Author Topic: Tex and the Nats... (Read 170801 times)

hammondsnats · « **Reply #200 on:** November 18, 2008, 12:38:51 pm »

um, what does any of this have to do with mark teixeira? (haha)

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #201 on:** November 18, 2008, 12:42:07 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 18, 2008, 12:38:51 pm

um, what does any of this have to do with mark teixeira? (haha)

They are trying to find out if Tex will fall under Obama's tax cuts.

tomterp · « **Reply #202 on:** November 18, 2008, 02:42:22 pm »

Dave Sheinin puts a pessimistic spin on the possible offer the Nats may make for Tex.

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Kasten on Teixeira Reports: Not So Fast
Nationals President Stan Kasten said today that reports -- including ours -- of a significant and imminent offer to free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira are highly premature, saying, "You're way ahead of us here."

While Kasten, as is typical, neither confirmed nor denied the Nationals' intentions regarding Teixeira -- or any other player, for that matter -- he felt compelled to quell the speculation that the Nationals, as we wrote last week, are preparing a "competitive" offer to Teixeira.

"I don't want people to have unrealistic expectations," Kasten said.

He seemed particularly perturbed that media and fans might interpret an offer to Teixeira as a ploy to gain credibility with the team's fan base.

My own take: The Nationals are still formulating the structure of the offer they plan to make to Teixeira. However, they also know they cannot compete with the likes of the Yankees, Red Sox and/or Angels when it comes to dollar figures. So they would like to get a better sense of Teixeira's true market before they make their pitch.

UpperDec · « **Reply #203 on:** November 18, 2008, 02:58:43 pm »

Not optomistic at all about the Nats going hard after Tex. I was always skeptical about their efforts to go after him and now even more so. I'm not too uptight about it as I think Tex will go to a big market winning team (Anges/Red Sox), but would like to see the Nats start competing for somebody who will be long-term part of this team.

spidernat · « **Reply #204 on:** November 18, 2008, 03:28:33 pm »

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He seemed particularly perturbed that media and fans might interpret an offer to Teixeira as a ploy to gain credibility with the team's fan base.

Maybe the snake oil salesman knows we're on to him.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #205 on:** November 18, 2008, 03:53:57 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on November 18, 2008, 02:42:22 pm

Dave Sheinin puts a pessimistic spin on the possible offer the Nats may make for Tex.

Thank you. Hopefully that will shut up these daydreamers on here that keep going on and on about us actually having a chance at Tex.

DCFan · « **Reply #206 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:14:32 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on November 18, 2008, 03:53:57 pm

Thank you. Hopefully that will shut up these daydreamers on here that keep going on and on about us actually having a chance at Tex.

Sad but true.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #207 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:14:45 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on November 18, 2008, 03:53:57 pm

Thank you. Hopefully that will shut up these daydreamers on here that keep going on and on about us actually having a chance at Tex.

Dude YOU shut up. Some people on here are trying to remain optimistic. Yeah we all know the Lerners are cheaper than cheap and we won't get him, but let us dream for now.

houston-nat · « **Reply #208 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:24:31 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 18, 2008, 04:14:45 pm

Dude YOU shut up. Some people on here are trying to remain optimistic. Yeah we all know the Lerners are cheaper than cheap and we won't get him, but let us dream for now.

Yeah, come on. Dreams are meant to be crushed!

spidernat · « **Reply #209 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:34:49 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 18, 2008, 04:14:45 pm

Dude YOU shut up. Some people on here are trying to remain optimistic. Yeah we all know the Lerners are cheaper than cheap and we won't get him, but let us dream for now.

Reminds me of that scene in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory where the grandfather refuses to wake up Charlie to let him know that all the golden tickets have been found so the kid can have "one more dream" before they break his heart at not having a shot at finding a golden ticket.

Hang in there hammonds, you'll get your golden ticket.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #210 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:39:12 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on November 18, 2008, 04:34:49 pm

Reminds me of that scene in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory where the grandfather refuses to wake up Charlie to let him know that all the golden tickets have been found so the kid can have "one more dream" before they break his heart at not having a shot at finding a golden ticket.

Hang in there hammonds, you'll get your golden ticket.

Don't drink the flying soda if you have a date that night.

spidernat · « **Reply #211 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:42:40 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on November 18, 2008, 04:39:12 pm

Don't drink the flying soda if you have a date that night.

Especially if you can't burp and have only one way of releasing gas.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #212 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:45:30 pm »

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #213 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:50:04 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 18, 2008, 04:14:45 pm

Dude YOU shut up. Some people on here are trying to remain optimistic. Yeah we all know the Lerners are cheaper than cheap and we won't get him, but let us dream for now.

