Author Topic: Daniel Cabrera is a Nat!!! (Read 13502 times)

hammondsnats · « **on:** December 20, 2008, 04:29:59 pm »

Knew this one was gonna happen (for better or worse). I called this a while ago.

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/nationals_daniel_cabrera_agree.html

MrMadison · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:30:58 pm »

yeah, who didn't see this one coming.

we're gonna have some pissed folks here in 4...3...2...

at least it's a 1-year deal.

Air Zimmerman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:33:24 pm »

i like it. if St. Claire can corral Cabrera, he has the potential to be dominant.

MrMadison · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:34:11 pm »

Quote from: Air Zimmerman on December 20, 2008, 04:33:24 pm

i like it. if St. Claire can corral Cabrera, he has the potential to be dominant.

that he does. if he can overcome Bergmann-itis.

I gotta say he's a prime candidate for 5th starter.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:36:35 pm »

Another healthy head case

I saw the Nats beat the crap out of him at Camden once

Glad to have ya, Daniel. Great signing.

ronnynat · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:41:19 pm »

Doesn't seem like an upgrade over Redding, but it's not a terrible signing.

houston-nat · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:43:32 pm »

Eh, trying to find a flash in the pan ... maybe it works, if it doesn't, hopefully it's not too much of a waste.
Now let's move on to a couple minor league pitcher signings, get us some relief, see what else we can find in other teams' trash...

MrMadison · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:44:53 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on December 20, 2008, 04:41:19 pm

Doesn't seem like an upgrade over Redding, but it's not a terrible signing.

he's younger. *reaching for an answer here*

MrMadison · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:47:03 pm »

I'll say this..

if St. Claire can actually manage to get Cabrera turned around, I better not hear another complaint about St. Claire.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:48:51 pm »

Exactly MrMadison, he's being brought in as a fifth starter. He has shown flashes that's for sure and like I mentioned earlier, when he's paired with a pitching coach he likes, he's on top of his game (at least as much as he's ever going to be). He has a very live fastball and a pretty nice slider, I'd say his breaking stuff still needs a bit of tweaking. He's going to walk batters, no doubt about it, but when he's on he doesn't give up many runs and can rack up the k's. Expect some happy game threads to go along with some unhappy ones

That leaves us with Lannan, Olsen and Cabrera as pretty much locks in the rotation.

MrMadison · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:50:47 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on December 20, 2008, 04:48:51 pm

Exactly MrMadison, he's being brought in as a fifth starter. He has shown flashes that's for sure and like I mentioned earlier, when he's paired with a pitching coach he likes, he's on top of his game (at least as much as he's ever going to be). He has a very live fastball and a pretty nice slider, I'd say his breaking stuff still needs a bit of tweaking. He's going to walk batters, no doubt about it, but when he's on he doesn't give up many runs and can rack up the k's. Expect some happy game threads to go along with some unhappy ones

That leaves us with Lannan, Olsen and Cabrera as pretty much locks in the rotation.

I don't think Cabrera is a lock. a heavy candidate sure, but not a lock.

he's still gonna have to show and prove in ST.

ronnynat · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:51:34 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on December 20, 2008, 04:47:03 pm

I'll say this..

if St. Claire can actually manage to get Cabrera turned around, I better not hear another complaint about St. Claire.

I hope someone teaches him how to hold a bat, swing a bat, and bunt, too. He seriously looks like a 4-year-old girl at the plate.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:52:39 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on December 20, 2008, 04:51:34 pm

I hope someone teaches him how to hold a bat, swing a bat, and bunt, too. He seriously looks like a 4-year-old girl at the plate.

oh he can't hit worth a sh!t. expect a lot of bunt attempts (or at least i hope).

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:53:56 pm »

Not thrilled but at least it's only a 1-year deal.

Going to the NL should help him but I think he's a lost cause anyways.

MrMadison · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:54:08 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on December 20, 2008, 04:51:34 pm

I hope someone teaches him how to hold a bat, swing a bat, and bunt, too. He seriously looks like a 4-year-old girl at the plate.

where's Lenny Harris when you need him.

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:56:08 pm »

Given the complete lack of proven big league talent, this is not a bad move. It at least creates competition. It's a low risk on the Nats part with potential upside. It is not like he is being brought in to be the savior. Hopefully, we'll have five guys who perform better, and if we do, he could end up as long relief. This assumes of course we didn't spend silly money on him.

DCFan · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:57:34 pm »

What happened to the Lerner who said he was taking over and running things his way from now on? Looks like we're still dumpster-diving for starting pitchers just as we did during the glory days of the plan.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:58:42 pm »

Quote from: DCFan on December 20, 2008, 04:57:34 pm

What happened to the Lerner who said he was taking over and running things his way from now on? Looks like we're still dumpster-diving for starting pitchers just as we did during the glory days of the plan.

We said we werent going to sign any big free agent pitchers this off season, it was about a bat or two. I dont mind this signing, i just want to see what St. Claire can do with him.

MrMadison · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:00:21 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 20, 2008, 04:58:42 pm

We said we werent going to sign any big free agent pitchers this off season, it was about a bat or two. I dont mind this signing, i just want to see what St. Claire can do with him.

dammit Jim(bowden), he's a pitching coach, not a miracle worker!

Evolution33 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:10:00 pm »

This guy is pure potential. He is either one of those players that will "get it" at some point or we will be reading this story every year as team after team releases him only for some other team to sign him based on potential.

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:10:59 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on December 20, 2008, 04:41:19 pm

Doesn't seem like an upgrade over Redding, but it's not a terrible signing.

I agree. Cabrera really intrigues me. The guy could be awesome if he could get his head on straight. I wonder if the move to the National League will help him out any? Let's hope St. Claire can work some of his magic here.

Natskins · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:11:27 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on December 20, 2008, 04:47:03 pm

I'll say this..

if St. Claire can actually manage to get Cabrera turned around, I better not hear another complaint about St. Claire.

Agreed. I think Cabrera's terrible, but for a one-year deal, it's worth rolling the dice to see if Randy can straighten him out.

I'd only be pissed about the move if it had been for multiple years.

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:14:13 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on December 20, 2008, 05:00:21 pm

dammit Jim(bowden), he's a pitching coach, not a miracle worker!

LMAO. Throwing some Bones out there are we?

wpa2629 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:22:43 pm »

Give him a year with the Saint and let's see what he can do

We Won? · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2008, 05:55:31 pm »

He'll be our Royals ace