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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #50: August 29, 2024, 04:40:25 PM »
He should have been more like Danny Snyder and make constant organization changes. Sure worked for the football team.

Ted made a bad decision keeping Ernie too long and then hiring his protege. Time will tell on the current group. Need to tank for a few years to better the odds. Lagg for Flagg.
There's a happy medium. But Leonsis waited far too long to fire coaches and general managers.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #51: August 29, 2024, 05:27:03 PM »
There's a happy medium. But Leonsis waited far too long to fire coaches and general managers.
Not sure it would have mattered.  You need a way to find a top five player.  Needed to tank earlier.  KD was never coming.  They thought the had Al Horford first time he went Boston but he changed his mind.  Probably still would not have been enough.  Many teams in the NBA that have not been real contenders for a long time.  It's a tough go. 

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #52: August 29, 2024, 05:38:44 PM »
It appears they sure didn't get lucky with this past draft. This number 2 overall pick sure hasn't impressed so far to say the least.


We took the tall guy who wasn’t good enough to get minutes in New Zealand. At least he won’t hurt our tank for cooper flag

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #53: August 30, 2024, 10:55:29 AM »
The Nationals starters have 9 straight games of giving up no more than 2 runs. Hickey and Doo must be doing a great job. This staff isn't the 1971 Orioles with 4 20 game winners.

Also, considering they traded a couple of their best relievers at the deadline the relievers are doing well also. Gotta give credit where credit is due.


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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #54: August 30, 2024, 11:46:01 AM »
The Nationals starters have 9 straight games of giving up no more than 2 runs. Hickey and Doo must be doing a great job. This staff isn't the 1971 Orioles with 4 20 game winners.

Also, considering they traded a couple of their best relievers at the deadline the relievers are doing well also. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
I've always been a Hickey fan. He has been given very little to work with and overall held it together.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #55: August 30, 2024, 12:38:10 PM »
The Nationals starters have 9 straight games of giving up no more than 2 runs. Hickey and Doo must be doing a great job. This staff isn't the 1971 Orioles with 4 20 game winners.

Also, considering they traded a couple of their best relievers at the deadline the relievers are doing well also. Gotta give credit where credit is due.


You will never see that staff again. Not without tremendous overhaul of baseball.

Biggest thing is that, as an organization, cutting walks was identified as a need and specifically targetted by the whole organization.

Last year, Irvin had a a 4.02 BB/9. Parker posted a 4.28 BB/9 over 113 innings in Double A. Herz  was over 5 BB/9 in Double A last year.

Herz is the big one. He has great stuff. But he profiles as a flyball guy and that means home runs.  Walks are pretty much the deathnail of that kind of pitcher. But he is figuring it out.

Getting this kind of improvement and maintaining health has been a huge improvement.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #56: September 01, 2024, 05:40:08 PM »
Getting this kind of improvement and maintaining health has been a huge improvement.

They're 13th of 15 in runs given up in the NL, to celebrate that is to redefine low expectations. The health improvement has come with the starters averaging fewer than 5 IP per start since July 1.   


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« Reply #57: September 02, 2024, 01:09:25 PM »
They're 13th of 15 in runs given up in the NL, to celebrate that is to redefine low expectations. The health improvement has come with the starters averaging fewer than 5 IP per start since July 1.

A big part of that is Patrick Corbin has given up more runs than any other pitcher. Gore has given up the 6th most runs. Gore has good stuff though and I have no doubt he'll straighten out and be a better pitcher next year.

Nobody could of anticipated the years Irvin, Parker and Herz have had. They've had some blowup games that have skewed their stats but they've also had a lot of good starts. There should be every expectation with the experience they've gained this year they'll improve even more next season.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #58: September 02, 2024, 02:11:21 PM »
A big part of that is Patrick Corbin has given up more runs than any other pitcher. Gore has given up the 6th most runs. Gore has good stuff though and I have no doubt he'll straighten out and be a better pitcher next year.

Nobody could of anticipated the years Irvin, Parker and Herz have had. They've had some blowup games that have skewed their stats but they've also had a lot of good starts. There should be every expectation with the experience they've gained this year they'll improve even more next season.

They've gone from 6th in the NL in runs against on July 1, to 13th now.  Patrick Corbin, while a problem, has almost exactly the same ERA of 5.50 he had then, the decline has nothing to do with him.

-Jake Irvin's ERA has soared, he gave up 16 HR in 62 IP in July and August.
-Mitchell Parker's ERA has gone up by nearly a point
-Average innings pitched per start has dropped under 5.
-Team ERA was 16th of 30 in MLB on July 1, and is now 24th
-Bullpen ERA is 4.16 is near the bottom of the NL, but is still lower than starters ERA
-The defense has fallen to 28th in defensive runs saved.  It was 15th of 30 in errors on July 1, it's 29th now.

Irvin, Parker, and Herz might improve, but they've also been scouted much more extensively and the team hasn't responded to that.   Moreover, combined they're about 30% of all innings pitched, so bullpen and defensive issues could linger into next year, especially the abysmal defense at catcher.





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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #59: September 02, 2024, 04:42:31 PM »
Their young and haven't had the daily grind of a full MLB season. You can take almost any stat and make it look favorable.

Parker has given up 3 runs or less in 4 of his last 5 starts. In the other he gave up 9 which inflates the ERA.

Herz has given up 2 runs or less in 4 of his last 5 starts.

Irvin in 28 starts this year has given up 2 runs or less in 17 of them.

In Gores last 5 starts he's given up 0 runs, 1 run and 2 runs in three of them.

These are all things they can build on for next year.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #60: September 02, 2024, 05:31:03 PM »
The starting pitchers have all hit walls.  It happens. They’ve had to retool the bullpen also after the trades. The whole Cavalli thing has me depressed. They needed a guy with front end rotation stuff. Maybe Sykora will fill that role. And basically no Gray for next year.

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Re: Entire Coaching Staff to Return in 2025
« Reply #61: September 02, 2024, 07:20:23 PM »
The starting pitchers have all hit walls.  It happens. They’ve had to retool the bullpen also after the trades. The whole Cavalli thing has me depressed. They needed a guy with front end rotation stuff. Maybe Sykora will fill that role. And basically no Gray for next year.

There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of good free agent pitchers this offseason but I'd like to see them sign a quality starter to take Corbin's place. I gotta believe with his stuff Gore could be a quality starter towards the top of the rotation. I doubt they have the health with their starters next year they've had this year so somebody will have to step up next year from the minors like they did this year.