Plan "B"

[cmdterps44]

your turn.

Why does he need a turn? He just asked for an Idea, not to go back and forth with roster moves. I'm open to anything as long as we can make ourselves a FA destination for next year. I want Holliday or Bay!

[sportsfan882]

I want to hear yours.  Ready GO!

Sign Hinske to a 1-year $5 Million dollar deal. Go with NJ as the starter if he's ready in the Spring and then when/if he gets hurt plug Hinske in who could put up similar numbers to Dunn for a third of the price.

[hammondsnats]

sign Bobby Abreu for a 1 or 2 year deal.

move Willingham to 1B if Nick gets injured.

your turn.

Thanks MrMadison.  You, NOTLD, Ronnynat have all done your job.  I've already played this game, but I'll play again.

Plan A - Teixeira
FAIL

Plan B - Dunn
STILL OPEN.

Plan C - Johnson
STILL OPEN. 
And you hope to god he is un-johnson like and can stay healthy.  If not you pick your poison.  You either move Willingham to 1B and risk throwing Kearns/WMP out there or bringing up one of the kids.  Or you keep Willingham at LF and risk throwing Belliard/Casto out there or bringing up one of the kids. 

Plan D - Swisher/Barton/Abreu
STILL OPEN
And I gave my reasons why I don't see them as good fits.

Plan E - Fielder/Gonzalez
STILL OPEN
But no shot in hell we get either.

[ronnynat]

Sign Hinske to a 1-year $5 Million dollar deal. Go with NJ as the starter if he's ready in the Spring and then when/if he gets hurt plug Hinske in who could put up similar numbers to Dunn for a third of the price.

Eldred could put up Dunn-like numbers, too....for a Minor League price.

[MrMadison]

Thanks MrMadison.  You, NOTLD, Ronnynat have all done your job. 

sorry dude, but we've been discussing these options for the past three threads.

for you to claim that nobody except ronny and sportsfan has come up with any alternatives to your "Sign Dunn or Offseason is Fail" plan is ridiculous, and further proves my tunnel-vision theory.

we've talked about Dunn.
we've talked about Abreu.
we've talked about Swisher
We've talked about Barton
we've talked about Fielder
we've talked about Gonzales
and we've talked about doing nothing and relying on NJ.

and we've been exploring all of the options ever since the offseason started, in the Tex thread, and in the 2 threads that followed it.

and by "we" I mean the majority of the people posting in these threads.

[hammondsnats]

another Alternative that was discussed in detail was trying to trade for Prince Fielder, and what it would possibly take to get him.

And as I said we'd have to give up the farm, you think our guys are going to want to do that?

[R-Zim#11]

I've already played this game, but I'll play again.

Ok, I'll play:

Plan A - I agree -- Teixeira
FAIL

Plan B - Dunn (at a reasonable contract -- no more then 3 years, no more then $10-$12 mil)
STILL OPEN, BUT UNLIKELY.

Plan C - Johnson
STILL OPEN. 
This is most likely at this point. I hope that the 2006 Johnson shows, but not holding my breath. However, rather then cart Weapon of Mass Putouts (WMP) and Kearns for more of the same, I would rather trot out a Davis or give Justin Maxwell/Roger Bernadina a shot in CF, with Willingham at 1st. Just no more Belliard/Casto/Orr

Plan D - Swisher/Barton
STILL OPEN
Yeah this is a plan D -- but not one I would rely on

[Nat of the Living Dead]

I think this thread should be retitled "Plan 7M" because it feels like we have gone around the block in just as many times.

[MrMadison]

And as I said we'd have to give up the farm, you think our guys are going to want to do that?

not even remotely my point.

you said nobody ever discussed any alternatives except for ronny and sportsfan.

which is patently false.

[hammondsnats]

sorry dude, but we've been discussing these options for the past three threads.

for you to claim that nobody except ronny and sportsfan has come up with any alternatives to your Sign Dunn = Win plan is ridiculous, and further proves my tunnel-vision theory.

we've talked about Dunn.
we've talked about Abreu.
we've talked about Swisher
We've talked about Barton
we've talked about Fielder
we've talked about Gonzales
and we've talked about doing nothing.

and we've been exploring all of the options ever since the offseason started, in the Tex thread, and in the 2 threads that followed it.

and by "we" I mean the majority of the people posting in these threads.

the point of this excerise was to prove it get's annoying having to retype the same posts over and over again to get your points across?  yeah.  now you know how i feel. 

oh but i get tabbed to have some fascination with dunn, even though i don't.  imo he's the best option.  am i not allowed to have an opinion?  or does it have to be a current nat or someone in our farm system?  nice you want abreu, i would like dunn. 

