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Re: NFL 2022-23
« Reply #425: January 10, 2023, 10:30:52 AM »
we ought to keep saying Matt Patricia's name just to tick off VaRK. 

BTW - looking forward to Bill O'Brien and a real OC instead of the Matt Patricia / Joe Judge clown show. Joe back to special teams, Matt Patricia to the front office or just the offensive line.   Nepotism may chase Jerrod Mayo.  Interviewing for the DC job in Detroit.  Blocked by Steve Belichick.

How many years does Belichick have until Boston fans turn on him? This years team seemed terrible coached which isn’t something that I ever thought I’d say about a Patriots team

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« Reply #426: January 10, 2023, 10:56:03 AM »
How many years does Belichick have until Boston fans turn on him? This years team seemed terrible coached which isn’t something that I ever thought I’d say about a Patriots team

Even with that they were almost a playoff team

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« Reply #427: January 10, 2023, 11:52:03 AM »
How many years does Belichick have until Boston fans turn on him? This years team seemed terrible coached which isn’t something that I ever thought I’d say about a Patriots team
There's a bit of grumbling, mostly focused on his coaching staff.  BTW - in his collection of busted HCs, there's rumors the Klingsbury is an OC candidate. He was a Brady back up at one point. 

As for that team, you almost hate to give Steve B any credit, but at least they had more playmakers on D than they've had in a long, long time.     Disruptive pass rush (Judon, Uche, Wise, and Barmore/ Ekuale was probably the best combo for pressure), with some nice young corners and safeties (Duggar, Marcus Jones, Jack Jones). Burned a lot by McCourty's decline.  Got to the point where you wanted them to punt on 1st down to get the defense back on the field.  Best way to score in some games. 

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« Reply #428: January 10, 2023, 01:01:08 PM »
There's a bit of grumbling, mostly focused on his coaching staff.  BTW - in his collection of busted HCs, there's rumors the Klingsbury is an OC candidate. He was a Brady back up at one point. 

As for that team, you almost hate to give Steve B any credit, but at least they had more playmakers on D than they've had in a long, long time.     Disruptive pass rush (Judon, Uche, Wise, and Barmore/ Ekuale was probably the best combo for pressure), with some nice young corners and safeties (Duggar, Marcus Jones, Jack Jones). Burned a lot by McCourty's decline.  Got to the point where you wanted them to punt on 1st down to get the defense back on the field.  Best way to score in some games. 

Some of their plays just looked like a poorly coached team. The lateral against the Raiders was something that I'd expect from the Jets not the Patriots

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« Reply #429: January 10, 2023, 01:21:14 PM »
Some of their plays just looked like a poorly coached team. The lateral against the Raiders was something that I'd expect from the Jets not the Patriots
Real breakdown in discipline.  It was 2 of their better players, Stevenson and Meyers, ad-libbing and trying to do too much.  Also, Mac Jones didn't acquit himself too well with a pretty weak attempt at holding up Collins, so Mac got roasted by many of the old timers.

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« Reply #430: January 10, 2023, 02:23:59 PM »
Real breakdown in discipline.  It was 2 of their better players, Stevenson and Meyers, ad-libbing and trying to do too much.  Also, Mac Jones didn't acquit himself too well with a pretty weak attempt at holding up Collins, so Mac got roasted by many of the old timers.

Bill does not treat Mac like he is a potential franchise qb.

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« Reply #431: January 10, 2023, 04:49:08 PM »
Bill does not treat Mac like he is a potential franchise qb.
very odd.  Jones is too pouty.  An affluenza case.  That said, I blame Patricia doubly for his problems.  He doesn't throw that bad of a ball when he's upright.  The occasional behind, overthrow, underthrow, but not that awful.  The problem for much of the season was very poor offensive line play, where Patricia is the primary coach.  Especially the offensive tackles and, for stretches, C when Andrews was out or really hurting. Because the O line did not give him time, they compensated with the absurd short yardage and screen over-reliance and keeping the TEs in.  When they got the O line together more (McDErmott in at rigth tackle helped), he started using Henry, Thornton, Bourne, and Meyers more on longer patterns, and Jones was fine.  Also, using Marcus Jones on offense gave defenses something to worry about.  But MP doghoused Bourne most of the year (top 2021 wideout), threw to Jonnu Smith more than Henry (a favorite of Jones as a rookie),  and failed to find a way to exploit Thornton's speed.  Mac Jones's big problem with the offense is that he's an ass , not his skills.

