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Offline sportsfan882

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Milledge is struggling
« on: May 07, 2008, 11:12:37 pm »
It might be a little early to call him a bust but there's no way this guy is going to be a long-term outfielder for us.  He is just a terrible overall baseball player. He has no instincts in the field and he has no clue what he is doing at the plate.   >:(

Offline LetsGoNats

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 11:14:22 pm »
Yeah, I haven't been too impressed.  His defense is light years behind Nook Logan and his offense isn't all that much better than Nooks.  Plus he seems like a punk.

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 11:18:00 pm »
I wonder if I can get a refund at the team store for my t-shirt. :?

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 11:19:33 pm »
Haha. It's WAY too early to be saying crap like this. Y'all were praising him just a few weeks ago. Give the guy time. In no way would I call him "awful" at this point.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 11:20:54 pm »
Haha. It's WAY too early to be saying crap like this. Y'all were praising him just a few weeks ago. Give the guy time. In no way would I call him "awful" at this point.
I call them like I see them.  The only thing he is consistent at is flailing away at breaking balls out of the strike zone and misreading balls in the outfield.  He has no power, no speed, no instincts. 

Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 11:22:23 pm »
I call them like I see them.  The only thing he is consistent at is flailing away at breaking balls out of the strike zone and misreading balls in the outfield.  He has no power, no speed, no instincts. 

But you quickly forget he has a rap song and is so gangsta pimp.


Offline Air Zimmerman

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 11:25:32 pm »
millz will be a 30/30 future all-star in RIGHT FIELD. i thought center was his ideal position, but he is horrible at retreating for balls over his head and just overall bad at getting jumps.

dukes is our answer in center. he's stellar at all 3 outfield positions, but his athleticism would really be showcased best in center.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 11:25:44 pm »
Haha. It's WAY too early to be saying crap like this.

QFT.

this thread should just be named "sportsfan is ticked because we lost so he's going to pick a name out of a hat and call that player the worst player ever".

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 11:28:36 pm »
millz will be a 30/30 future all-star in RIGHT FIELD. i thought center was his ideal position, but he is horrible at retreating for balls over his head and just overall bad at getting jumps.

dukes is our answer in center. he's stellar at all 3 outfield positions, but his athleticism would really be showcased best in center.
What have you seriously seen in Milledge that leads you to believe he will be a 30/30 guy? No way in hell. He has no power and his speed/baserunning are both poor. 

Offline sayhey

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 11:32:45 pm »
It might be a little early to call him a bust but there's no way this guy is going to be a long-term outfielder for us.  He is just a terrible overall baseball player. He has no instincts in the field and he has no clue what he is doing at the plate.   >:(

You may be right. That's not my prediction, however. Milledge had the fastest bat on the Mets, and he may have the fastest bat on the Nats. That can't be taught. He has good speed, developing power, a level, compact swing (when not lunging at those outsiders you point out so rightfully), and a good arm. And Milledge is very young. He'll get his nose rubbed in it sometimes, but he has the character to keep that chin sticking out. I think he'll be a fine major leaguer. I think Manny Acta would agree with that.

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 11:33:41 pm »
What have you seriously seen in Milledge that leads you to believe he will be a 30/30 guy? No way in hell. He has no power and his speed/baserunning are both poor. 

He has good speed, but his baserunning ability isn't that great. You can see in his swing that if he actually kept his head down and made contact more he'd hit for power. Milledge is one of the more important guys (b/c of his age) that Lenny is not helping at all. He's a 23-year-old w/ minor problems at the plate. Bottom line: Lenny Sucks!

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 11:34:15 pm »
I'm just really frustrated at his lack of ability as a mistake hitter.  He hasn't shown much of an ability to drive pitches up and over the plate.  That's typically the strength of a developing young hitter.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008, 11:38:28 pm »
He's simply not fast at all either. Maybe it's because he doesn't hustle but he never makes the plays at first close. Even AK busts his ass down the line and at least makes the play a close one.

Offline Air Zimmerman

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2008, 11:40:16 pm »
Even AK busts his ass down the line and at least makes the play a close one.

that's because big ears plays the game the right way. lolllllllll. i love saying that.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008, 11:42:11 pm »
that's because big ears plays the game the right way. lolllllllll. i love saying that.
Is that you, Don?  :lol:

Seriously, Kearns looks like crap too. Everyone looks horrible at the plate except for CG and Ryan.  :?

