Now we’re having fun: 2025 Nats Roster

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

What does a Doug Fister (4.0 WAR) - Lombardozzi, Ray, Krol trade look like if it was for Crochet today? Ferrer, Baker/Alu, and Susana? I'd do it!

Four quarters doesn't equal a dollar. I'm fine moving some nice pieces for really good piece. Unlike even a year ago, I think the Nationals finally have enough assets that I think we can move a few and still have options at those positions.

Not sure if serious…

[imref]

Add Hassell in and maybe the white Sox would take it seriously enough to make a counter offer

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Add Hassell in and maybe the white Sox would take it seriously enough to make a counter offer

They wouldn’t.  Baker, Alu, and Ferrer are essentially of zero value.  Susana is a nice prospect, him and Hassell could maybe get you a “Doug Fister” at the deadline of their free agency year.  Not Crochet now.

[imref]

Nussbaum noted that the average age of the Nats' staters tonight was lower than the teams we started in AAA and AA.

[Smithian]

Not sure if serious…

The Fister trade was my favorite Nats trade.

Someone summed it up as the moment GMs should stop taking Rizzo’s calls on trades. It felt like robbery.

[Slateman]

Meh, Doug Fister was overrated. You traded Robbie Ray for 25 starts of lucky Fister

[imref]

Sean Manaea expected to opt out of his deal with the Mets

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/09/mets-rumors-sean-manaea-opt-out-free-agent-luxury-tax.html

[Senatorswin]

Sign Trevor Bauer.

[Slateman]

Sign Trevor Bauer.

Lol replace one washed pitcher with another

[Senatorswin]

Lol replace one washed pitcher with another

Lol why do you say that? He hasn't pitched in the big leagues since 2021 but he's still pitching. He's 33 years old. I'm sure you could get him cheap and if he doesn't have it you can cut him. No fuss no muss.

[Slateman]

Lol why do you say that? He hasn't pitched in the big leagues since 2021 but he's still pitching. He's 33 years old. I'm sure you could get him cheap and if he doesn't have it you can cut him. No fuss no muss.

For one, he's a piece of crap. I dont mean like how Corbin is a piece of crap. But the super special kind of piece of crap. The kind of piece of crap that needs to beat on someone to get their dick up. I dont want that kind of crap on my team.

Also, he was meh in Japan, and then couldn't keep his mouth shut. And now he's pitching in the Mexican League. He is washed. Good riddance.

[Mattionals]

For one, he's a piece of crap. I dont mean like how Corbin is a piece of crap. But the super special kind of piece of crap. The kind of piece of crap that needs to beat on someone to get their dick up. I dont want that kind of crap on my team.

Also, he was meh in Japan, and then couldn't keep his mouth shut. And now he's pitching in the Mexican League. He is washed. Good riddance.

Tell us how you really feel.

BTW, you aren't wrong. I'd rather sign Corbin Burnes or trade some of the OF depth and get a starter. It won't land an ace, but I don't think we could afford to trade for an ace.

[Slateman]

Tell us how you really feel.

BTW, you aren't wrong. I'd rather sign Corbin Burnes or trade some of the OF depth and get a starter. It won't land an ace, but I don't think we could afford to trade for an ace.

Only ways you're getting an ace via trade is a massive overpay or if you trade before they're an ace.

I'd like Burnes, but I just dont think the Lerners will pay. They'll be willing to pay for Soto, but no one else

[Senatorswin]

Yeah they're not trading their young talent. Either they sign a free agent or hope prospects from the minors can pitch well like the youngsters did this year.

[Senatorswin]

For one, he's a piece of crap. I dont mean like how Corbin is a piece of crap. But the super special kind of piece of crap. The kind of piece of crap that needs to beat on someone to get their dick up. I dont want that kind of crap on my team.

Also, he was meh in Japan, and then couldn't keep his mouth shut. And now he's pitching in the Mexican League. He is washed. Good riddance.

No question he was a bad person in his 20's. I don't know if he's grown up or become a better person in his 30's, but he has been a good pitcher in the Japanese and Mexican leagues. He's a combined 21-4 with an ERA of 2.55 and a WHIP of 1.100. I'm sure it wouldn't take much research to see what kind of human being he is now. If they determine he's changed maybe he deserves a second chance.

[Slateman]

No question he was a bad person in his 20's. I don't know if he's grown up or become a better person in his 30's, but he has been a good pitcher in the Japanese and Mexican leagues. He's a combined 21-4 with an ERA of 2.55 and a WHIP of 1.100. I'm sure it wouldn't take much research to see what kind of human being he is now. If they determine he's changed maybe he deserves a second chance.

He and his girl are still degrading his victims

Its the Mexican League. Robinson Cano is like a .440 hitter there.

[Slateman]

https://www.si.com/mlb/nationals/news/washington-nationals-predicted-to-score-two-impact-free-agency-signings

Predicts the Nats signing Eugenio Suarez and Joc Pederson.