I can be as optimistic as anybody if there is something to be optimistic about but in this case it is just senseless. Kasten finally put all of this bullcrap to rest today with his comments. We are not in the running for Teixeira and probably never were in the first place.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #214 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:53:38 pm »

I think this also proves that Kasten and the Nats FO do not read the papers considering these Tex rumors have been going on for a week and they are only just now saying, "Whoa there, wait a minute..."

spidernat · « **Reply #215 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:58:38 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on November 18, 2008, 04:50:04 pm

I can be as optimistic as anybody if there is something to be optimistic about but in this case it is just senseless.

sportsfan you now you're going to get ripped for this fictional statement.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #216 on:** November 18, 2008, 05:04:40 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on November 18, 2008, 04:58:38 pm

sportsfan you now you're going to get ripped for this fictional statement.

I don't think it's fictional. Heck, almost every year I predict for them to win like 85+ games and I always rip on the pundits for predicting low loss totals for the Nats.

I'm very optimistic regarding our Minor League system and several of our players. I think we'll eventually compete but until the Lerners open up the wallets it will be rough.

spidernat · « **Reply #217 on:** November 18, 2008, 05:08:19 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on November 18, 2008, 05:04:40 pm

I'm very optimistic regarding our Minor League system and several of our players.

Spoken like a true Kasten disciple.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #218 on:** November 18, 2008, 05:18:00 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on November 18, 2008, 05:08:19 pm

Spoken like a true Kasten disciple.

I don't think I'm a Kasten disciple but I'm not a Kasten hater either. I think time will tell whether Kasten is the real deal or not.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #219 on:** November 18, 2008, 05:33:37 pm »

Nah sportsfan your two faced lol. You say your optimistic but your as much as a daydreamer as the rest of us. Saying Bernadinas going to be the starting OF this year and that he is a "power" hitter is on the same fringe as saying were going to get Tex.

Its the offseason, rumors can go both ways. Id rather hope it goes for the best and not hang my head down bashing the crap out of us and ignoring all signs of light.

and for the record, i would like Bernadina to be a great outfielder, but im not on the same path your on.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #220 on:** November 18, 2008, 06:32:36 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on November 18, 2008, 05:33:37 pm

Nah sportsfan your two faced lol. You say your optimistic but your as much as a daydreamer as the rest of us. Saying Bernadinas going to be the starting OF this year and that he is a "power" hitter is on the same fringe as saying were going to get Tex.

Its the offseason, rumors can go both ways. Id rather hope it goes for the best and not hang my head down bashing the crap out of us and ignoring all signs of light.

and for the record, i would like Bernadina to be a great outfielder, but im not on the same path your on.

Bernadina is not a power hitter but he has pop unlike Taveras, Nook, etc. Bernadina will likely not be our Starting OFer and that is only because we have several other players ahead of him on the totem pole. I just think Bernadina would excel playing every day up here. Is it really that ludicrous to think that considering the numbers he put up last year in AA/AAA? I think people just don't like him because the first time he got called up he went like 1/40 and looked bad. That's weak.

What signs of light? We are not going after Teixeira per Kasten and we probably never were. All of that crap was just baseless rumors. Until I see something substantial proving otherwise I will continue go by what is factual.

houston-nat · « **Reply #221 on:** November 18, 2008, 06:53:51 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on November 18, 2008, 05:33:37 pm

Nah sportsfan your two faced lol. You say your optimistic but your as much as a daydreamer as the rest of us. Saying Bernadinas going to be the starting OF this year and that he is a "power" hitter is on the same fringe as saying were going to get Tex.

More like the same fringe as saying we are going to get Sabathia.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #222 on:** November 18, 2008, 06:56:53 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on November 18, 2008, 06:53:51 pm

More like the same fringe as saying we are going to get Sabathia.

nobody ever said anything about us going after CC. The thing is there is word that we are prepared to offer Teixeira a contract and league sources/media know we are taking an interest to MT. While Kasten didn't say directly we were involved in the sweepstakes, he certainly didn't deny it. He did what any good front office member would do and not show our hand.

Do I think we're going to get Teixeira? No our owners are cheap dicks. But at the same time for now we're rumored to be involved in the sweepstakes and it's fun to dream. Just like Sportsfan dreams of Bernadina being a major contributor. Just like i dream of a Nats-O's world series. Just like spidernat dreams of ... spiders.

houston-nat · « **Reply #223 on:** November 18, 2008, 07:02:29 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 18, 2008, 06:56:53 pm

nobody ever said anything about us going after CC. The thing is there is word that we are prepared to offer Teixeira a contract and league sources/media know we are taking an interest to MT. While Kasten didn't say directly we were involved in the sweepstakes, he certainly didn't deny it. He did what any good front office member would do and not show our hand.

The other thing is, this is Washington D.C. So what he is saying in the interview is the equivalent of "We must leave all options on the table." Or, "I do not plan to run for President in four years." Or, "This thing is a slam dunk." Or, "I did not have sex with Debbi Taylor."

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #224 on:** November 18, 2008, 07:49:29 pm »

@ Kool Aid drinkers criticizing sportsfan for wanting to be a realist

Basically, we shouldn't trust any of these "rumors" coming from sports writers. Between this and Rosenthal's laughable rumor that the Padres were going to trade Peavy to the Yankees, which was immediately squashed by Kevin Towers himself, there's no reason to give any credence to these rumors without direct quotes from key sources.