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Re: MLB-Watching (2009)
« Reply #475 on: August 07, 2009, 08:49:44 am »
Smoltz got rocked again.  Left handed batters are hitting .444 off him.  Looks like a write-off for the Red Sox.

Who do the Red Sox have to replace him?

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« Reply #476 on: August 07, 2009, 08:51:24 am »
They could trade for Stammen?

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« Reply #477 on: August 07, 2009, 09:12:03 am »
They could trade for Stammen?

Sydney Ponson might be an upgrade over both Penny & Smoltz. It's a shame about Smoltz, I really like the guy, but at 42 or whatever coming back from a torn Labrum was a long shot at best. Penny is a thrower, serves the Red Sox right for not going after Randy Wolf.

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« Reply #478 on: August 07, 2009, 09:46:21 am »
Just a guess, but Smoltz will likely move to the bullpen to be a long guy / righty specialist. Sort of the Masterson role.  Traber is likely DFA'd today and they will bring up some cannon fodder.  They may use either Tazawa or Bowden for a spot start and hope Byrd or Wakefield get ready in 10 days. Otherwise, they'll may try to bring in a vet.  Yanks got a good one in Chad Gaudin.

They also have a SS problem.  I posted on a Wire thread my thoughts about Guzman.  He likely cleared waivers already.  If they go offense rather than defense at SS, there's room to deal.

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« Reply #479 on: August 07, 2009, 09:52:23 am »
Just a guess, but Smoltz will likely move to the bullpen to be a long guy / righty specialist. Sort of the Masterson role.  Traber is likely DFA'd today and they will bring up some cannon fodder.  They may use either Tazawa or Bowden for a spot start and hope Byrd or Wakefield get ready in 10 days. Otherwise, they'll may try to bring in a vet.  Yanks got a good one in Chad Gaudin.

They also have a SS problem.  I posted on a Wire thread my thoughts about Guzman.  He likely cleared waivers already.  If they go offense rather than defense at SS, there's room to deal.

I guess they could try to get Aaron Harang out of the Reds.


EDIT: Come to think of it, the Royals may want to shed Gil Meche's remaining $27M or so.

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« Reply #480 on: August 07, 2009, 10:24:25 am »
It isn't so much how much they spend on free agents. Rather, it's the endless capacity to gamble on injured players and eat bad contracts where the Red Sox use their financial advantage.  Lowell in 2004/05 is the one where eating a bad contract worked out the best.  They ate $11m on Rentaria, $13m on Lugo since 2005 at one position.  They can eat Guz's contract if they need to next year.

After this year, they have to reassess their ability to count on rehabbing players, especially pitchers, for depth.  Between Wade Miller (?), Bartolo Colon, Schilling 2008, Penny, and Smoltz, that's been mostly negative returns.  They might have gotten 10 wins out of all those experiments, with more than half coming form Penny and his 5+ ERA. 

In contrast to their willingness to eat their own and others overpays, they tend not to overpay on multi-year big bucks free agents. The current ownership has only given out 2 contracts over $50m in total payout (Dice-K and Drew).  They bid, like on Teixeira, but they have limits.

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« Reply #481 on: August 07, 2009, 10:43:28 am »
In contrast to their willingness to eat their own and others overpays, they tend not to overpay on multi-year big bucks free agents. The current ownership has only given out 2 contracts over $50m in total payout (Dice-K and Drew).  They bid, like on Teixeira, but they have limits.

Smaller dollars, but they also overpaid on Veritek.

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« Reply #482 on: August 07, 2009, 11:03:34 am »
Clearly if they're calling up Traber, their farm system is a mess.  Worse than ours.

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« Reply #483 on: August 07, 2009, 11:53:35 am »
Clearly if they're calling up Traber, their farm system is a mess.  Worse than ours.
Um, we called up Rivera and Kensing.

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« Reply #484 on: August 07, 2009, 11:54:04 am »
That's hilarious. Crow now has more beer-n-burger time to sit on his ass.
And knowing the Hendricks brothers, he's gonna eat every burger he can for the next 10 months. How sweet would it be if Crow finally signs as a 23- or 24-year-old Ray King?

