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Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Topic Start: July 30, 2024, 11:02:27 AM »
DoB: 07/18/2005
6'6, 205Lbs
B/T: L/L
Acquired on July 30, 2024 from Cleveland for Lane Thomas

https://www.milb.com/player/alex-clemmey-806046

Mlb.com scouting report:

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Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Curveball: 60 | Slider: 50 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 40 | Overall: 50

When Clemmey signed for $2.3 million last July, he broke fellow Bishop Henricken HS (Warwick, R.I.) alum Rocco Baldelli's Rhode Island bonus record. He boasted some of the best stuff in the 2023 high school class, so the Guardians were surprised to find him available toward the end of the second round. He opened his first full season at Single-A Lynchburg and was then moved to the Nationals at the Trade Deadline for Lane Thomas.

Clemmey already works with a 92-96 mph fastball that tops out at 99, and its high spin rates create good carry when he commands it at the top of the strike zone. His curveball combines power and depth, giving him a second plus pitch though it lacks consistency. He has added an 83-86 mph slider since turning pro, and it already looks like it will become at least an average offering.

Clemmey still is working on gaining feel for a mid-80s changeup that features only modest sink. While his 6-foot-6 frame results in natural extension that lets his pitches get on hitters quicker than anticipated, he also has trouble keeping his long limbs in sync in his up-tempo delivery. He's going to need time to refine his repertoire and upgrade his control and command, but his upside as a potential frontline starter could make it worth the wait.

Assigned to Fredricksburg.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #1: July 30, 2024, 11:15:04 AM »
DoB: 07/18/2005
6'6, 205Lbs
B/T: L/L
Acquired on July 30, 2024 from Cleveland for Lane Thomas

https://www.milb.com/player/alex-clemmey-806046

Mlb.com scouting report:

Assigned to Fredricksburg.

At least he doesn't have a lot of travel right now. The FredNats are in Lynchburg this week, which is where he's been playing this year.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #2: July 30, 2024, 01:27:18 PM »
Starting Friday against the team he just left.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #3: July 30, 2024, 07:04:34 PM »
Just turned 19. I love this addition. He needs some work, but he's already flashing dominant stuff. 97 K's in 69ip. He got off to a rough start. He had a 12.60 ERA through 5 starts. Over his last 14 starts, it's 2.48.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #4: July 30, 2024, 10:12:39 PM »
Just turned 19. I love this addition. He needs some work, but he's already flashing dominant stuff. 97 K's in 69ip. He got off to a rough start. He had a 12.60 ERA through 5 starts. Over his last 14 starts, it's 2.48.
what do you think of the whole "guys from the northeast aren't overworked" angle on arm preservation?

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« Reply #5: July 31, 2024, 12:27:46 AM »
what do you think of the whole "guys from the northeast aren't overworked" angle on arm preservation?

To be honest, I'm not familiar with any type of research or data on the subject. So any opinion I have, is total speculation. But in general, I buy it. Kids still throw, it's just in a much more controlled environment. You can throw pens and get work indoors. In the winters, you can have a strict regimen on how much throwing they're actually doing. So I think to an extent, it does limit the potential for overuse. That doesn't mean you're not getting in work though. When I was in college in the Midwest, our entire prep for the season was done indoors. You got ready for games ans building up pitch counts indoors.

Kids still have the ability to be overworked, with the wrong coach though. I don't know the full extent of their travel ball seasons as they grow up, but when they're able to pitch in games and outdoors, you can still run up pitch counts or pitch with too little rest. If you pitch for 3 straight days, or hit 100 pitched and come back to soon, or pitch on multiple teams .... it can still happen. The possibility isn't completely eliminated.

My experience on the California side of things, obviously is ripe with overuse. Not that I am personally active, but I know many kids playing travel ball, and a good friend does private pitching lessons. Kids are pitching for multiple teams, trying to pitch every weekend, even when their main team has the weekend off. I'm seeing 10 year olds doing this. It's insane. I'm seeing 9/10 year olds(my sons age, and the level his best friends play at) with elbow problems already and trying to push through it. They're not working on throwing strikes, they're chasing velocity. My friend that does lessons has had kids come in on a Monday after pitching for two teams over the weekend, and say their arm is hanging. And he asks the parents why did you bring him in if he just pitched? They claim the kids need the work. So it's not just coaches that can push and overwork a kid. Some parents are part of the problem too.

I dont push my son in baseball. He enjoys it but just plays little league when it's baseball season. He's getting his experience but i dont want to be in those situations. He plays basketball and flag football as well. To me, there's no need to focus on one so early.

Anyway, long rant there lol. It's definitely a different beast in states with year round baseball. You have a bigger window for overuse and a bigger window of competition. In places where the weather dictates, you're shielded a bit and can more disciplined. But bad coaches and parents that push can find a way to be overworked in any region.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #6: July 31, 2024, 08:46:33 AM »
thanks. Instinct says that pushing hard on an 18 year old is safer than on a 13 year old (or a 9 year old, as you say). Maybe the work early preserves some elasticity in tendons and ligaments, but I doubt it. I'd think building muscle too strong around young connective tissue just invites tears and damage. But I'm a lawyer, not a doctor, so the most I can do is give out business cards of personal injury guys like Zombie Angelos.

