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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1575 on: June 07, 2011, 03:32:12 pm »


Call it a technicality all you want.  It's still gonna get the kid thrown at more.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1576 on: June 07, 2011, 03:40:54 pm »
Call it a technicality all you want.  It's still gonna get the kid thrown at more.


This has been mentioned a lot, but I'm not so sure.

There are a lot of jerks in baseball but I don't remember seeing a whole lot of guys gettin' thrown at.

And has anyone besides Tony Conigliaro and Kirby Puckett really gotten hurt by a pitched ball?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1577 on: June 07, 2011, 03:42:14 pm »

This has been mentioned a lot, but I'm not so sure.

There are a lot of jerks in baseball but I don't remember seeing a whole lot of guys gettin' thrown at.

And has anyone besides Tony Conigliaro and Kirby Puckett really gotten hurt by a pitched ball?




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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1578 on: June 07, 2011, 03:47:30 pm »
i hate agreeing with SF. :)

Me too but I completely agree with him on this, and I'm an old conservative guy.  I was trying to find the quote from last year where one of Harper's teammates at Southern Nevada said no one in the stands would believe the amount of sh*t Harper takes every time he steps in the box.  Remember the salute last year that got him suspended? It was after that.  The opposition was calling him every name in the book from the dugout, so he threw them a salute as he rounded third, and got punished for it. Hell, Manny Ramirez stood a home plate for every one of his 5000 homers and no one cared. I thought Thom Loverro would rip Harper today on his show and instead he and the guest on the phone both said they loved the kiss blowing. I may not like it if I was the opposition, but I like his "kiss my ___" attitude.

As far as the mustache, that advice may have come from a coach.  I had a friend in my post-military college days who was once in the twins minor league system.  Like Harper, he had a baby face.  His manager told him to grow a goatee to look a little more menacing in the box. He told him, "you wouldn't scare my wife if you broke in my house."  Just saying that's a possibility.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1579 on: June 07, 2011, 03:49:36 pm »
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Nationals source: Bryce Harper exchange used as a teachable moment for the whole Hagerstown team. It's been talked about, matter closed.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1580 on: June 07, 2011, 04:16:11 pm »
Lannan would never stare at a Phillies hitter after he hit a bomb against him, so this situation would never happen.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1581 on: June 07, 2011, 04:27:33 pm »
Lannan would never stare at a Phillies hitter after he hit a bomb against him, so this situation would never happen.
              You brought up a very good point. Most of the Major League Starters, and Major League Relief pitchers do not look at the batter,once that batter has hit a HR off of them, and are rounding the bases. That is very true, and a small detail that I forgot until you mentioned it.  Excellent point. Another difference between Minor and Major League pitchers........absolutely. So only the fans, position players (maybe), and media would capture those type of antics, if they occurred...   :popcorn:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1582 on: June 07, 2011, 04:38:18 pm »

This has been mentioned a lot, but I'm not so sure.

There are a lot of jerks in baseball but I don't remember seeing a whole lot of guys gettin' thrown at.

And has anyone besides Tony Conigliaro and Kirby Puckett really gotten hurt by a pitched ball?


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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1583 on: June 07, 2011, 05:02:20 pm »
another thing I've not seen mentioned is that most of the players on the other team are probably really young too and need some growing up themselves.  I'm sure this didn't come out of  nowhere, but I don't think that's the kind of bad boy attitude this organization is trying to foster.  I wonder what would have happened if Zim had still been in that locker room for another game or two when that happened?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1584 on: June 07, 2011, 05:09:52 pm »
The attention this has gotten is sickening. You have jerks that don't know crap about baseball like Chad Dukes talking trash about Harper like he knows what he's talking about. ESPN too. Pathetic.

He did nothing freaking wrong. The pitcher said something to him as he rounding third so Harper turned around and blew a kiss. Big freaking deal, who gives a crap.

All of these snobby ass baseball nerds should go kill themselves. The game has changed. Baseball needs more great personalities like Harper. That's what it is keeping it from becoming as popular as the NFL.

And oh yeah, Harper is batting .342/.435/.623 with 14 HRs, 42 RBIs, and 12 SBs in his first full season stint. That's all that freaking matters.
Classic SF :rofl: 
"don't know crap about baseball" remark?  Check.
"go kill yourself" remark?  Check.
All that post needed was a "garbage," "bum," and "go to jail for that crap :whip:" to be a complete SF anthology.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1585 on: June 07, 2011, 05:14:05 pm »
You guys are focusing on this isolated event a little too much, I think.  During the game I went to Bryce stared down the umpire after he struck out swinging too.  I think he's honestly just an jerk.  Some people have that personality.  It would be nice if Bryce learns to tone it down, but if he doesn't and still produces, I'll live with it.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1586 on: June 07, 2011, 06:16:19 pm »
Classic SF :rofl: 
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"go kill yourself" remark?  Check.
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Classic indeed.  He hasn't dropped that one in a while.

