Author Topic: Nationals @ Padres, Game 1 (Read 2467 times)

Dave in Fairfax · « **Reply #50 on:** July 06, 2021, 12:39:24 am »

Tatis, Jr. now has one fewer error than Machado, Kim, Cronenworth and Hosmer combined.

GataNats · « **Reply #51 on:** July 06, 2021, 12:42:16 am »

Yadiel Hernandez is a joke

NatNasty · « **Reply #52 on:** July 06, 2021, 12:44:31 am »

GataNats · « **Reply #53 on:** July 06, 2021, 12:59:36 am »

Suero has to develop another pitch

GataNats · « **Reply #54 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:04:02 am »

Soto is not a superstar

Dave in Fairfax · « **Reply #55 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:04:29 am »

Bell!

NatNasty · « **Reply #56 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:04:31 am »

Boom!

GataNats · « **Reply #57 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:04:54 am »

Bell!!!!

GataNats · « **Reply #58 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:09:56 am »

Why bring in Clay?

Dave in Fairfax · « **Reply #59 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:13:11 am »

Quote from: GataNats on July 06, 2021, 01:09:56 am

Why bring in Clay?

That's why

NatNasty · « **Reply #60 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:22:18 am »

Damnit

GataNats · « **Reply #61 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:23:26 am »

Hell of a play

bluestreak · « **Reply #62 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:23:35 am »

Well crap… Damn impressive, though.

NatNasty · « **Reply #63 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:25:25 am »

Da Bar

GataNats · « **Reply #64 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:26:13 am »

What a hit

NatNasty · « **Reply #65 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:31:44 am »

Quote from: Dave in Fairfax on July 06, 2021, 12:39:24 am

Tatis, Jr. now has one fewer ~~error~~ inch of vertical leap than Machado, Kim, Cronenworth and Hosmer combined.

Dave in Fairfax · « **Reply #66 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:45:03 am »

Tatis is not the worst fielding shortstop - right now, that would be Xander Bogaerts - but the occasional flashy play doesn't really make up for his bad defense. If the crowd is going to chant "MVP", it should be deservedly when he's in the batter's box, not the field.

NatNasty · « **Reply #67 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:49:41 am »

Aloha

NatNasty · « **Reply #68 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:56:56 am »

RJ2kWJ · « **Reply #69 on:** July 06, 2021, 01:59:07 am »

Heck of a

OldChelsea · « **Reply #70 on:** July 06, 2021, 08:27:23 am »

THE RACING PRECEDENTS - Comparative dates on which the Nationals notched their 41st win, each season:

2016 - 15th June (66th match of season)
2017 - 16th June (67th match)
2005 - 20th June (70th match)
2012 - 23rd June (69th match)
2014 - 24th June (76th match)
2018 - 24th June (76th match)
2015 - 26th June (74th match)
2019 - 28th June (81st match)
2013 - 30th June (81st match)
2011 – 1st July (82nd match)
2021 - 5th July (83rd match)
2010 – 21st July (95th match)
2006 - 21st July (97th match)
2007 - 21st July (97th match)
2008 - 3rd August (111th match)
2009 - 14th August (116th match)
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2020 - finished 26-34

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #71 on:** July 06, 2021, 09:11:11 am »

Quote from: Dave in Fairfax on July 06, 2021, 01:45:03 am

Tatis is not the worst fielding shortstop - right now, that would be Xander Bogaerts - but the occasional flashy play doesn't really make up for his bad defense. If the crowd is going to chant "MVP", it should be deservedly when he's in the batter's box, not the field.

Great play made when I saw the replay. However you are correct about his defense.

https://calltothepen.com/2021/05/15/fernando-tatis-jr-san-diego-padres-future-designated-hitter/

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #72 on:** July 06, 2021, 10:31:30 am »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on July 06, 2021, 09:11:11 am

Great play made when I saw the replay. However you are correct about his defense.

https://calltothepen.com/2021/05/15/fernando-tatis-jr-san-diego-padres-future-designated-hitter/

He's a 22 year old shortstop. He'll either get it fixed there or move to 1B longer-term post-Hosmer, 3B (a short term switch with Machado), or any of the three outfield spots for which he has the athletic ability.

Anyone suggesting he's going to be a DH any time in the next half-decade should lick a different window before writing the article. Guys who can't stick at SS at 22 might end up at DH, but not until their 30s, and most guys keep improving at SS until their peak years. It's the hardest non-catcher position. Playing it well takes time.

Dave in Fairfax · « **Reply #73 on:** July 06, 2021, 11:31:26 am »

Quote from: Elvir Ovcina on July 06, 2021, 10:31:30 am

He's a 22 year old shortstop. He'll either get it fixed there or move to 1B longer-term post-Hosmer, 3B (a short term switch with Machado), or any of the three outfield spots for which he has the athletic ability.

Anyone suggesting he's going to be a DH any time in the next half-decade should lick a different window before writing the article. Guys who can't stick at SS at 22 might end up at DH, but not until their 30s, and most guys keep improving at SS until their peak years. It's the hardest non-catcher position. Playing it well takes time.

As I noted, it is his offense that makes him one of the greatest young talents in the game. If that remains great, even if he never really fixes his defense he could stay at shortstop. Just ask Derek Jeter, who for his occasional flashy plays was also a bad defensive shortstop. A .310 career BA and over 3000 hits makes up for a lot.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #74 on:** July 06, 2021, 12:07:34 pm »

Quote from: Dave in Fairfax on July 06, 2021, 11:31:26 am

As I noted, it is his offense that makes him one of the greatest young talents in the game. If that remains great, even if he never really fixes his defense he could stay at shortstop. Just ask Derek Jeter, who for his occasional flashy plays was also a bad defensive shortstop. A .310 career BA and over 3000 hits makes up for a lot.

Sure, but Jeter should have been moved off SS in his early 30s at the latest. It was only ego and loyalty that kept him there. With Tatis, there's no reason he couldn't play elite-level CF if given a year or so develop at it. It's a legitimate solution that still preserves the value of his contract while also getting him to a position where he would be a positive on defense. It's not that time yet, but it would come eventually.

Being an elite hitter will keep you in the lineup, but not necessarily at SS. This process just happens in the minors for most guys when it becomes apparent they won't handle SS at the major league level. For Tatis, that door is still open.