Author Topic: The Bryce Harper Watch (Read 218882 times)

tomterp · « **Reply #2425 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:45:26 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on February 26, 2012, 04:17:47 pm

I'm not sure any prospect ever has been projected to hit .300 and 45 homers.

No, because you look like a fool if you go out on a limb like that. As a result, there's a conservative bias in projecting the top shelf prospects, better to undershoot a bit.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #2426 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:54:59 pm »

Quote from: RD on February 26, 2012, 04:19:09 am

I always wonder why he's called the best prospect of all time, then many people project him to be a .275 guy with 35 home runs. That's essentially Adam Dunn.

I know he's got work to to do live up to it all, but personally, .275 with 35 bombs is a bit of a disappointment.

Worst post ever.

RD · « **Reply #2427 on:** February 26, 2012, 10:50:14 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on February 26, 2012, 09:54:59 pm

Worst post ever.

Thanks. Because yours was so enlightening.

If Harper is Adam Dunn with defense, he's a disappointment. That's simply a fact of the situation.

When you are hyped as the best prospect ever, the best power prospect ever .... To then only hit .275 with 30 home runs is a disappointment. That doesn't mean he isn't a productive player with those type of numbers. But it means he didnt live up to expectations.

btw, there have been people that said he does have the power to hit 50 bombs a year. So its not some random projection that I am the first one to make, but saying he should get into the 40's on bombs yearly. I may have been a bit over the top with the actual number of home runs. If he hits between 30 and 40 yearly, certainly, thats big time power. Im more taking issue with only projecting him to hit .275. He absolutely should hit better than that.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2428 on:** February 27, 2012, 05:24:05 am »

lol i'd take .275 and 35 homers

houston-nat · « **Reply #2429 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:01:03 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on February 27, 2012, 05:24:05 am

lol i'd take .275 and 35 homers

Yeah, but you'd take that from Michael Morse or maybe even Jayson Werth. You wouldn't take that from "the greatest prospect in baseball history."

I'll dream about Harper batting .295 with 50 homers.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2430 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:03:20 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on February 27, 2012, 12:01:03 pm

Yeah, but you'd take that from Michael Morse or maybe even Jayson Werth. You wouldn't take that from "the greatest prospect in baseball history."

I'll dream about Harper batting .295 with 50 homers.

oh on that note why not .495 with 83 homers a year

houston-nat · « **Reply #2431 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:07:20 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on February 27, 2012, 12:03:20 pm

oh on that note why not .495 with 83 homers a year

I said "dream," not "expect."

But yeah, that seems reasonable.

imref · « **Reply #2432 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:13:57 pm »

.330 / .410 / .485 with 35-40 HRs for a good 7-10 years would be nice. Basically I want Hamilton plus 10-20%.

tomterp · « **Reply #2433 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:15:29 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 27, 2012, 12:13:57 pm

.330 / .410 / .~~485~~ .610 with 35-40 HRs for a good 7-10 years would be nice. Basically I want Hamilton plus 10-20%.

Fixed.

imref · « **Reply #2434 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:15:54 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on February 27, 2012, 12:15:29 pm

Fixed.

fair enough.

tomterp · « **Reply #2435 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:27:19 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 27, 2012, 12:15:54 pm

fair enough.

He's often been compared to Mantle, as well as considered to have prodigious power. Look at Mantle's slugging - career .557 but that was weighted down by some bad late years. Mantle also slugged like a maniac between the ages of 23 and 32:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mantlmi01.shtml

611
705 MVP
665 MVP
592
514
558 MVP-2
687 MVP-2
605 MVP
622
591 MVP-2

Squab · « **Reply #2436 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:30:14 pm »

The biggest plus Harper has is his power, its better than anyone the scouts have seen. Maybe his bat speed and coordination doesnt lead to 50 home runs, but a ton of doubles, and with his speed, triples. I'd be ok with that. Like Mantle, huge SLG

blue911 · « **Reply #2437 on:** February 27, 2012, 12:36:29 pm »

.400 OBP/ .300 ISO

houston-nat · « **Reply #2438 on:** February 27, 2012, 01:17:39 pm »

Of course, I'd also be "okay" with 50 home runs in each of his Nationals seasons.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #2439 on:** February 27, 2012, 01:21:24 pm »

362/609/812 seems doable

I can Throw · « **Reply #2440 on:** February 27, 2012, 01:21:59 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on February 27, 2012, 01:17:39 pm

Of course, I'd also be "okay" with 50 home runs in each of his Nationals seasons.

I'd take 40 for his rookie year, but he would need to hit .320 for the season.

blue911 · « **Reply #2441 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:20:01 pm »

Quote from: I can Throw on February 27, 2012, 01:21:59 pm

I'd take 40 for his rookie year, but he would need to hit .320 for the season.

So you're okay with him staying down til September?

I can Throw · « **Reply #2442 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:22:03 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on February 27, 2012, 04:20:01 pm

So you're okay with him staying down til September?

I was thinking he wouldn't come up till June 1

imref · « **Reply #2443 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:39:50 pm »

Harper average draft position is 222 on mock draft central's site, 58th among OFs, just behind Boesch and Rios but ahead of Lorenzo Cain.

houston-nat · « **Reply #2444 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:45:56 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 27, 2012, 04:39:50 pm

Harper average draft position is 222 on mock draft central's site, 58th among OFs, just behind Boesch and Rios but ahead of Lorenzo Cain.

Seriously? Behind Alex Rios? Guess they're not keeper leagues.

imref · « **Reply #2445 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:53:25 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on February 27, 2012, 04:45:56 pm

Seriously? Behind Alex Rios? Guess they're not keeper leagues.

no, standard 5x5

imref · « **Reply #2446 on:** February 28, 2012, 09:40:54 pm »

say it isn't so! Bryce Harper has deleted his twitter account.

Squab · « **Reply #2447 on:** February 28, 2012, 09:45:52 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 28, 2012, 09:40:54 pm

say it isn't so! Bryce Harper has deleted his twitter account.

Woah! That's wild! After the social media meeting, that's crazy. He was just telling reporters how much he liked interacting with his fans. Too damn bad I guess, that's very interesting.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #2448 on:** February 28, 2012, 10:07:39 pm »

This is like the third time he's deleted his Twitter.

NatsFanSince2005 · « **Reply #2449 on:** February 28, 2012, 10:14:47 pm »

Do you all see Harper staying with the Nats IF we win a world series before the end of his contract, which I personally think will be the minimum requirement to peak his continual interest? I think he'll bail for the yankees the first chance he gets.

What about Strasburg? I think his loyalty lies with the money and he may stay with Washington if we pay him the best offer.