Author Topic: Tex and the Nats... (Read 168736 times)

MrMadison · « **Reply #3725 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:51:48 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:50:30 pm

I don't think anyone is looking for Dunn to play here 4-5 years. I would only like to see him here for 2 years max.

I'd go 3.

but not more than that.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3726 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:52:28 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:50:30 pm

I don't think anyone is looking for Dunn to play here 4-5 years. I would only like to see him here for 2 years max.

That's not going to happen. He is going to get at least 3 years at a minimum and more likely 4-5 years.

Dunn would be a mistake. I could almost live with a 2 year deal but I just don't see that happening.

UMDNats · « **Reply #3727 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:52:29 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:51:21 pm

You certainly do, considering you actually posted the numbers.

theres a reason im a journalism major

spidernat · « **Reply #3728 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:53:19 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on December 23, 2008, 03:52:29 pm

theres a reason im a journalism major

I'd like to be in charge of your finances.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #3729 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:53:38 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on December 23, 2008, 03:52:29 pm

theres a reason im a journalism major

Your spelling and punctuation?

Natskins · « **Reply #3730 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:53:43 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 03:34:22 pm

If the Nationals didn't exist I would watch no baseball.

At this point I pretty much agree with this comment. Who the hell would I even root for? Actually, I take it back. I might become a Tampa Bay Rays fan if there no Nats. I like the underdog-made-good story, and I'd love to root for them against the Yanks, Sox and O's. Hell, they're my second favorite team now.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #3731 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:54:47 pm »

Quote from: cletusvandamme on December 23, 2008, 03:49:11 pm

At least Marrero isn't blocked anymore!

haha oh great the plan is still alive!

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #3732 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:55:02 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:50:30 pm

I don't think anyone is looking for Dunn to play here 4-5 years. I would only like to see him here for 2 years max.

I'd be ok with 2 years but I don't think he signs for that short a contract.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #3733 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:55:33 pm »

freak it. I'm going to take a nap.

UMDNats · « **Reply #3734 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:55:35 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on December 23, 2008, 03:53:38 pm

Your spelling and punctuation?

hey. on the internets i can post how i want

spidernat · « **Reply #3735 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:55:42 pm »

Quote from: Natskins on December 23, 2008, 03:53:43 pm

I like the underdog-made-good story,

If that's the case then you should have no beef with what happened today. This fuels your affinity for the underdog since your team remains the underdog. Personally I prefer to just freaking win.

DCFan · « **Reply #3736 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:56:16 pm »

First Larkin and now Tex. Some Christmas this is turning out to be.

MrMadison · « **Reply #3737 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:56:31 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 03:49:09 pm

I'll also remember what all of these Dunn worshippers are saying now when he strikes out 200 times and makes Dmitri Young look like a gold glove first baseman.

40 HRs + 25 doubles + 200 strikeouts >>>> 1 HR, 5 doubles, 30 strikeouts and 300 ground ball outs.

but I gather you'd rather have the Casto/Belliard combo at 1B for another season because striking out is the ABSOLUTE WORST THING YOU CAN EVER DO at the plate. being a ground ball machine is much, much, much better than striking out a lot, right?

personally, I'd rather improve and have a better offense than the one we had last season that was among the worst offenses in baseball.

I don't care who it is. it could be Dunn, it could be some random guy off the street. as long as what we have going into the season is better than what we had last season. I guess to some folks, this sort of thing doesn't matter. we could have the worst offense in baseball again next year, but it'll be fine because at least we won't have Adam Dunn striking out 200 times in our lineup, right?

that's all I'm saying.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3738 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:57:26 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:55:42 pm

If that's the case then you should have no beef with what happened today. This fuels your affinity for the underdog since your team remains the underdog. Personally I prefer to just freaking win.

It's gotta be much sweeter winning like the Rays did (and how we are trying to win) than to buy a Championship like the Yankees.

Building through your minor league system and draft > Redskins and Yankees trying to buy Championships

zoom · « **Reply #3739 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:59:33 pm »

I am not a huge Dunn fan. I'd rather see the Nats make an honest go at signing Zim to an extension .Take care of your own and show some semblance of better things in the future.

I'd try to pluck Fuentes from the Angels.

They tried with Tex and got sand kicked in their face. this could be a much bigger hit to the players than us (fans).

hammondsnats · « **Reply #3740 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:59:44 pm »

Sportsfan, look Dunn k's a lot and doesn't play great defense, that's why it was essential to get Teixeira ... but now we have to settle for the second tier free agents. Really missed a chance of having a phenomenal offseason.

