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Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« on: April 28, 2024, 07:30:06 pm »
Seems our expectations for this signing has been so low that we never started a thread for him.

Many of us were so impressed by Trey Lipscomb this spring that we were disappointed that Senzel initially was on the OD roster and Trey was sent to Rochester. This plan didn't even last to the top of the first in Cincinnati, as Senzel took a ball off his hand during fielding drills and Trey and Davey had to insert the ubiquitous Ildemaro Vargas into the OD lineup. OD seems a while ago, with Rosario homering and Josiah Gray on the mound healthy. Trey was recalled and, after a few "I told you so" games that had us thinking Senzel was Wally Pipp, Trey struggled enough that most folks were ready for Senzel's return to see what the Nats signed.

An initial meh 1st series in LA vs the Dodgers then a quick bout of the flu at the end of the Houston / Dodgers home stand showed little promise. The "don't judge the move until  100 PAs" had some counting the PAs before :hang: . The only hint of something promising to come was a couple of solo homers.  Going on the road, Senzel did have a solid .214 ISO, but that was on a .200 / .259 / .414 batting line through 28 PAs.

At District on Deck, Reese Evans captured Senzel's performance:
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Nick Senzel was placed on the 10-day Injured List due to a freak accident while warming up for Opening Day. The 28-year-old third baseman has played seven games since returning from injury and is yet to find his stride. His lone home run came against a right-handed pitcher, the opposite of what Senzel's scouting report reads, a left-handed specialist. It's hard to grade the signing of Senzel due to his lack of games played. Just 22 at-bats into his season, Senzel can boost his statistics with a multiple-hit game. The third baseman must get the ball rolling, as he's still under the .200 batting average mark.

Signing Grade: Incomplete
https://districtondeck.com/posts/what-does-the-future-hold-for-nationals-mitchell-parker-01hw66daekan

Well, one nice series against bottom dwelling Marlins probably shouldn't lead to thinking this is much more real than Rosario's OD homer, but in fairness, we have gotten to see a slice of the promise Senzel has held but only inconsistently lived up to in his career. DH'ng while Lipscomb is back at 3rd and reliving his Spring Training, Senzel hit 3 homers over 2 games, including 2 today for 5 RBI. Senzel's hitting line is now .222 / .263 . . . [ho-hum] . .  . / .639. .415 ISO. Still just 39 PAs so the gotta see 100 PAs to start to have a reality check on the signing (the 5.1 BB% / 28.2 K% aren't far off his career 7.6 BB% / 20.8 K%), but he's earned some patience. More than that, he's earned a lot of happiness from things going right for him. 

Davey also played a good hunch today batting him #2, in between the two best Nats hitters, lefties CJ Abrams and Jesse Winker. The Nats have had something of a struggle at #2 since CJ pushed Lane out of leadoff. Lining CJ and Winker back to back has worked at times, but no righty has really emerged as a top 4 bat.

So, is the power for Senzel real? what's his career numbers look like? What did scouts see to make him a highly ranked prospect?

He was the #7 MLB prospect coming into his rookie year, with an expectation that he would have great contact skills and power that would show up when he made highly quality contact. From his FG prospect report:
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Senzel has a contact and power combination that will profile anywhere on the diamond, and he's a likely star if he ends up at his natural position (third base) or proves athletically capable of handling second base or center field. ...  At the very least, he has stumbled into defensive versatility. Mostly though, Senzel hits. He doesn’t have monster raw power, nor does he seek to take max-effort swings by utilizing a big stride or leg kick. Instead, his power comes from precise, high-quality contact. He’s going to be a doubles machine with home runs coming opportunistically rather than playing core aspect of his approach, but he’ll still hit for power.
https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2019-prospect-list That 2019 prospect list also had Victor Robles #5, so it earns many grains of salt for these 2 evaluations.

His career numbers kind of explain why he was not going to get much better of an offer than the Nats $2 million and a chance to start at his natural position, 3rd base (going into today, 1399 PAs, 33 HRs, .238 / .301 / .372). Senzel has shown signs of pop his rookie year and last year. In 2019, 414 PAs, he hit .256 / .315 / .427 with 12 HRs, while last year, in just 330 PAs, he hit .236 / .297 / .399 with 13 HRs. In between, he showed no progress. Injuries were a part of his disappointment in 2020-23.
https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/nick-senzel-player-injuries

He claims to be healthy and he's playing at his natural position or DH. It'll be interesting to see if the hit tool shows up. The power is maybe something that will stay as he's now in his prime playing age. Perhaps a .250 / .320 /.440 line would be a nice result, with maybe a little higher SLG if the power shows.


