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Offline sportsfan882

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Perez to miss next start
« on: June 04, 2008, 05:26:04 am »
Blessing in disguise. Hopefully he misses more than just *1* start.

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In another injury blow for the Nationals, manager Manny Acta revealed after Tuesday's game that left-handed starter Odalis Perez left the Nationals' 6-1 loss to St. Louis after only three innings because of tendinitis in his left shoulder. Acta said Perez will miss his next start because of the injury, and Acta didn't name a possible replacement starter.

"It's like something burning," Perez said, describing the pain that he said has been bothering him for three to four starts.


Perez said Tuesday that he simply couldn't go on after the third inning, and he told Acta he needed to come out of the game. Jesus Colome came on in relief just before the first of two lengthy rain delays.

"I've been battling, but today, I couldn't hold it," Perez said. The southpaw added that a team doctor confirmed that it was only tendinitis, saying that he felt no discomfort while the doctor was running other tests on the arm and shoulder.

Acta first revealed the injury, saying it had not bothered Perez to the point where he couldn't pitch until tonight.

"Maybe three starts ago or something [it bothered him] ... but it wasn't anything serious that night," Acta said.

Perez has been one of the veteran anchors of the Nationals' pitching staff this year, though his numbers haven't been as impressive as some of his younger counterparts in the rotation. The Opening Night starter is 2-5 with a 4.09 ERA.

Perez and Acta both originally said the lefty would miss his next start. However, Perez backed off that comment later, saying he would see how his shoulder responds to treatment.

"I don't know," Perez said. "We'll see how it reacts on Thursday or Friday."

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 05:34:40 am »

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 08:02:41 am »
He and Hill need an extended DL stay while we give Mock and Clippard a look at the ML level.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 08:55:37 am »
It's too bad Perez is hurting, he was actually pitching fairly well for us.  Not that I'm opposed to getting a look at Mock and / or Clippard, but we need fewer injuries, not more.

Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 09:30:10 am »
This is what happens when your hurt and you continue to tell yourself your not or your thrown out there: crappy play and losses. Jesus, I wish this team would stop doing that.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 09:34:01 am »
This is what happens when your hurt and you continue to tell yourself your not or your thrown out there: crappy play and losses. Jesus, I wish this team would stop doing that.

I agree, but that's the major league baseball culture, nothing unique to Washington.  Every player is playing with aches and pains, strains or other minor injuries pretty much all the time.  It's hard to know exactly when that injury is really degrading performance enough to be hurting the team.

Often, a good player playing through pain (Pujols, for example, who needs Tommy John surgery) is better than a healthy backup.  Even at well less than 100%, he's better than anything else they've got.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 10:45:45 am »
Often, a good player playing through pain (Pujols, for example, who needs Tommy John surgery) is better than a healthy backup.  Even at well less than 100%, he's better than anything else they've got.

I'm pretty out of the loop - where'd you hear that?

Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 11:09:24 am »
I'm pretty out of the loop - where'd you hear that?

I agree. That sounds like a fantastic fantasy, but a player that isn't giving 100% for any reason should not be out there, especially if injured.

If maybe these guys approached a trainer or conditioner (like we have those right?) when that pain FIRST hits rather than waiting three to four weeks (or years in the case of Hill) to see if it gets better, then maybe that pain wouldn't develop into a DL stint. I mean, who are these players? Do they all have the knowledge and experience to diagnosis themselves?

I can see the TV pilot now:

"Dmitri's Anatomy"

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 11:47:52 am »
I'm pretty out of the loop - where'd you hear that?

This has been known since the start of the season. He said he would rather delay the surgery and play with it until it was no longer possible so that he wouldn't miss the entire season.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 12:17:17 pm »
I agree, but that's the major league baseball culture, nothing unique to Washington.  Every player is playing with aches and pains, strains or other minor injuries pretty much all the time.  It's hard to know exactly when that injury is really degrading performance enough to be hurting the team.

Often, a good player playing through pain (Pujols, for example, who needs Tommy John surgery) is better than a healthy backup.  Even at well less than 100%, he's better than anything else they've got.

Didn't Nolan Ryan put off elbow surgery when he was in his 40's? He eventually tore the tendon in his elbow which caused his retirement.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 03:47:26 pm »
This is a good thing.  Perez is garbage.  Lets get a look at a youngster. 

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 08:34:22 pm »
Looks like Tyler Clippard will be the pitcher in Perez's place Sunday.  He only pitched two quick innings tonight in anticipation of him being called up for a Sunday start.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 09:25:25 pm »
Looks like Tyler Clippard will be the pitcher in Perez's place Sunday.  He only pitched two quick innings tonight in anticipation of him being called up for a Sunday start.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 10:11:20 pm »
Looks like Tyler Clippard will be the pitcher in Perez's place Sunday.  He only pitched two quick innings tonight in anticipation of him being called up for a Sunday start.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 10:28:27 pm »
Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead link=topic=8643.msg231689#msg231689 date=1212592164agree. Tha
If maybe these guys approached a trainer or conditioner (like we have those right?) when that pain FIRST hits rather than waiting three to four weeks (or years in the case of Hill) to see if it gets better, then maybe that pain wouldn't develop into a DL stint. I mean, who are these players? Do they all have the knowledge and experience to diagnosis themselves?





I heard something Tuesday that I found unbelievable.I thought Lee Kuntz was a physical therapist. It turns out that he is a trainer and the Nationals have a nationwide search underway to find a therapist to properly work on a player when they immediately get hurt. I mentioned Youngs 'miraculous " recovery due to Taitianas magic hands and I was laughed at. It seems that his type of injury should have been treated the way she worked with the hip flexor immediately and any first year PT student should have known what to do. Instead they were ready to send him to the Mayo after he was seen by some specialist here and in Fla. Why they haven't secured the services of a PT by now is the low salary they are offering. I can't believe they wouldn't spend 100,000 to protect players earning 60 mil collectively.

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 10:40:16 pm »
Looks like Tyler Clippard will be the pitcher in Perez's place Sunday.  He only pitched two quick innings tonight in anticipation of him being called up for a Sunday start.

Time to get those #19 shirts ready again....sans the name of one Ryan Church

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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 04:21:02 pm »
From Baseball Prospectus:

STAT OF THE DAY

Bottom 5 2008 NL Rotations, by SNLVAR

Team, SNLVAR

Pittsburgh Pirates, 2.2
Colorado Rockies, 2.3
Florida Marlins, 2.4
Houston Astros, 4.3
Philadelphia Phillies, 4.5




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Re: Perez to miss next start
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 06:40:07 pm »
Told you our rotation was fine. It's at worst 3rd in our division :D