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 11:43:15 pm »
He has good speed, but his baserunning ability isn't that great. You can see in his swing that if he actually kept his head down and made contact more he'd hit for power. Milledge is one of the more important guys (b/c of his age) that Lenny is not helping at all. He's a 23-year-old w/ minor problems at the plate. Bottom line: Lenny Sucks!

His baserunning ability or his skill?  Because those are two very different things.  I think from the little I've seen and from what I've heard he's got all the ability but at some point he needs to refine that ability into skill and that comes with time, experience and proper training.  He's still what, 23?  How many of you were at the top of your ability level at 23?  I know I sure wasn't most players aren't.  Most don't get there until they're 26, 27, 28, some even into their early 30's.  Let's hold out on the definative judgements for a bit longer.  Maybe his development will mirror the development of the organizations.  Maybe.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2008, 11:43:20 pm »
I'm not going to write off Milledge so far, but it's undeniable that the kid needs a lot of work.  He looked better than this in his stint with the Mets last year, so I'm pretty disappointed with that.

I think this entire organization needs to be revamped in terms of player development on the position player front.  I can't think of a single young hitter in the organization right now who isn't struggling in some way.  I guess Luke Montz, but that's not going to be enough.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2008, 11:45:28 pm »
I'm not going to write off Milledge so far, but it's undeniable that the kid needs a lot of work.  He looked better than this in his stint with the Mets last year, so I'm pretty disappointed with that.

I think this entire organization needs to be revamped in terms of player development on the position player front.  I can't think of a single young hitter in the organization right now who isn't struggling in some way.  I guess Luke Montz, but that's not going to be enough.
I haven't written off Milledge either. I hope he starts hitting homers and stealing bases and getting good reads on balls but it doesn't look good for him.   

Daniel is kicking ass in AA.  It takes him a while to get adjusted to a new level of pitching but once he does he masters it.  He's ready for AAA.  Rhinehart is whipping ass in Low A but he probably belongs in AA. 

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2008, 11:47:26 pm »
I forgot Rhinehart, but he's really old for playing in the South Atlantic League, so it's hard to tell whether he'll keep that up.

Daniel is a mediocre slap-hitter.  I don't think he'll amount to much.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2008, 11:47:54 pm »
Is that you, Don?  :lol:

Seriously, Kearns looks like **** too. Everyone looks horrible at the plate except for CG and Ryan.  :?

z-man and g-man are our two best hitters.

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2008, 11:49:28 pm »
I forgot Rhinehart, but he's really old for playing in the South Atlantic League, so it's hard to tell whether he'll keep that up.

Daniel is a mediocre slap-hitter.  I don't think he'll amount to much.
Daniel isn't a power hitter but he usually hits for a high average and steals some bases.  I think he will at least be a 4th OFer in the Majors in the next year or two. 

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2008, 11:56:47 pm »
QFT.

this thread should just be named "sportsfan is ticked because we lost so he's going to pick a name out of a hat and call that player the worst player ever".
I agree absolutely. Milledge is a future beast and this is just a scapegoating thread. I'm glad sportsfan didn't choose Hanrahan; I thought that (despite his two leadoff walks) the H-man was quite impressive. He regularly (!) hit 96 on the stadium radar guns and was generally pretty efficient. Mike O'Connor looked incredibly nervous throughout his inning, and I'm saying that even though I was in the topmost view deck and could barely see him...

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2008, 11:57:38 pm »
Daniel isn't a power hitter but he usually hits for a high average and steals some bases.  I think he will at least be a 4th OFer in the Majors in the next year or two. 
He's a future Juan Pierre with less speed.

Offline mikehughes

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2008, 11:57:59 pm »
Finally some more respect for Daniels, I think he is our future with Dukes,Maxwell, n Milledge rotating some kind of combo of course unless one is traded

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Milledge is awful
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2008, 11:58:46 pm »
Speed is completely irrelevant in Hanrahan's case. He has zero control. He is unquestionably a career AAA pitcher.

What would make you say that Milledge is a future beast?  I've seen nada.  This thread had been coming for a while now.  Just seemed like the perfect time to post it because Milledge continues to regress while Church is hitting .330 and blasting homers daily.