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Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2350 on: December 18, 2008, 07:30:54 pm »
1) Yeah, but at this point it appears he's only negotiating with one team...also known as dotting I's and crossing T's.

2) Agreed, and hopefully they use a chunk of the cash they had set aside for Tex to fill some holes.

1) He does have T's and I's in his last name.

2) If they don't go out and get at least TWO stud major league free agents I'm not renewing my season tickets and I'll bash the Lerners more than ever before  8)

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2351 on: December 18, 2008, 07:31:52 pm »

Definitely this.
Yes, they have to spend some money and I believe they will sign at least a significant player or two.

Offline spidernat

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2352 on: December 18, 2008, 07:34:18 pm »
Yes, they have to spend some money and I believe they will sign at least a significant player or two.

Yeah now they can afford to re-sign Vindicator, Perez and throw in a couple of bums the likes of Belliard and Estrada and confidently say they tried.  :?

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2353 on: December 18, 2008, 07:37:47 pm »
Yeah now they can afford to re-sign Vindicator, Perez and throw in a couple of bums the likes of Belliard and Estrada and confidently say they tried.  :?
If they do that, you will have one less MASN viewer.
I've gave them their honeymoon period. They better make some major moves and fast.

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2354 on: December 18, 2008, 07:39:37 pm »
I'll be satisfied if we get Dunn and another good free agent (not necessarily a stud, but at least someone in the 7-8M per year range)

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2355 on: December 18, 2008, 07:42:55 pm »
Imagine how many little kids would be wearing Mark Teixeira jerseys. 

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2356 on: December 18, 2008, 07:46:57 pm »
Is this the longest thread ever in the Nationals section of this forum?

Offline Natskins

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2357 on: December 18, 2008, 07:50:23 pm »
It was hard to see it at the time, and I didn't want to believe it...but the fact is the organization will have to prove itself over time to be stable and competitive before an elite-level free agent hitches his wagon to the Nats.

For all Tex knows, the Lerners would sign him for 8 years and then seal up their wallets for the foreseeable future. We have no established track record for him to place his trust in the organization.

It sucks, but it's the truth. The good news is, if the organization is truly dedicated to improving itself and spends some money this offseason...as the team gets better the more attractive DC will become to other players.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2358 on: December 18, 2008, 07:54:02 pm »
Is this the longest thread ever in the Nationals section of this forum?
Yep.

The 2008 Washington Redskins Thread has the most posts of any thread on WNFF. The Presidential Election thread is second and this thread is third.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2359 on: December 18, 2008, 07:57:25 pm »
It was hard to see it at the time, and I didn't want to believe it...but the fact is the organization will have to prove itself over time to be stable and competitive before an elite-level free agent hitches his wagon to the Nats.

For all Tex knows, the Lerners would sign him for 8 years and then seal up their wallets for the foreseeable future. We have no established track record for him to place his trust in the organization.

It sucks, but it's the truth. The good news is, if the organization is truly dedicated to improving itself and spends some money this offseason...as the team gets better the more attractive DC will become to other players.

Yeah i get that, but it really sucks because as i posted earlier "Teix is the complete package.  Solid all around hitter, great glove, positive image, young, hometown kid ... I can keep it going."

Who knows when the next one will come by and be available?  Especially if we keep up this losing (which not to be a sportsfan, but i don't see that changing any time soon)

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2360 on: December 18, 2008, 08:04:01 pm »
148 strikeouts < 164 strikeouts. Dukes strikeout numbers will decline as he matures as a hitter and flourishes into the most feared hitter in baseball.

i look forward to coming back and comparing their stats when Dukes hits 40+ homers, makes his all-star debut, is the hr derby champ, breakout player of the yr, all while batting .280+, stealing bases, and playing stellar defense (three things Dunn could never dream of doing). i would never even compare the two anyways because they are totally different players. one is the complete package and a 5-tool force, and the other is a 1 tool overrated bum. Dukes is superior to Dunn as a baseball player.

So ridiculous. I mean really.

He would make a lot more double plays, meaning MORE TOTAL OUTS IN THE COURSE OF A SEASON WOULD BE HIS FAULT. :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:

If you are a badass, it's ok to cause more outs and score less runs than a tall quiet country guy. WTF?

Offline Natskins

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2361 on: December 18, 2008, 08:04:08 pm »
Yeah i get that, but it really sucks because as i posted earlier "Teix is the complete package.  Solid all around hitter, great glove, positive image, young, hometown kid ... I can keep it going."

Who knows when the next one will come by and be available?  Especially if we keep up this losing (which not to be a sportsfan, but i don't see that changing any time soon)

I know, man. It sucks. I really started to believe we were getting him. But now that we know the deal, I'm starting to be honest with myself about the situation.

We just have to take the team's aggressiveness on this as a positive sign. We have plenty of holes to fill, so let's hope they get going on Plan B.

