: 356
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2570 on: April 22, 2012, 11:01:12 am »
He was drafted at age 19- it's not the end of the world if he's not ready until age 22 or 23

I think you mean 17.

Offline sportsfan882

  • Posts: 93631
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2571 on: April 22, 2012, 01:22:11 pm »
First AAA homer :clap:

Offline Lintyfresh85

  • Posts: 35152
  • World Champions!!!
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2572 on: April 22, 2012, 01:25:12 pm »
Hopefully he doesn't wait 15 more games for his next one.

Offline Baseball is Life

  • Posts: 20393
  • Proud member of the Sunshine Squad.
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2573 on: April 22, 2012, 03:55:49 pm »
He will get hot and hit in bunches. Not to worry. I still predict a late June call up.

Offline madj55

  • Posts: 7779
Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2574 on: April 22, 2012, 04:53:51 pm »
wow that was a shot that he hit