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Offline imref

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #1: November 13, 2023, 08:59:40 AM »
Critics of the current system often use the argument that the regular season becomes "meaningless" if 100-win teams are eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by scrappy Wildcard teams getting hot at the right time.

Perhaps - but do you know what else feels meaningless? The regular season in August and September in years when all of the division leaders have 10-game leads and there is little to no drama about who makes the playoff. The Wildcard and especially the expanded wildcard has made late-regular-season baseball extremely exciting to follow.

The ghost win system described in the article sounds like a decent solution that allows us to have our cake and eat it too.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #2: November 13, 2023, 09:03:54 AM »
Baseball is a high variance sport and combined with the playoffs is also high parity. Combine the two and higher seeding is practically meaningless. There is very little difference between a 90 win team and a 100 win team across even a month of baseball, let alone a 5 or 7 game series.

This is the price of expanded playoffs.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #3: November 13, 2023, 10:08:39 AM »
I don't know why they can't go with an egregious ball/strike correction of some kind.   Have the zone be a baseball width wide.  If the full ball is out of it, and it's a strike, then overturn, if the full ball is in and it's a ball, then overturn.  Everything else stands as called.     

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #4: November 15, 2023, 05:14:03 PM »
Passan reports the league is considering cutting the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 seconds. Bases empty clock would remain at 15 seconds. They are also considering reducing the # of mound visits from 5 to 4.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #5: November 15, 2023, 05:19:48 PM »
Passan reports the league is considering cutting the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 seconds. Bases empty clock would remain at 15 seconds. They are also considering reducing the # of mound visits from 5 to 4.
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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #6: November 16, 2023, 09:03:56 AM »
the mound visit thing I don't get. I guess they want it to be more of a constraint. Very few games involve burning through all 5 visits. Tightening up the total visits will not appreciably decreases the time of games. IIRC, the rule came into place before the pitch clock and wasn't all that noticeable.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #7: December 21, 2023, 08:40:45 PM »
About time they changed the stupid base path rule that seems to have hurt us about 10x more than any other team.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39161682/mlb-competition-committee-tinkering-pitch-runners-lanes

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #8: December 21, 2023, 09:43:57 PM »
About time they changed the stupid base path rule that seems to have hurt us about 10x more than any other team.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39161682/mlb-competition-committee-tinkering-pitch-runners-lanes





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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #10: December 22, 2023, 09:41:29 AM »
so, are these changes adopted despite the players' objections? 7- 4 or 6-5?

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #11: December 22, 2023, 10:04:14 AM »
so, are these changes adopted despite the players' objections? 7- 4 or 6-5?

The competition committee is comprised of 11 members: 1 umpire, 4 players, and 6 people chosen by owners. So the owners have effective control.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #12: December 22, 2023, 11:33:18 AM »
I'm kind of meh on the clock tweaks and the mound visit change. If teams get an extra visit for the 9th if they have burned through their 4 in the first 8 innings, then I don't see this as having a negative impact. There are just so few times that 5 visits are used before the 8th that I've thought the mound visit thing was an unobtrusive rule that only came into play when visits were being abused. As for the 20 second to 18 change, I think it's not going to be too visible but I don't think it was needed. When you couple it with starting the clock when the pitcher receives the ball and not when he's on the mound I think it'll have a bigger impact. There are times between pitches when you want to check the defense, disrupt runner and batter timing, and catch a breath.

The baseline thing is so overdue.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #13: December 22, 2023, 01:34:37 PM »
I like all the new rule changes.

Offline Count Walewski

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #14: December 22, 2023, 02:07:39 PM »
The Trea Turner rule, I'm going to call it.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #15: December 22, 2023, 06:26:45 PM »
Good changes.  Keep evolving.

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Re: 2024 rule changes
« Reply #16: December 28, 2023, 03:14:10 PM »
I still hate the DH but this seems like a move in the right direction.