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« Reply #432: January 12, 2023, 01:27:16 PM »
Carr posts a goodbye to the raiders. Reports are they will try and trade him and if they can’t, will cut him on 2/15

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« Reply #433: January 12, 2023, 02:11:28 PM »
Is his contract tradable?

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« Reply #434: January 12, 2023, 03:17:35 PM »
Is his contract tradable?

As I understand it, if he's on the Raiders roster 3 days after the super bowl, a 3 year / $40 million guarantee kicks in. So the raiders would have to trade him with someone else agreeing to pick up that amount. He also has a no-trade clause.

Seems most likely that the Raiders just cut him and then he finds a new home with a new contract.

I would think the Jets would be first in line for Carr.

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« Reply #435: January 12, 2023, 04:50:48 PM »
As I understand it, if he's on the Raiders roster 3 days after the super bowl, a 3 year / $40 million guarantee kicks in. So the raiders would have to trade him with someone else agreeing to pick up that amount. He also has a no-trade clause.

Seems most likely that the Raiders just cut him and then he finds a new home with a new contract.

I would think the Jets would be first in line for Carr.
This explains it pretty well. What were they thinking when they agreed to pay him $40 million or more a year?

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/10061435-examining-impact-of-derek-carrs-contract-on-potential-raiders-trade-amid-rumors.amp.html

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« Reply #436: January 13, 2023, 06:39:04 PM »
Now the final Divisional standings are known, we can see that it'll be Chiefs v Iggles at Arrowhead, next season... ;) (in what will, hopefully, be a Super Bowl rematch...).

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« Reply #437: January 13, 2023, 06:43:04 PM »
Now the final Divisional standings are known, we can see that it'll be Chiefs v Iggles at Arrowhead, next season... ;) (in what will, hopefully, be a Super Bowl rematch...).
No doubt. 

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« Reply #438: January 13, 2023, 09:29:28 PM »
A four team playoff with the bills, chiefs, bengals, and eagles would have been great.

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« Reply #439: January 14, 2023, 09:21:55 PM »
Rough way for Lawerence to start his playoff career

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« Reply #440: January 14, 2023, 10:26:04 PM »
Jags still have life.

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« Reply #441: January 14, 2023, 10:43:51 PM »
If the Chargers blow this Staley might as well not even get on the flight back to LA.

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« Reply #442: January 14, 2023, 10:58:02 PM »
Jags dumb roughing the passer penalty really hurt them.

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« Reply #443: January 14, 2023, 11:17:51 PM »
Missed an obvious illegal procedure penalty on JAX.

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« Reply #444: January 14, 2023, 11:22:53 PM »
Staley still refuses to blitz.  Will just let them go down for game winning field goal. Brilliant.

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« Reply #445: January 14, 2023, 11:30:04 PM »
Jags were -5 in turnovers. Still won.

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« Reply #446: January 14, 2023, 11:30:53 PM »
Had ‘em all the way.

Man the AFC is good this year.

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« Reply #447: January 14, 2023, 11:31:05 PM »
What a choke job by the Chargers.

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« Reply #448: January 14, 2023, 11:32:02 PM »
Looks like Peyton has a new job.

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« Reply #449: January 14, 2023, 11:42:13 PM »
What a choke job by the Chargers.

The shoe fits.  They were a very weak playoff team.  Their defense was awful during the regular season, and they really showed it in the second half of that game.