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« Reply #485 on: August 07, 2009, 12:18:11 pm »
Um, we called up Rivera and Kensing.

I'd rather have Rivera and Kensing than Traber!

Anyway, we're the lowly Washington Nationals. They're THE NATION.  The player(s) those two teams call up shouldn't even be in the same conversation.

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« Reply #486 on: August 07, 2009, 04:29:49 pm »
Traber DFA'd.  Junichi Tazawa up.  Chris Woodward claimed as an SS.  Lowrie likely back to the DL.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/tazawa_in_clubh.html

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« Reply #487 on: August 07, 2009, 05:04:10 pm »
(This is pretty random) Between these two players, who would you say had the better (MVP) season?

Hitter - .315/.370/.600, 46 HR, 139 RBI

Pitcher - 25-3, 1.74 ERA, 0.946 WHIP, 273.2 IP, 248 K

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« Reply #488 on: August 07, 2009, 05:12:45 pm »
pitcher. not even close

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« Reply #489 on: August 07, 2009, 05:27:09 pm »
pitcher. not even close

Definitely. The hitter won the MVP, though.

Hitter = Jim Rice
Pitcher = Ron Guidry

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« Reply #490 on: August 07, 2009, 06:47:17 pm »
I would go with the pitcher. He won the Cy Young though.

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« Reply #491 on: August 07, 2009, 08:43:24 pm »
Pretty surprising that the Rangers designated Vicente Padilla for assignment.

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« Reply #492 on: August 08, 2009, 12:27:19 am »
I hope some of you are fortunate enough to be watching this Yankees-Red Sox game. This is a true baseball classic. Now in the 15th, it is still 0-0 and the Yankees were within inches of two different near walk off hits in the 14th.

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« Reply #493 on: August 08, 2009, 12:33:22 am »
it's unbelievable. 0-0 game in 15 innings in that stadium. incredible

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« Reply #494 on: August 08, 2009, 01:02:01 am »
it's unbelievable. 0-0 game in 15 innings in that stadium. incredible
A-Rod homer wins it.

Here's a weird hairstyle at the Mariners game. Goofy little bun on top of her head.

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« Reply #495 on: August 08, 2009, 01:10:18 am »
David Aardsma, Rice alum, has pitched nothing but 95-96 mph fastballs so far. No breaking balls at all.

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« Reply #496 on: August 08, 2009, 01:57:41 am »
And A-Rod is not the only guy to hit a walk-off 2 run home run to win an extra inning ball game tonight!

The other is ... Ryan Langerhans. :? If anything his homer was even cooler, as the M's were down 6-5 in the 11th when he slugged the victory out.

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« Reply #497 on: August 08, 2009, 12:09:56 pm »
A-Rod homer wins it.

Great game.  Let's see - 2 pilsner urquells, 3 jacks on the rocks, and a hook and ladder, I think.  So it was not a total waste of 6 hours.  Tazawa pitched the 14th and 15th.  One year ago he was pitching semi-pro in a Kyushu industrial league, his first batter in the majors is Godzilla, and he loses on a walk off jack to A-Rod.  By the way, first game in MLB history that 3 Japanese pitchers appeared (Okajima, Saito, Tazawa).

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« Reply #498 on: August 08, 2009, 05:57:31 pm »
I enjoyed watching that game just because the cameraman zoomed in on Paul O'Neill's yogurt cup when the announcers got bored.

By the way, Clay Buchholz isn't putting up bad numbers so far -
4.1 IP 5 H 1 ER 4 BB 3 K
But he is throwing way too many balls. The kid's thrown almost as many balls as strikes, so by the time he ends this inning he'll likely be past 100 pitches.

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« Reply #499 on: August 09, 2009, 01:03:24 am »
So the Marlins have now won two in Philly.  There may not have ever been a more obvious case of looking past an opponent than what we saw in DC with the Marlins this week.  They're going to regret that series for a long time.  Couldn't be happier about that.