[R-Zim#11]

I think this thread should be retitled "Plan 7M" because it feels like we have gone around the block in just as many times.

Since Preparations A-G were a complete failure, I think Preparation H is more appropriate. After all, Preparation H does feel good...on the whole.

[MrMadison]

you see the example of this excerise was to prove it get's annoying having to retype the same posts over and over again to get your points across?  yeah.  now you know how i feel. 

oh but i get tabbed to have some fascination with dunn, even though i don't.  imo he's the best option.  am i not allowed to have an opinion?  or does it have to be a current nat or someone in our farm system?  nice you want abreu, i would like dunn. 

ah here we go with the good ol' "not allowed to have an opinion" angle.

I've already said multiple times that I am in favor of signing Dunn. I just don't think it is a matter of "Sign Dunn or Failure".

you seem to think that it is. if that's your opinion, then fine, have it.  I disagree with it. am I allowed to disgree? or does it have to be Dunn or Bust?

[blue911]

Since Preparations A-G were a complete failure, I think Preparation H is more appropriate. After all, Preparation H does feel good...on the whole hole.

Sorry couldn't resist 

[spidernat]

Sorry couldn't resist 

[ronnynat]

OT: It's freaking COLD!!

[MrMadison]

OT: It's freaking COLD!!

omg yes it is.

I went out this morning, and when I got back inside, my legs were actually hurting from being so cold.

[BerkeleyNat]

MLB Rumors.com has a link to some Yankees fan blogs. They believe they can trade Nady or Swisher straight up for Milledge or Dukes. We might as well throw in Lannan to top off the deal. Hell, we could just deal Lannan, Dukes, and Milledge for Swisher? What a great deal.

[hammondsnats]

It's cold but I got my chicken parisien from La Madeleine so I'm good. 

I don't know how I expect to have 50-70 people over in my tiny apartment tomorrow night for my roomie's going away party, when we're expected to have the keg outside.  Oh no. 

But back to the point, if we fail to get Dunn and we have to rely on Nick the Stick, oh well so be it.  I think we've all seen the movie before and how it ends, but maybe we get lucky as hell and he stays healthy and has a career year. 

Sh'yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt.

[BerkeleyNat]

OT: It's freaking COLD!!

Hell yes it is. There's no keeping warm outside. I had my winter coat on this morning and it didn't help at all.

[MrMadison]

MLB Rumors.com has a link to some Yankees fan blogs. They believe they can trade Nady or Swisher straight up for Milledge or Dukes. We might as well throw in Lannan to top off the deal. Hell, we could just deal Lannan, Dukes, and Milledge for Swisher? What a great deal.

Yankees Hat-Wearers (I refuse to call them "fans") = morons with a entitlement complex.

[R-Zim#11]

MLB Rumors.com has a link to some Yankees fan blogs. They believe they can trade Nady or Swisher straight up for Milledge or Dukes. We might as well throw in Lannan to top off the deal. Hell, we could just deal Lannan, Dukes, and Milledge for Swisher? What a great deal.

Well, they can believe anything they want to. They can believe that they are guaranteed a spot in the WS too...just like Detroit last year...

[ronnynat]

MLB Rumors.com has a link to some Yankees fan blogs. They believe they can trade Nady or Swisher straight up for Milledge or Dukes. We might as well throw in Lannan to top off the deal. Hell, we could just deal Lannan, Dukes, and Milledge for Swisher? What a great deal.

I'd be okay with getting Nady for Milledge. If we could get 2-3 years out of Nady, that would run right into the time when Burgess would be ready. If Burgess doesn't work out, I'm sure there will be another option available.

[BerkeleyNat]

Well, they can believe anything they want to. They can believe that they are guaranteed a spot in the WS too...just like Detroit last year...

Nothing will make me happier than to see them completely fall on their ass this season. Anything but a world series title for them is complete and utter failure.

[hammondsnats]

I'd be okay with getting Nady for Milledge. If we could get 2-3 years out of Nady, that would run right into the time when Burgess would be ready. If Burgess doesn't work out, I'm sure there will be another option available.

Nady is a FA after this year, where we'd have Milledge already locked up.  IMO, I'd rather keep Lastings.

[blue911]

I'd be okay with getting Nady for Milledge. If we could get 2-3 years out of Nady, that would run right into the time when Burgess would be ready. If Burgess doesn't work out, I'm sure there will be another option available.

Nady is like too many of our players, no patience at the plate. Milledge has a much better idea of the strike zone.