Low Budget: Kinks Tribute & Nats Payroll

[Slateman]

So next year, we will probably be paying three guys more to not pitch for us than we are paying the entire rotation

[JCA-CrystalCity]

So next year, we will probably be paying three guys more to not pitch for us than we are paying the entire rotation

If you count Stras, yes. For 2025, Sportrac only lists Corbin's $10 million and Scherzer's $15 million as deferred salaries, but if you count Stras at the portion he's paid in 2025, then that goes up to nearly $50 million. Could sign Corbin Burnes and pay Gray and Gore good arbitration salaries and not his $50 million.

[imref]

So next year, we will probably be paying three guys more to not pitch for us than we are paying the entire rotation 40-man

FIFY

[IanRubbish]

what is the cash to Stras this year? What other players are still on the books? Soriano? Hand? Can you link to a source?

Stras gets $23.57M cash this year, and every year through 2026.  Soriano gets $2M this year, Hand $1.5M.

Stras's contract is $165m over the seven years from 20 to 26, and then $80m for the three years 27-29.  Max had $105m over 7 years 15-21, then another $105m deferred 22-28, so $15m cash for 14 years with the Dodgers picking up the '28 payment when they traded for him.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/washington-nationals/payroll/

[English Natsie]

i'm trying to figure out how self-bagging groceries translates here.

I was looking for a metaphor for 'cheap and downmarket'...

[HalfSmokes]

So you’re saying the Lerners will need to spend a little more.  Almost like they could have predicted those deferrals coming due. 

How were they supposed to anticipate a lack of buyers? Those deferrals were supposed to be the next guy’s problem

[Senatorswin]

I was looking at the rank of MLB teams as far as expenses to go to a game. This was updated January 8th, 2024. I was surprised to see the Orioles were the 8th most expensive and the Nationals the 13th.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/analysis/cost-for-family-to-attend-an-mlb-game/

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I was looking at the rank of MLB teams as far as expenses to go to a game. This was updated January 8th, 2024. I was surprised to see the Orioles were the 8th most expensive and the Nationals the 13th.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/analysis/cost-for-family-to-attend-an-mlb-game/

well, with the Os, you have to build in the cost of paying someone to protect your car. Getting shot at Nats Park is less expensive.

[Natsinpwc]

well, with the Os, you have to build in the cost of paying someone to protect your car. Getting shot at Nats Park is less expensive.

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

That cannot possibly be right.  Maybe if you eat 6 of those Old Bay & crab "Maryland Dogs" and do bottle service with Omar in the Club, otherwise no way.

[HalfSmokes]

Ticket prices for the remained of 2023 were used. The Nats were essentially free down the stretch

[Senatorswin]

That cannot possibly be right.  Maybe if you eat 6 of those Old Bay & crab "Maryland Dogs" and do bottle service with Omar in the Club, otherwise no way.

I looked at a ticket behind home plate upper deck 1:00 Wednesday Orioles game in April. $25.00 dollars.

I looked at a April 4th game against the Pirates behind home plate upper deck Thursday 4:00 game Nationals. $38.00.

Considering parking is cheaper at Orioles park also, I don't see how they came up with those numbers.

[Natsinpwc]

I looked at a ticket behind home plate upper deck 1:00 Wednesday Orioles game in April. $25.00 dollars.

I looked at a April 4th game against the Pirates behind home plate upper deck Thursday 4:00 game Nationals. $38.00.

Considering parking is cheaper at Orioles park also, I don't see how they came up with those numbers.

But by August those figures will be reversed. 

[PowerBoater69]

I was looking at the rank of MLB teams as far as expenses to go to a game. This was updated January 8th, 2024. I was surprised to see the Orioles were the 8th most expensive and the Nationals the 13th.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/analysis/cost-for-family-to-attend-an-mlb-game/

They used Seat Geek ticket prices for the second half of the season, so they were getting prices less than face value. They listed $20 for parking, which would be quite a good walk for a family of four to Nats Park, I looked up a Saturday game in May on Spot Hero and the lowest was $25 and that was a good distance. The most egrigous was $56 for four hot dogs, two beers, and two sodas. Hot dogs were $8.25 with tax, so $33 right there. Two domestic beers and two sodas is going to be at least $40.

[IanRubbish]

Nothing in Baltimore comes close to the $420 Terra Club seats or even the $200+ Diamond Club.  Most expensive seats at OPACY for the first weeknight series at OPACY are $54, or just over 10% the most $$$ at Nats Park for their first weeknight series.

The "average family of four" means little when there are lawyers and lobbyists paying top dollar for club seats regardless of how bad the team is.  There is no Baltimore equivalent to this part of the Nats ST market.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The "average family of four" means little when there are lawyers and lobbyists paying top dollar for club seats regardless of how bad the team is.  There is no Baltimore equivalent to this part of the Nats ST market.

this is especially true after Omar was killed.

[Slateman]

this is especially true after Omar was killed.

The game is the game