Author Topic: Plan "B" (Read 131080 times)

spidernat · « **Reply #2200 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:19:58 pm »

I believe this team is going to be much better than last season. And I think adding a couple of pieces could've helped us a great deal, not necessarily to contend for the playoffs but to break the string of losing and to make us a more attractive destination in the future. I don't think any of the players available, aside from Teixeira, were long term solutions. But it would be nice to improve for the next year or two while our prospects and upcoming draft picks simmer until they are ready to produce. I'd like this team to not be a freaking joke for the next couple of years because I plan on watching every game.

MrMadison · « **Reply #2201 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:20:14 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on January 16, 2009, 01:30:37 pm

Other than ronnynat and NOTLD, no one has brought up options.

you are full of it, and you know it.

we've spend countless posts in multiple threads discussing other options, from trading to signing other OF Bats and moving Willingham to 1B.

Dunn is blocking your vision, otherwise you wouldn't be saying such nonsense.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #2202 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:20:50 pm »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 16, 2009, 02:19:16 pm

They start talking to volleyballs and crap.

I hear the Wilson product is good for that.

spidernat · « **Reply #2203 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:21:10 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on January 16, 2009, 02:12:31 pm

how do you figure

http://www.fangraphs.com/comparison.aspx?playerid=4946&playerid2=6441&playerid3=&position=OF&page=2&type=full

I didn't get that graph. If anything it showed that Dukes fared a little better but then again maybe I didn't interpret it correctly.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #2204 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:22:29 pm »

I think we should start Dukes at pitcher -- he could just unleash the fury on every batter he faces -- they'd all be DL by the third inning - so we'd win every game by forfeit ...

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #2205 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:23:17 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on January 16, 2009, 02:21:10 pm

I didn't get that graph. If anything it showed that Dukes fared a little better but then again maybe I didn't interpret it correctly.

All I see there is "Blonde, Brunette, Red-head"

R-Zim#11 · « **Reply #2206 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:23:20 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on January 16, 2009, 02:09:42 pm

yes, look at his numbers. He might benefit from some time in the minors.

Um, are you crazy?

81 Games, .268/.386/.478. 13 HR 44 RBI. Those get even better when you consider he was terrible until June. He is one of our best players.

MrMadison · « **Reply #2207 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:23:38 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on January 16, 2009, 02:20:50 pm

I hear the Wilson product is good for that.

"My Name is Voit, dumbass".

DCFan · « **Reply #2208 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:25:09 pm »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 16, 2009, 02:13:23 pm

Have you and DCfan being going out on some dates?

Nope but I'll be in Wilmington tomorrow. What are you doing?

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #2209 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:25:23 pm »

Quote from: R-Zim#11 on January 16, 2009, 02:23:20 pm

Those get even better when you consider he was terrible until June.

I forgot he was awful in May. Like, he was really awful. He just became a "bonafide beast" though. Hopefully he didn't get lucky.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2210 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:26:07 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on January 16, 2009, 02:19:58 pm

I believe this team is going to be much better than last season. And I think adding a couple of pieces could've helped us a great deal, not necessarily to contend for the playoffs but to break the string of losing and to make us a more attractive destination in the future. I don't think any of the players available, aside from Teixeira, were long term solutions. But it would be nice to improve for the next year or two while our prospects and upcoming draft picks simmer until they are ready to produce. I'd like this team to not be a freaking joke for the next couple of years because I plan on watching every game.

You said that you think they will be better this season so I don't know why they would be a "freaking joke" for the next couple of years.

I hope we have a good season with the players we got and win 80 or so games.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2211 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:26:51 pm »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 16, 2009, 02:13:23 pm

So sign a bunch of short term crappy players to go with our current signed crappy players. Yeah, that makes sense. We are on our way!

Who is saying anything about signing crappy players? Nobody is.

And sportsfan, I agree, Dukes is a better player than Milledge.

Minty, I know what you mean we didn't get Willingham to sit on bench, but if we went with adding Dunn and keeping Johnson, you could still find some time for Josh. Especially when Johnson goes down haha. The thing is teams like the Red Sox and Yankees have these kinds of problems, they just let themselves work out (they didn't have a position for Youkilis, now he turned out to be a starter, etc). It would give us incredible depth and give us a better team.

spidernat · « **Reply #2212 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:27:01 pm »

Quote from: R-Zim#11 on January 16, 2009, 02:23:20 pm

Um, are you crazy?

81 Games, .268/.386/.478. 13 HR 44 RBI. Those get even better when you consider he was terrible until June. He is one of our best players.

While I buy that he is one of our better players I'm not buying the sentence in bold letters. It was the same Elijah Dukes that was stinking it up until June so the numbers are what thet are.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #2213 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:27:23 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on January 16, 2009, 02:08:20 pm

I've read this a few times on here. Do some of you really feel there is a chance they would send Dukes to AAA?