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« Reply #7: July 31, 2024, 10:27:20 AM »
thanks. Instinct says that pushing hard on an 18 year old is safer than on a 13 year old (or a 9 year old, as you say). Maybe the work early preserves some elasticity in tendons and ligaments, but I doubt it. I'd think building muscle too strong around young connective tissue just invites tears and damage. But I'm a lawyer, not a doctor, so the most I can do is give out business cards of personal injury guys like Zombie Angelos.

For sure. Every year kids get older, they're capable of more. I was just giving my experience seeing little ones pushed and it's a huge turnoff to the scene.

I do think there's value building up indoors. You're still getting work in, it's just.more controlled. So you can develop and improve. But if course, there's no substitute for game situations. Throwing 50 pitches in a pen and 50 pitches in a game is totally different.

But if you go 50 in pens, then 100 in a game, then pitch in a showcase event 2 days later, it can still be too much. It Just takes caution from all involved. Not everyone is the same of course, either.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #8: August 01, 2024, 04:35:30 PM »
Age: 19
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Current level: A

July recap

W-L|IP|GS|ERA|FIP|SO|BB|K%|BB%|WHIP
0-1|17.0|4|2.65|3.30|26|7|38.8%|10.4%|0.94

Year-to-date

W-L|IP|GS|ERA|FIP|SO|BB|K%|BB%|WHIP
1-4|69.1|19|4.67|3.62|97|47|32.6%|15.8%|1.44

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #9: August 02, 2024, 11:57:17 AM »
Starting Saturday for the Fred Nats.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #10: August 03, 2024, 11:29:00 PM »
Awful start. .2 IP, 33 pitches, H, 3BBs, 1K, 3ER.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #11: August 04, 2024, 07:50:49 AM »
Just turned 19. I love this addition. He needs some work, but he's already flashing dominant stuff. 97 K's in 69ip. He got off to a rough start. He had a 12.60 ERA through 5 starts. Over his last 14 starts, it's 2.48.

A lot of that was BABIP.  He's consistently walked about 6 batters per 9 IP.

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« Reply #12: August 04, 2024, 08:35:48 AM »
A lot of that was BABIP.  He's consistently walked about 6 batters per 9 IP.

Yesterday's start doesn't bode confidence, but he did only walk 7 batter across 17 IP in July. Definitely something there if he develops any sort of control.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #13: August 04, 2024, 10:02:58 AM »
Bust City. Rizzo blows another one.

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« Reply #14: August 04, 2024, 11:59:28 AM »
 
Awful start. .2 IP, 33 pitches, H, 3BBs, 1K, 3ER.

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« Reply #15: August 05, 2024, 10:25:26 AM »
A lot of that was BABIP.  He's consistently walked about 6 batters per 9 IP.

My take is definitely box score watching. I liked him coming out of the draft last year. He just turned 19, already in the mid to upper 90s and has physical projection left to maintain velocity and hopefully aid in durability. All the physical stuff is there, and hes flashing dominance with his K's. He absolutely needs to work on his control and command. But at just 19, he's got plenty of time for that. He'll probably get 80-85 innings this year, which should allow him to reach 110 or so next year. Everyone is different and I don't know what the switch exactly is, but Lara and Susana turned a corner this year. Sykora has made an impressive debut. Hopefully that development carries over for Clemmey.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #16: August 05, 2024, 12:21:43 PM »
Bennett, Sykora, Susana, Clemmey, Lara. We can hope.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #17: August 05, 2024, 12:27:33 PM »
Bennett, Sykora, Susana, Clemmey, Lara. We can hope.
Still think Susana ends up in the pen, but Syroka and Bennett seem very promising, and Lara is going well in Double A so far.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #18: August 10, 2024, 09:42:40 PM »
Looks like Clemmey had a rebound.  4 IP, 1ER, 4K, 2BB.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #19: August 10, 2024, 10:28:13 PM »
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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #20: August 21, 2024, 10:39:58 PM »
That’ll do: 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 K

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #21: September 01, 2024, 01:56:01 PM »
Age: 19
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Current level: A

August recap

W-L|IP|GS|ERA|FIP|SO|BB|K%|BB%|WHIP
0-1|19.0|5|4.74|3.27|21|12|26.9%|15.4%|1.26

Year-to-date

W-L|IP|GS|ERA|FIP|SO|BB|K%|BB%|WHIP
1-5|88.1|24|4.69|3.54|118|59|31.4%|15.7%|1.40

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Alex Clemmey, LHP
« Reply #22: September 04, 2024, 08:38:05 AM »
Decent yesterday with some control issues : 4IP, 2H, 1R, 1ER, 4BB, 5K

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« Reply #23: September 07, 2024, 12:01:17 PM »
Decent yesterday with some control issues : 4IP, 2H, 1R, 1ER, 4BB, 5K

16 walks in 23 IP for the FredNats

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« Reply #24: September 09, 2024, 01:37:24 PM »
16 walks in 23 IP for the FredNats

Definitely the concern with him. Pretty much where he was with the Guardians. We've seen Susana take a step forward with control this year. Hopefully they'll be able to make some progress with Clemmey. The positive side is, he just turned 19 and is pushing 100 innings. In 92.1ip, he's only given up 67 hits, with 123 K's. A lot to be excited about, but a lot of work as well.