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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #475 on: September 26, 2024, 03:19:28 pm »
O'Neill is also Boras, who has a skill at getting the Lerners to loosen their grip on their wallets.

After the Strasburg extension and the lack of a Soto extension, I really doubt there is any good will there

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« Reply #476 on: September 27, 2024, 11:39:10 am »
$35M is the luxury tax calc which is higher than the cash payment due to deferrals.  His contract is $160m cash for 7 years, or $23.57M from 2020 through 2026, then $80m cash for 3 years, or $26.67M per year for '27,'28, and '29.

Whoever they sign in the offseason there can't be anymore deferrals like this.  That would almost guarantee yet another 5 year rebuild/salary dump period in the first half of the 2030s.


Wow that's nuts. I agree, they should lay off these deferrals type of deals, as they are just mortgaging the future by engaging in them.

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« Reply #477 on: September 27, 2024, 12:07:03 pm »

Wow that's nuts. I agree, they should lay off these deferrals type of deals, as they are just mortgaging the future by engaging in them.
They always planned to sell and dump the deferrals on the next owner. Who knew other billionaires would be too smart for that.

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #478 on: September 27, 2024, 12:53:51 pm »
They always planned to sell and dump the deferrals on the next owner. Who knew other billionaires would be too smart for that.
This is more that the Lerners are being greedy. The Leonsis offer was over 2 billion. When you factor the Mets going for 2.4 billion and the Orioles going for 1.725 billion, that offer seems pretty much what the club is worth.

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« Reply #479 on: September 27, 2024, 02:44:18 pm »
Nunez has a career .358 minor league obp.  Over .370 combined in 2022 and 2023. With his speed, could he be a lead off hitter?  Add in his defense, and you could definitely argue he should start at SS next year

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #480 on: September 27, 2024, 03:13:13 pm »
Nunez has a career .358 minor league obp.  Over .370 combined in 2022 and 2023. With his speed, could he be a lead off hitter?  Add in his defense, and you could definitely argue he should start at SS next year
he's going to need regular at bats before they believe those numbers hold up at a high level so I don't see them starting him even if cj.or Garcia is dealt

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« Reply #481 on: September 27, 2024, 03:34:03 pm »
Nunez has 111 walks in 756 AA PA

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #482 on: September 27, 2024, 05:02:35 pm »
Nunez has a career .358 minor league obp.  Over .370 combined in 2022 and 2023. With his speed, could he be a lead off hitter?  Add in his defense, and you could definitely argue he should start at SS next year
I just think it would take a month for teams to realize that he can't hit, and the walks would dry up.

Also, you're basically punting the 8 and 9 hitters on a team that desperately needs offense, and particularly power. This team needs to add at least 50 home runs next season.

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #483 on: September 27, 2024, 05:57:45 pm »
I just think it would take a month for teams to realize that he can't hit, and the walks would dry up.

Also, you're basically punting the 8 and 9 hitters on a team that desperately needs offense, and particularly power. This team needs to add at least 50 home runs next season.
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« Reply #484 on: September 27, 2024, 11:13:38 pm »
I just think it would take a month for teams to realize that he can't hit, and the walks would dry up.

Also, you're basically punting the 8 and 9 hitters on a team that desperately needs offense, and particularly power. This team needs to add at least 50 home runs next season.

Yeah, they're going to need CJ's 20 to 25 home runs next year.

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« Reply #485 on: September 27, 2024, 11:16:21 pm »
So now we're looking at an outfield to start next year of Wood, Young, Crews, Call and Garrett? Can they keep 5 who only play the outfield?

Outfield - 5
Infield - 6
Catcher - 2
Pitchers - 13

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #486 on: September 28, 2024, 09:23:59 am »
Its one game, but if Garrett can play the corners, you only need four outfielders. Its questionable if Young is good enough to keep his job versus Crews in CF and Garrett in RF

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #487 on: September 28, 2024, 10:03:17 am »
Hold off on Garrett a bit. He had a bad year in the minors. Not all was recovery

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« Reply #488 on: September 28, 2024, 12:20:34 pm »
Hold off on Garrett a bit. He had a bad year in the minors. Not all was recovery


They did say on the telecast last night he hasn't been feeling okay until about a week ago, but yeah it's been a year since the injury.

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« Reply #489 on: September 28, 2024, 01:28:25 pm »
They always planned to sell and dump the deferrals on the next owner. Who knew other billionaires would be too smart for that.


Haha yeah, I guess these deferrals don't look too good on the team's balance sheet when the time comes to sell.

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« Reply #490 on: September 28, 2024, 02:07:26 pm »

Haha yeah, I guess these deferrals don't look too good on the team's balance sheet when the time comes to sell.

Excluding Stras's '25 and '26 payments, team still owes him, Corbin, and Max $135 million in deferral payments 5-10 years after their contracts were signed. 

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« Reply #491 on: September 28, 2024, 02:18:18 pm »

Haha yeah, I guess these deferrals don't look too good on the team's balance sheet when the time comes to sell.

With the mid-contract Werth adjustment, the Lerners have never done a $100 million+ contract without deferrals.  And given the dysfunctional way the team has been run the last couple years, doubt they've changed their ways.  Therefore, this will likely be another offseason of either not spending, or deferring spend into the distant future.

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« Reply #492 on: September 28, 2024, 04:17:54 pm »
With the mid-contract Werth adjustment, the Lerners have never done a $100 million+ contract without deferrals.  And given the dysfunctional way the team has been run the last couple years, doubt they've changed their ways.  Therefore, this will likely be another offseason of either not spending, or deferring spend into the distant future.
The offer to Soto had no deferrals. So they were willing. That was before the attempt to sell though so we shall see this off-season.

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« Reply #493 on: September 28, 2024, 06:45:34 pm »
The offer to Soto had no deferrals. So they were willing. That was before the attempt to sell though so we shall see this off-season. I am sure if they enter into one big contract you will find something wrong with it.

The details of the Soto offer were not made public.  But keep those low expectations going, more fuel for Lerner dysfunction and cheapness.

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« Reply #494 on: September 28, 2024, 06:57:42 pm »
The details of the Soto offer were not made public.  But keep those low expectations going, more fuel for Lerner dysfunction and cheapness.
Sure just keep typing away nonsense.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41193837/2024-mlb-playoffs-juan-soto-new-york-yankees-free-agent-future-october-postseason

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« Reply #495 on: September 28, 2024, 07:07:23 pm »
Sure just keep typing away nonsense.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41193837/2024-mlb-playoffs-juan-soto-new-york-yankees-free-agent-future-october-postseason


Hahaha, you post some random article that doesn't prove a thing, and add a personal attack.  You make me laugh.

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« Reply #496 on: September 28, 2024, 07:18:02 pm »
I’m not buying into Stone Garrett for Opening Day unless he comes to Spring Training and rakes.

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« Reply #497 on: September 28, 2024, 08:35:27 pm »

Hahaha, you post some random article that doesn't prove a thing, and add a personal attack.  You make me laugh.
I’m glad your posts carry more weight than articles by professional journalists who have sources. And it’s not the only place it was reported. We don’t have a copy of the offer so
I guess you are right.

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« Reply #498 on: September 28, 2024, 10:10:07 pm »
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Are the Nats going to pay that asking price? Last we heard, Boras wanted 200+ million. Thats a lot for a guy who has a ~.800 OPS.

Kind of hoping the Orioles stupidly decline o'Hearn's option

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Re: Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster
« Reply #499 on: September 28, 2024, 11:11:12 pm »
If we don’t go for Soto, I want to see us get Walker, Santander, manaea, and resign law and williams