He makes the most sense. He's got the options available from what I understand.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #2214 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:27:53 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 16, 2009, 02:26:07 pm

You said that you think they will be better this season so I don't know why they would be a "freaking joke" for the next couple of years.

We may be "better" (which I hope) but what he's saying is we still might not look attractive and according to some peoples logic here, we won't get any better players since were not a place to come too. So why not make ourselves even better by grabbing a great hitter who can increase that attractiveness with the help of the players we currently have? Just waht I got out of it.

spidernat · « **Reply #2215 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:28:12 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 16, 2009, 02:26:07 pm

You said that you think they will be better this season so I don't know why they would be a "freaking joke" for the next couple of years.

I hope we have a good season with the players we got and win 80 or so games.

Being better than last year's Nats is not saying a whole lot.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2216 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:28:13 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on January 16, 2009, 02:20:14 pm

you are full of it, and you know it.

we've spend countless posts in multiple threads discussing other options, from trading to signing other OF Bats and moving Willingham to 1B.

Dunn is blocking your vision, otherwise you wouldn't be saying such nonsense.

I want to hear yours. Ready GO!

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #2217 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:28:38 pm »

Look, we're more than likely not going to win the world series next season, even if we were to aquire Dunn. I'm hoping that we show some noticable improvement. That gives us something to build on for the future. Do I think signing Dunn makes us a better team? Hell yes. Do I support signing him to a long term contract? No. If we can get him cheap for a couple of years...let's do it. I don't know how anyone can argue that Dunn won't make this team better.

ronnynat · « **Reply #2218 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:28:47 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on January 16, 2009, 02:25:23 pm

I forgot he was awful in May. Like, he was really awful. He just became a "bonafide beast" though. Hopefully he didn't get lucky.

I think we should expect at least one bad month out of both Milledge and Dukes (and all other young non-superstars in the league).

R-Zim#11 · « **Reply #2219 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:29:10 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 16, 2009, 02:10:12 pm

Who's resigned to losing? Certainly not I. I have high hopes for this organization in 2009.

I am resigned to the fact that for every second they talk about the Nats, ESPN will devote an hour to each the Red Sox and Yankees. Really, we lost 102 games last year. That isn't corrected on one off-season. I'm being more realistic. 70-75 wins is what I am predicting.

The Nats are very young. I am very excited about this up coming season. I am looking forward to the development of the young kids on the ML roster. I am looking forward to our very-young pitching staff, incl. Double-N. I am looking forward to watching the ever younger kids develop in the minors. I am looking forward to Strasburg. I am looking forward to the draft in general. There is a lot, a lot of hope.

MrMadison · « **Reply #2220 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:30:11 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on January 16, 2009, 02:28:13 pm

I want to hear yours. Ready GO!

sign Bobby Abreu for a 1 year deal.

move Willingham to 1B if Nick gets injured.

let Milledge and Dukes compete for CF with the loser being the 4th Ofer.

Willingham, Dukes/Milledge, Abreu. in the outfield.

when Nick goes down, Milledge, Dukes, Abreu in the OF with Kearns or Maxwell as the 4th.

your turn.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #2221 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:31:58 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on January 16, 2009, 02:30:11 pm

sign Bobby Abreu for a 1 or 2 year deal.

move Willingham to 1B if Nick gets injured.

your turn.

I'll answer:

SIGN ADAM DUNN.

O.k., your turn again.

BerkeleyNat · « **Reply #2222 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:32:34 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on January 16, 2009, 02:28:47 pm

I think we should expect at least one bad month out of both Milledge and Dukes (and all other young non-superstars in the league).

The inevitable growing pains.

blue911 · « **Reply #2223 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:32:54 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on January 16, 2009, 02:28:47 pm

I think we should expect at least one bad month out of both Milledge and Dukes (and all other young non-superstars in the league).

I'll give a brand new twenty dollar bill to whoever puts Ryan Zimmerman on the DL until May.

MrMadison · « **Reply #2224 on:** January 16, 2009, 02:33:19 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on January 16, 2009, 02:30:11 pm

sign Bobby Abreu for a 1 year deal.

move Willingham to 1B if Nick gets injured.

let Milledge and Dukes compete for CF with the loser being the 4th Ofer.

Willingham, Dukes/Milledge, Abreu. in the outfield.

when Nick goes down, Milledge, Dukes, Abreu in the OF with Kearns or Maxwell as the 4th.

your turn.

I'd just like to mention that if you take off your Dunnglasses while looking back through the previous 3 threads of discussion, Signing Abreu is one of the many alternatives that was discussed in detail..many times.

another Alternative that was discussed in detail was trying to trade for Prince Fielder, and what it would possibly take to get him.