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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2024, 08:12:34 pm »
I've viewed him as the Reds' version of Victor Robles with worse defense. Still too early to say either way but he's hitting home runs. Awesome game from him today.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2024, 08:46:52 pm »
his .639 slugging percentage leads the team right now.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2024, 09:28:45 pm »
I want to see his numbers settle down before I judge. Best case is he is healthy and happy to be playing infield.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2024, 02:43:13 pm »
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Nick Senzel: Batting at the top of the lineup while hitting 5 HR in just 60 PA. The home runs might be coming since he has raised his launch angle for the second straight season (12 degrees to 15 to 18).
https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/faab-waiver-wire-report-week-6/

Improving his launch angle may end up a big development. He's not increased his hard hit rate (at 33%, is below average (39%)), but he's increased his barrels a lot. His launch angle hovered around 10% in his bad 2021 and 2022, and he barreled 4.2% and 3.2% of hits his contact. He's started this year at 12.5%. League averages are 12.9% LA and 7.5% barrels.

He's hitting a lot more flies (which matches the barrels and launch angle), his Ks are up. Looks like he's trying for more flies, but there's room for improvement as his CF contact spiked (career 35%, this year 51%) and pulls dropped (39%-> 31%).

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2024, 10:03:25 am »
It's been a couple of weeks or a bit more since his homer streak, but pretty quietly Senzel has become one of the better on base guys on the team. Perhaps damning by faint praise, but his OPB is up to .337 on the year, and over the past 2 weeks, it's .375. 9 walks in 14 days will do that. Only 1 double over that stretch is not the kind of power you want out of a corner infielder, and 3 hits is not productive, but you need to get on to score, and he's been doing that well. Should be hitting 2d behind CJ on this roster.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2024, 10:14:41 am »
Senzel has drawn walks, which raises his OBP and which raises his OPS. He has been picked off at least twice, comically out by a foot or so each time. He's hitting .212. That is consistent with who he has been for his entire career, except for a good rookie season in 2019.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/senzeni01.shtml

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2024, 08:13:08 pm »
This is contrary to what we've been thinking, but after seeing Ghost Mears say that Senzel is under team control next year, I did some double checking. Cot's lists him as A4 arb eligible, so I did the quick google and came across this on the MLB website:

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Definition

Players become free agents upon reaching six years of Major League service time or when they are released from their organization prior to reaching six years of service time. A free agent is eligible to sign with any club for any terms to which the two parties can agree. If a player with fewer than six years of service time signs with a club, he remains under the control of that club until reaching the requisite service time to reach free agency -- even if the contract he signed does not cover the remaining years until that point.
Examples

Jason Heyward made his Major League debut on Opening Day in 2010 and never returned to the Minor Leagues. He reached six years of Major League service time at the completion of the 2015 season, at which point he became eligible for free agency. Heyward went on to sign an eight-year contract with the Cubs.

Tony Sipp was released by the Padres in May 2014 when he had between four and five years of Major League service time. The left-hander subsequently signed a guaranteed Major League contract with the Astros that ran through the end of the '14 campaign. Because he finished the season with less than six years of Major League service time, Sipp was eligible for salary arbitration as opposed to free agency. Sipp qualified as a free agent following the 2015 season and re-signed with the Astros on a three-year deal.
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/free-agency

I think this substantially changes the likelihood that the Nats will trade Senzel at the deadline. It looks more like he's the place holder until House is ready.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2024, 08:27:56 pm »
Very interesting. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2024, 08:41:19 pm »
It's been a couple of weeks or a bit more since his homer streak, but pretty quietly Senzel has become one of the better on base guys on the team. Perhaps damning by faint praise, but his OPB is up to .337 on the year, and over the past 2 weeks, it's .375. 9 walks in 14 days will do that. Only 1 double over that stretch is not the kind of power you want out of a corner infielder, and 3 hits is not productive, but you need to get on to score, and he's been doing that well. Should be hitting 2d behind CJ on this roster.
still hanging in with a .335 OBP. The ISO is around his average in good years (.169) - that is, throwing out injured years 2021-2. Not killing the team defensively. I do wonder whether they should give him a shot at #2 or #4 vs. lefties. .852 OPS, .352 OBP.

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2024, 11:00:05 pm »
He has zero range defensively

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Re: Nick Senzel - will it ever be this good again?
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2024, 08:29:17 am »
He has zero range defensively
below average for sure. probably -4 or -5 runs by OAA for a season. With his offense, the total package is near average.