I'm very down right now, nothing right now is making me feel optimistic about this upcoming season.

We're talking more about Dunn over in the Plan "B" thread if others want to take part in what we should now.

Natskins · « **Reply #3741 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:00:22 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 03:55:42 pm

If that's the case then you should have no beef with what happened today. This fuels your affinity for the underdog since your team remains the underdog. Personally I prefer to just freaking win.

I think it would have been a great underdog story if we had landed him, considering no one outside of DC gave us a chance to get him. And we'd still be an underdog, because everyone claims we'd still suck even with Tex.

spidernat · « **Reply #3742 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:00:46 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 03:57:26 pm

It's gotta be much sweeter winning like the Rays did (and how we are trying to win) than to buy a Championship like the Yankees.

Building through your minor league system and draft > Redskins and Yankees trying to buy Championships

Nope. The rings only say Champions. The standings don't reflect that bullcrap. Winning is winning.

Quote from: MrMadison on December 23, 2008, 03:56:31 pm

but I gather you'd rather have the Casto/Belliard combo at 1B for another season because striking out is the ABSOLUTE WORST THING YOU CAN EVER DO at the plate. being a ground ball machine is much, much, much better than striking out a lot, right?

sportsfan should love Dunn because striking out requires taking pitches and working the count.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3743 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:00:47 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on December 23, 2008, 03:56:31 pm

personally, I'd rather improve and have a better offense than the one we had last season that was among the worst offenses in baseball.

that's all I'm saying.

But at what cost?

We definitely need a legit 1B-man, I agree, but just because Dunn is available doesn't mean we should jump on him. I really don't know who we could acquire. Tough spot for the Nationals. They can't afford to stick with NJ and Dmitri but it also doesn't make much sense to ink Dunn to a long-term deal.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #3744 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:00:58 pm »

freaking nag

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3745 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:01:30 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on December 23, 2008, 03:59:44 pm

Sportsfan, look Dunn k's a lot and doesn't play great defense, that's why it was essential to get Teixeira ... but now we have to settle for the second tier free agents. Really missed a chance of having a phenomenal offseason.

I'm very down right now, nothing right now is making me feel optimistic about this upcoming season.

We're talking more about Dunn over in the Plan "B" thread if others want to take part in what we should now.

So you think we should settle for an inferior player (Dunn) just because we didn't get that overpaid nag Teixeria?

spidernat · « **Reply #3746 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:02:10 pm »

Quote from: zoom on December 23, 2008, 03:59:33 pm

I'd rather see the Nats make an honest go at signing Zim to an extension .

WTF would that accomplish?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #3747 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:02:25 pm »

Quote from: zoom on December 23, 2008, 03:59:33 pm

I am not a huge Dunn fan. I'd rather see the Nats make an honest go at signing Zim to an extension .Take care of your own and show some semblance of better things in the future.

I'd try to pluck Fuentes from the Angels.

They tried with Tex and got sand kicked in their face. this could be a much bigger hit to the players than us (fans).

You really think we should overpay for a mediocre closer and spend money on a guy that we already control for years? Hello, 120 losses.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #3748 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:02:28 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 03:57:26 pm

It's gotta be much sweeter winning like the Rays did (and how we are trying to win) than to buy a Championship like the Yankees.

Building through your minor league system and draft > Redskins and Yankees trying to buy Championships

The problem with that is you take the risk of losing your fan base. I'm on board with building through youngsters, but you can't wait around forever. Remember this city has already lost a team twice. Last year we didn't exactly set records for ticket sales at a brand new ballpark.

If you don't get anyone this offseason, get ready for another 100 loss season. I hate to be sound like a crappy broken record, but it's true. Not saying Dunn will take us to the playoffs, but he'll help fill a hole and win us more games for this season.

Natskins · « **Reply #3749 on:** December 23, 2008, 04:02:49 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 03:57:26 pm

Building through your minor league system and draft > Redskins and Yankees trying to buy Championships

You really can't compare the Skins to the Yankees. There's a salary cap in football. Any NFL team could do exactly what the Skins do if they wanted to. But most of them don't, because the formula hasn't proven to be successful.

In baseball, you could have one team with a $20 million payroll, and another with a $220 million payroll. Not so in football.