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2362 on: December 18, 2008, 08:05:14 pm »
'm glad we don't have all that money tied up in one guy. If he got hit by a train or something, this team would have been screwed. Let Boston deal with it. Even A-Rod, arguably the best player of all time, is never good enough to earn that money in most people's eyes.
Sign Dunn and trade for another starter and sign Juan Cruz and I'll be a happy man. We're pretty set for a decent '09 at that point. Hell, sign Zaun as a backup catcher. He's a really good player.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2363 on: December 18, 2008, 08:09:20 pm »
OH is starting to get really good.
I can only imagine when Tex makes it official

Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2364 on: December 18, 2008, 08:15:36 pm »
Still not getting crap twisted, I wont believe until its true.

If hes signed, throw that amount of money towards 2+ free agents, lets fill in the missing pieces (First, Second, Relievers, Starters!?)

Offline xposbrad

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2365 on: December 18, 2008, 08:17:50 pm »
I'll try this once only. Forget OBP, lets go back 30 years in terms of stats.

Take batting average. Ted Williams was the last guy to hit .400. That means, for each plate appearance that was a hit or an out, Williams got out 6 out of 10 times. Some were strikeouts, pop ups, foul tips, grounders, double plays. Baseball is a game of failure. Out of 500 plate appearances, that's 300 outs that aren't sacrifices. If 160 of them are strikeouts, frankly, who gives a crap. They don't advance runners, but they aren't DP's either.

The best thing you can do is fail the right way. If you hit a sac fly or a sac bunt, that's a productive failure, so it doesn't count against your average (again, stats 30 years ago).

If you strike out with bases loaded, it's a hell of a lot better than a double play with 1 out. It's the same as a pop up with 2 outs. You have to take your understanding beyond the 3rd grade level.

One modification:

Hitting 4th and walking 100 times, no way Dunn gets to 500 appearances, so strikeouts are most of his outs.

The good old saying is put the ball in play, you never know what will happen. Fielding error, throwing error, a bobble. I'm sorry but there's no one in professional baseball who will tell you it's better to K than put the ball in play regardless of the chance of a DP. People who argue that a K is better than a ball in play are the people who've never played ball before.

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2366 on: December 18, 2008, 08:21:14 pm »
lolz the people on OH still think they can get him

Offline xposbrad

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2367 on: December 18, 2008, 08:27:34 pm »
Yeah i get that, but it really sucks because as i posted earlier "Teix is the complete package.  Solid all around hitter, great glove, positive image, young, hometown kid ... I can keep it going."

Who knows when the next one will come by and be available?  Especially if we keep up this losing (which not to be a sportsfan, but i don't see that changing any time soon)

Not to mention, how often will the Yanks not even make an offer to such a player if another one became available.

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2368 on: December 18, 2008, 08:28:57 pm »
The good old saying is put the ball in play, you never know what will happen. Fielding error, throwing error, a bobble. I'm sorry but there's no one in professional baseball who will tell you it's better to K than put the ball in play regardless of the chance of a DP. People who argue that a K is better than a ball in play are the people who've never played ball before.

You can do a statistical study of the chance of a groundout turning into a fielding error. In a bases loaded, 1 out situation, you do NOT want the ball on the ground.

The point is that he's not a bad player because he strikes out a lot. Juan Pierre is a bad player because all he ever does is hit bloop singles and strike out.

The good old saying sounds like Joe Morgan.

Offline Nando03

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2369 on: December 18, 2008, 08:29:23 pm »
I was going to buy a Tex jersey right away. lol

Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2370 on: December 18, 2008, 08:30:04 pm »
If we signed Tex, would that day mark the most members you think? Or is the Zimmerman one still hold the crown?

The day we make a playoff race / playoffs is the day itll beat the Zimmerman day.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2371 on: December 18, 2008, 08:30:23 pm »
I was going to buy a Tex jersey right away. lol

I was thinking of buying an away or red tex jersey

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2372 on: December 18, 2008, 08:31:14 pm »
Oh well, as a Nats fan you had to know this was coming. Hopefully we get Dunn, but the last thing I want to see is the FO go out and get a bunch of over the hill FAs to make up for it. For those of you clamoring for two 'stud free agents', here's a challenge, name two stud unsigned free agents?

Offline Nando03

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2373 on: December 18, 2008, 08:31:22 pm »
I was thinking of buying an away or red tex jersey

I think by the time Regular Season hit I might have had all three!

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2374 on: December 18, 2008, 08:32:33 pm »
You can do a statistical study of the chance of a groundout turning into a fielding error. In a bases loaded, 1 out situation, you do NOT want the ball on the ground.

The point is that he's not a bad player because he strikes out a lot. Juan Pierre is a bad player because all he ever does is hit bloop singles and strike out.
The good old saying sounds like Joe Morgan.
:rant: