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Offline mikehughes

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Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« on: September 14, 2007, 05:04:57 pm »
Nationals To Pursue Jones

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The Washington Nationals are hoping Andruw Jones is seeking a fair deal, something around 75-80 million so he can fit in their payroll, because they plan to go all out to sign him. Jones has struggled a lot this season, batting just .223 with 24 HR and 85 RBI, and was hoping to break the bank and sign some sort of mega deal. One thing the Nationals could do is sign him to something around 15-18 million a year, but work his deal into fitting their payroll. Meaning, in 2008 he might only make 5 million, but the following year make 12 million because they might have some money to spend. Behind Jones, the Nationals plan to place a bid on Kosuke Fukudome, only if initial talks with Jones turn sour. In his career at RFK Stadium, Jones is batting .789 AVG with 7 HR, something that should make the Nationals even more desperate to sign him.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 05:05:37 pm »
Whats wrong with giving Nook/Maxwell a shot?
Or maybe trying rowand over fukodome.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 05:10:31 pm »
Nationals To Pursue Jones

From mlb-rumors.blogspot.com
 
The Washington Nationals are hoping Andruw Jones is seeking a fair deal, something around 75-80 million so he can fit in their payroll, because they plan to go all out to sign him. Jones has struggled a lot this season, batting just .223 with 24 HR and 85 RBI, and was hoping to break the bank and sign some sort of mega deal. One thing the Nationals could do is sign him to something around 15-18 million a year, but work his deal into fitting their payroll. Meaning, in 2008 he might only make 5 million, but the following year make 12 million because they might have some money to spend. Behind Jones, the Nationals plan to place a bid on Kosuke Fukudome, only if initial talks with Jones turn sour. In his career at RFK Stadium, Jones is batting .789 AVG with 7 HR, something that should make the Nationals even more desperate to sign him.


I dont know about the validity of this site, but that salary break down is pretty stupid.  what is it a five year deal at 5, 12, 19, 19, 19 instead of 15, 15, 15, 15, 15.  thats the kinda crap that just f-ed up the stock market.  although maybe i can find a sweet foreclosed house to buy in the next year or so

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 05:11:50 pm »
Nationals To Pursue Jones

From mlb-rumors.blogspot.com
 
The Washington Nationals are hoping Andruw Jones is seeking a fair deal, something around 75-80 million so he can fit in their payroll, because they plan to go all out to sign him. Jones has struggled a lot this season, batting just .223 with 24 HR and 85 RBI, and was hoping to break the bank and sign some sort of mega deal. One thing the Nationals could do is sign him to something around 15-18 million a year, but work his deal into fitting their payroll. Meaning, in 2008 he might only make 5 million, but the following year make 12 million because they might have some money to spend. Behind Jones, the Nationals plan to place a bid on Kosuke Fukudome, only if initial talks with Jones turn sour. In his career at RFK Stadium, Jones is batting .789 AVG with 7 HR, something that should make the Nationals even more desperate to sign him.


Can put a lot behind Jones, he's been eating a LOT of pizza. I prefer Logan, Maxwell, or Fukodome.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2007, 05:37:28 pm »
Whats wrong with giving Nook/Maxwell a shot?
Or maybe trying rowand over fukodome.

Cut the ****, Nook Logan is not who we need in CF. Put Maxwell in right field and sign Fuko or Rowand. Kearns absolutely sucks.

 Pena-Fuk-Maxwell. I like it.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 05:47:09 pm »
Cut the ****, Nook Logan is not who we need in CF. Put Maxwell in right field and sign Fuko or Rowand. Kearns absolutely sucks.

 Pena-Fuk-Maxwell. I like it.

Thats not gonna happen with Jim Bowden as gm, hes in love with Kearns. And Kearns should be given another shot, in a new ballpark his numbers could rise a bit. Nooks done well enough to atleast earn a small chance at starting in CF, personally id rather have Fuko, Jones, or Rowand over him but if we cant land one he has earned a shot.
But Id rather see Maxwell get a shot more than any of these guys. And with a new stadium and a new start, he could be another player to build around with Zim and bring fans to the stadium.
I also think Pena will hit 40 hrs next year, and Kearns will have 22, while also hitting for a fair average. 

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2007, 05:50:12 pm »
Why in the world would anybody give Andruw Jones a long term deal with the season he's coming off!

Offline Roarin Storen

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 05:51:15 pm »
Kearns is absolute trash, I can't believe we can trust him for anything. It's not like this is just a bad season, he has never been good - and is CLEARLY overrated by everyone on these boards. He has something like a .250 career average, and is a terrible RBI man to have batting 5th or even 6th.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 05:54:15 pm »
Why in the world would anybody give Andruw Jones a long term deal with the season he's coming off!
I have no idea.  No way we should sign him in any scenario.  Either get Rowand or Fukodome. 

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 06:06:55 pm »
In Barry Svrluga's chat this week, I think he was predicting that the NATS should try to get Fukodome.

Then again maybe he just likes typing and saying the name  :roll: ;)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/09/07/DI2007090701432.html

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 06:20:12 pm »
Kearns is absolute trash, I can't believe we can trust him for anything. It's not like this is just a bad season, he has never been good - and is CLEARLY overrated by everyone on these boards. He has something like a .250 career average, and is a terrible RBI man to have batting 5th or even 6th.

What Kearns is capable of remains to be seen.  His numbers in Cincy's bandbox are probably a bit inflated, but his numbers here are probably less than what they could have been as well due to the "RFK syndrome" which some players seem to suffer.  Regardless, his production is reasonably consistent if somewhat mediocre.  Consistency is something that is sorely lacking on this team, so I'm certainly willing to give him one more season to prove himself.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 06:41:34 pm »
I also think Pena will hit 40 hrs next year, and Kearns will have 22, while also hitting for a fair average. 

Yeah, and I think Zimm will hit 30ish homers.....no really, look at this link :
http://www.nationalspride.com/link.cfm?story=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/13/AR2007091302578.html
Svrluga said that left-center is 364 feet....heck, considering that Turner Feild is 380 to left-center(just like RFK), maybe Jones might find it easier to hit home runs too.

I like Jones, I always have, and would be really happy if he's call DC home next April....but, if he isn't I wouldn't be crushed (but I would totally blame it on the Lerners being cheap).

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2007, 07:08:04 pm »
Kearns is absolute trash, I can't believe we can trust him for anything. It's not like this is just a bad season, he has never been good - and is CLEARLY overrated by everyone on these boards. He has something like a .250 career average, and is a terrible RBI man to have batting 5th or even 6th.
I was pretty pissed about Kearns after the first half, but look at his second half line:

.295/.390/.469

Those are very good numbers for a guy playing his home games at RFK.  If he can hang around this level of production, he could be a very valuable right fielder when we move to the new ballpark.  He could easily hit .300 with 25 homers next year.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2007, 08:03:00 pm »
Andruw Jones looks like Ray King in center field. Just say no!

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2007, 08:19:21 pm »
Andruw Jones looks like Ray King in center field. Just say no!

I'd have to disagree there. Regardless of what he looks like, he covers the field just fine and is productive even in his worst season. I wouldn't say he's the #1 guy out there, but he'd most definitely fit into what we need here. Trust me, everyone would be just fine w/ it if we did actually get him...I just think he's going to be too expensive.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2007, 08:27:11 pm »
I'd have to disagree there. Regardless of what he looks like, he covers the field just fine and is productive even in his worst season. I wouldn't say he's the #1 guy out there, but he'd most definitely fit into what we need here. Trust me, everyone would be just fine w/ it if we did actually get him...I just think he's going to be too expensive.

I like the 24 homers and 87 RBI. I just don't understand why people want Jones but not Adam Dunn. Dunn plays LF and 1B, with more homers and LESS strikeouts this year. We could play Dunn in LF, Kearns in CF, and Pena in RF (where he likes to play). Dunn could also play 1st sometimes with Church in left.

I also admit extreme bias against signing former Braves.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2007, 08:30:20 pm »
I like the 24 homers and 87 RBI. I just don't understand why people want Jones but not Adam Dunn. Dunn plays LF and 1B, with more homers and LESS strikeouts this year. We could play Dunn in LF, Kearns in CF, and Pena in RF (where he likes to play). Dunn could also play 1st sometimes with Church in left.

I also admit extreme bias against signing former Braves.

Even though I really like Dunn, I think we'd have to change our name if we did that. :)

I see what you're saying, though, but I don't think Pena or Kearns would be very good CFs.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 01:44:55 am »
What Kearns is capable of remains to be seen.  His numbers in Cincy's bandbox are probably a bit inflated, but his numbers here are probably less than what they could have been as well due to the "RFK syndrome" which some players seem to suffer.  Regardless, his production is reasonably consistent if somewhat mediocre.  Consistency is something that is sorely lacking on this team, so I'm certainly willing to give him one more season to prove himself.

What was so consistent about him? An absolutely horrid first half and then an average second half. If anything he is consistently terrible at hitting. The only thing he can do is field and we have enough good defensive outfielders to replace him.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2007, 12:17:13 pm »
Average second half?  Again, what about this line:

.295/.390/.469

...is average?  That's very above average considering he plays his home games at RFK Stadium.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2007, 12:31:47 pm »
Average second half?  Again, what about this line:

.295/.390/.469

...is average?  That's very above average considering he plays his home games at RFK Stadium.

I'll take a roster full of those average players.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2007, 02:13:51 pm »
Average second half?  Again, what about this line:

.295/.390/.469

...is average?  That's very above average considering he plays his home games at RFK Stadium.

Yeah, it is average. Just because he bats .300 doesn't mean he is doing any good. He is the opposite of clutch and strikes out when we need him most.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2007, 02:24:39 pm »
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Andruw Jones looks like Ray King in center field. Just say no!

 :shock: Ya, whatever you say.  :roll: Because Ray King is a gold glover right? He can make difficult diving catches look routine right? He can climb the center field wall like spider man to rob a homer right?

Anyways, I would love to see AJ in a Nat uniform, maybe he's getting tired of the Braves. He needs a change of pace. He's going through a rough yr, but i think he is still one of the best hitters/defensive players in baseball. He's a web gem regular, and he puts a scare into the opposition every time he steps up to bat. If we want to contend we NEED a sure fire All Star with plenty of pop in the lineup. Don't let one bad year fool you guys, he's still got it.

O ya, not to mention he's got the freshest cleats in the game:


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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2007, 06:13:02 pm »
lol if were talking about andruw i say we take a shot at Torii if hes still up in the air. I would love to have him there but going back to reality.

Andruw wouldnt be bad out there. I just cannot stand Kearns. I like the guy, but i cannot rely on him to do well.

Id like to see

Church/Hunter/Pena lol
Church/Jones/Pena

cant wait to see more Maxwell though.

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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2007, 09:05:30 pm »
:shock: Ya, whatever you say.  :roll: Because Ray King is a gold glover right? He can make difficult diving catches look routine right? He can climb the center field wall like spider man to rob a homer right?



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Re: Nationals to pursue Jones/Fukodome
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2007, 09:37:41 pm »
Andruw Jones would be a step backward.