Pass on Suarez. Pretty obvious he's getting the Zona Boost.

Pederson might be nice.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

https://www.si.com/mlb/nationals/news/washington-nationals-predicted-to-score-two-impact-free-agency-signings

Predicts the Nats signing Eugenio Suarez and Joc Pederson.

Pass on Suarez. Pretty obvious he's getting the Zona Boost.

Pederson might be nice.

Suarez is getting his option picked up, so it's not even a choice.

[Smithian]

https://www.si.com/mlb/nationals/news/washington-nationals-predicted-to-score-two-impact-free-agency-signings

Predicts the Nats signing Eugenio Suarez and Joc Pederson.

Pass on Suarez. Pretty obvious he's getting the Zona Boost.

Pederson might be nice.

I'd be pretty happy signing Joc Pederson to a 2-year deal. Plenty of salary flexibility. I don't love him being position limited, but right now we don't have a regular who looks like they need to be moved to DH, so I'm fine it.

I'm very, very close too anointing Andres Chaparrro our 1B for next Opening Day. If that doesn't happen, Chaparro destroys LH pitching. Platoon him with Joc, or another LH DH, and you have a nasty DH setup and Chaparro can cover both corners in a pinch.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/09/08/nationals-pitching-free-agency-pirates-jared-jones/

Buried in Nusbaum's article's praise for Jared Jones's stuff and his observation about how the Skenes/Jones duo could be leading the Pirates rotation for a long time is Nusbaum's discussion of where the Nats could come up with a similar rotation piece:

But with the expiration of Corbin’s six-year, $140 million contract, a $35.4 million hole will open in Washington’s payroll. That is an opportunity to spend on a top-line pitcher.

There won’t be a shortage of options — if ownership is willing to spend. Corbin Burnes, the 2021 National League Cy Young Award winner, will see his contract with the Baltimore Orioles end. The Atlanta Braves’ Max Fried, with an ERA under 3.50 for five straight seasons, is in line to be available. When healthy, Shane Bieber has been one of baseball’s best pitchers for a while now, and he is slated to be a free agent, too. Those are three of many.

Internally, MacKenzie Gore has shown he has the stuff to be the No. 1 guy and has found a second gear as of late, but he still has an ERA over 4.00 in each of his three major league seasons. Jake Irvin, DJ Herz and Mitchell Parker are young enough where you can consider the idea that a leap could come.

This free agent class features pitchers who have more consistently done what the Nationals’ quartet have done in their best stretches. The staff as a whole has the third-worst Stuff+ in baseball — a FanGraphs metric that, in its simplest definition, measures the movement and velocity a staff throws with.

That’s not the only concern — length, too, would matter in a hypothetical October 2025 or 2026.

[IanRubbish]

I'm very, very close too anointing Andres Chaparrro our 1B for next Opening Day. If that doesn't happen, Chaparro destroys LH pitching. Platoon him with Joc, or another LH DH, and you have a nasty DH setup and Chaparro can cover both corners in a pinch.

What would you do with Yepez?

[welch]

https://www.si.com/mlb/nationals/news/washington-nationals-predicted-to-score-two-impact-free-agency-signings

Predicts the Nats signing Eugenio Suarez and Joc Pederson.

Pass on Suarez. Pretty obvious he's getting the Zona Boost.

Pederson might be nice.

Whether or not AZ picks up the option on Suarez, the Nats need an ace starting pitcher more than a hitter.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

What would you do with Yepez?

3 players for 2 spots (1st /dh) among Joc, Chaparro, and Yepez. Straight platoon vs lefties, and some sort of time split between Yepez and Chappy vs righties. Yepez can even cover LF if needed.

[Smithian]

What would you do with Yepez?

I admit I thought of Yepez as a straight 1B. Didn't know he played in other spots in minors.

I'm fine letting one of them take the every day at 1B and let the other platoon with a lefty DH. And then late in game you can PH them and not be in a position crunch.

The Nats won't have great stats at 1B by league average with Yepez/Chaparro, but they're at worst a fine duo at the plate, give you positional flexibility, and neither is someone you'll hard pressed to pull from the lineup if you want to make a move at the deadline for a middle of the order bat who needs to hidden at 1B.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Yepez played outfield in St L.

If you split 1st and DH among 3 players, and figure a backup infielder for 2d/SS/3d, plus a backup catcher, that's 3 of your 4 bench spots. With Crews and Wood capable of playing CF, you have a bit of flexibility in that last spot provided you are comfortable with one of those guys in an outfield corner. Alternatively, there's Call.

Whether or not AZ picks up the option on Suarez, the Nats need an ace starting pitcher more than a hitter.

I don't think "just sign Joc and go with the internal players" is how you build a wild card roster, unless you spend on a true ace (plus just a little on bullpen depth). That lineup could be around .500, and any plus side puts you in the WC mix.