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« Reply #1587 on: June 07, 2011, 06:17:04 pm »
You guys are focusing on this isolated event a little too much, I think.  During the game I went to Bryce stared down the umpire after he struck out swinging too.  I think he's honestly just an jerk.  Some people have that personality.  It would be nice if Bryce learns to tone it down, but if he doesn't and still produces, I'll live with it.

Pretty much.  It's a bunch of kids playing a game.  Frankly it's amazing that baseball players don't talk MORE crap.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1588 on: June 07, 2011, 06:22:57 pm »
The biggest problem I'm having with this is the expectation that Harper should be somehow "better" than other A players, as far as attitude goes?  Why is that, because he makes more money or that he's so much better than they are?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1589 on: June 07, 2011, 06:54:55 pm »
Classic indeed.  He hasn't dropped that one in a while.

My dad has the exact reverse remark in his repertoire. If somebody corrects him, he says, "Well, I'll just go kill myself."

So nobody corrects him.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1590 on: June 07, 2011, 06:55:34 pm »
My dad has the exact reverse remark in his repertoire. If somebody corrects him, he says, "Well, I'll just go kill myself."

So nobody corrects him.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1591 on: June 07, 2011, 07:07:42 pm »

This has been mentioned a lot, but I'm not so sure.

There are a lot of jerks in baseball but I don't remember seeing a whole lot of guys gettin' thrown at.

And has anyone besides Tony Conigliaro and Kirby Puckett really gotten hurt by a pitched ball?


That Jewish kid on the Cubs that got beaned in the head and never really recovered.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1592 on: June 07, 2011, 07:08:17 pm »
That Jewish kid on the Cubs that got beaned in the head and never really recovered.

Alfonso Soriano?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1593 on: June 07, 2011, 07:35:01 pm »
The biggest problem I'm having with this is the expectation that Harper should be somehow "better" than other A players, as far as attitude goes?  Why is that, because he makes more money or that he's so much better than they are?
Harper should be better than other A players because in 3 years he'll be a MLB All Star and most of the guys that are in Hagerstown and the rest of the Sally League will be out of pro ball by then. There'll be a guy down at the car wash, wiping down your windows, saying "Hey, you see that Harper kid hit that bomb last night? I got him to pop up in Hagerstown."

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1594 on: June 07, 2011, 08:40:15 pm »
There'll be a guy down at the car wash, wiping down your windows, saying "Hey, you see that Harper kid hit that bomb last night? I got him to pop up in Hagerstown."

You think they'll be that lucky?  I figured they'd be hustling BJs at truck stops by then.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1595 on: June 07, 2011, 08:43:43 pm »
You think they'll be that lucky?  I figured they'd be hustling BJs at truck stops by then.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1596 on: June 07, 2011, 08:48:24 pm »

This has been mentioned a lot, but I'm not so sure.

There are a lot of jerks in baseball but I don't remember seeing a whole lot of guys gettin' thrown at.

And has anyone besides Tony Conigliaro and Kirby Puckett really gotten hurt by a pitched ball?

Players get hurt all the time. Just that they hardly ever get fatally injured.

Isn't Marlon Byrd put now after getting hit in the face?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1597 on: June 07, 2011, 10:23:38 pm »
The biggest problem I'm having with this is the expectation that Harper should be somehow "better" than other A players, as far as attitude goes?  Why is that, because he makes more money or that he's so much better than they are?

1) He should.  He's a 'franchise' player, he signed a bonus that reflects as much and like it or not his actions, good or bad, reflect on the organization whereas some 22 year old hanging on for dear life in the Sally doesn't have those expectations.
2) Even forgetting that standard, you don't often see the 'average' minor leaguer taunting the pitcher, admiring his HR's and staring down umpires. 

I think this is a case of 'where there's smoke there's fire'.  There have been any number of stories like this over the years, I think unfortunately Harper's been a celebrity since he was 14, told he was special just as long and buys into the hype...it's alot like Lebron when he came up, he's been told he's the best for so long that he buys it and carries an arrogance that can be annoying.

None of this takes away from the kids talent, his drive or his potential contributions to the Nats and baseball in general.  What it does is take a little of the shine off his stardom, if he does turn out to be a bit of a jerk he'll be hated around the game rather than revered like a Pujols or Halladay.  Unfortunate but true, hopefully this is just immaturity rearing its ugly head.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1598 on: June 07, 2011, 10:53:24 pm »
Harper 1/3 with a Single, RBI, and walk tonight in a 13-5 Hagerstown loss.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #1599 on: June 08, 2011, 12:55:23 pm »
FWIW, Harper says he was blowing the kiss to his own bench, not to the opposing pitcher.