Author Topic: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2018) (Read 56499 times)

bluestreak · « **Reply #2175 on:** August 10, 2018, 11:16:04 pm »

I’ts not hindsight. I’ve been saying this since I’ve been on this board. Use your best pitchers in the highest leverage situations and deal with it later.
I’m also not the only person who subscribes to this school of thought.

The dumbest reason in the world to do something is because that’s what’s always been done in the past.

Slateman · « **Reply #2176 on:** August 10, 2018, 11:19:59 pm »

Madson

I guess we all missed the homer that he gave up yesterday with a 4 run lead.

Panther Modern · « **Reply #2177 on:** August 11, 2018, 12:54:23 am »

Quote from: Greg_SRT on August 10, 2018, 11:10:35 pm

And to top it all off, even the WaPo is covering up this extreme freak up by Dave! I just seen the article for the game! And they said Madson was needed to close!

Why is the WaPo covering it up. Trump was right! The news is hella freaking crooked.

You should write all this in a comment on the story's page.

DCFan · « **Reply #2178 on:** August 11, 2018, 06:14:08 am »

Quote from: rileyn on August 10, 2018, 10:15:26 pm

I miss Matt Williams. I never thought I would say that......Thanks, Davey.

Not me. Good riddance.

rileyn · « **Reply #2179 on:** August 11, 2018, 07:40:39 am »

Quote from: DCFan on August 11, 2018, 06:14:08 am

Not me. Good riddance.

It was a joke, but seriously, Davey is no better. He constantly looks like a tourist looking for the nearest bus stop.

DCFan · « **Reply #2180 on:** August 11, 2018, 07:44:41 am »

Quote from: rileyn on August 11, 2018, 07:40:39 am

It was a joke, but seriously, Davey is no better. He constantly looks like a tourist looking for the nearest bus stop.

Yep. He hasn't given me any hope or expectation that he's going to be a top notch MLB manager going forward.

twillia1 · « **Reply #2181 on:** August 11, 2018, 07:59:43 am »

Dave Martinez is a really nice guy who is never going to demand attention to detail or hold people accountable for their play. It is all about balance and passion and I see none of that with him. Anyone up for a run at Buck Showalter when he gets fired at the end of the year?

bluestreak · « **Reply #2182 on:** August 11, 2018, 09:15:51 am »

Quote from: Slateman on August 10, 2018, 11:19:59 pm

Madson I guess we all missed the homer that he gave up yesterday with a 4 run lead.

And...So you give up a homer and you don’t pitch again? Did the homer make his ERA 8? Aroldis Chapman blew a two run lead last week. Did the Yankees stop letting him close?

hotshot · « **Reply #2183 on:** August 11, 2018, 09:21:38 am »

Quote from: twillia1 on August 11, 2018, 07:59:43 am

Dave Martinez is a really nice guy who is never going to demand attention to detail or hold people accountable for their play. It is all about balance and passion and I see none of that with him. Anyone up for a run at Buck Showalter when he gets fired at the end of the year?

Buck is 10x the manager Davey will ever be but ... this season with the O's has got to have taken a terrible mental and physical toll on the man. Needs a year off to try to recover.

Slateman · « **Reply #2184 on:** August 11, 2018, 11:39:17 am »

Quote from: bluestreak on August 11, 2018, 09:15:51 am

And...So you give up a homer and you don’t pitch again? Did the homer make his ERA 8? Aroldis Chapman blew a two run lead last week. Did the Yankees stop letting him close?

Hes 37. Like maybe using him on back to back stressful outings is not a good idea?

bluestreak · « **Reply #2185 on:** August 11, 2018, 12:50:17 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 11, 2018, 11:39:17 am

Hes 37. Like maybe using him on back to back stressful outings is not a good idea?

I didn’t even say Madson. Are you honestly saying Greg Holland was the best pitcher in the bullpen?

Slateman · « **Reply #2186 on:** August 11, 2018, 02:25:27 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on August 11, 2018, 12:50:17 pm

I didn’t even say Madson. Are you honestly saying Greg Holland was the best pitcher in the bullpen?

I'm saying it really didnt matter. There isn't a "good" option

UMDNats · « **Reply #2187 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:06:38 pm »

someone tell me how it's martinez's fault that madson just pooped his pants

Slateman · « **Reply #2188 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:07:50 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on August 12, 2018, 11:06:38 pm

someone tell me how it's martinez's fault that madson just pooped his pants

He should have pulled him after the second HBP

skippy1999 · « **Reply #2189 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:09:04 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on August 12, 2018, 11:06:38 pm

someone tell me how it's martinez's fault that madson just pooped his pants

It’s not. He, and Max, deserved better.

spidernat · « **Reply #2190 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:11:21 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 12, 2018, 11:07:50 pm

He should have pulled him after the second HBP

you're a freaking clown

UMDNats · « **Reply #2191 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:13:13 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on August 12, 2018, 11:09:04 pm

It’s not. He, and Max, deserved better.

Max is going to murder this team

Slateman · « **Reply #2192 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:28:14 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on August 12, 2018, 11:11:21 pm

you're a freaking clown

should he not have?

Madson has said on multiple occasions he doesnt like closing.
The last time he came in, he gave up a bomb.
His control was crap all night. He hit two batters.

Martinez should have yanked him. If it were Herrera or Doolittle, I'd understand. But it's a guy that has struggled all year, in a situation he doesnt want to be in.

MorseTheHorse · « **Reply #2193 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:31:38 pm »

Wait, Madson said he didn't like closing? That's pathetic!

APBA Baseball · « **Reply #2194 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:44:17 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 12, 2018, 11:07:50 pm

He should have pulled him after the second HBP

EXACTLY. you cant allow a guy that hit 2 batters to continue. Its not Bruce Sutter here. Its a journeyman guy lucky to have a job. Some of the guys defending Madson, my God, stop defending him like he's Mariano Rivera. He is 2 notches above a scrub.

raleighnat · « **Reply #2195 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:47:49 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on August 12, 2018, 11:13:13 pm

Max is going to murder this team

We should trade him out of a sense of decency

Air Desmond · « **Reply #2196 on:** August 12, 2018, 11:49:53 pm »

It’s hard to blame Davey for this one. That was just a complete meltdown in the 9th. Difo’s error was the first snowball. Then Madson hits 2 batters. Then the avalanche. Quite impressive actually. I don’t even remember Soriano pulling something like this off. Pinch hit walk off grand slam.

I do wonder why Miller was warming up. What was the point? He should’ve came in after Madson hit Contreras. This was a must win game. A series the Nats very well could’ve swept, they lose 2/3 in soul crushing fashion.

Five Banners · « **Reply #2197 on:** August 13, 2018, 12:00:05 am »

Quote from: Slateman on August 12, 2018, 11:07:50 pm

He should have pulled him after the second HBP

I did think that the 2 hit batsmen was a clue that it might not have been his night and that examining other options was warranted...

Jeff in Gaithersburg · « **Reply #2198 on:** August 13, 2018, 12:10:21 am »

Quote from: Air Desmond on August 12, 2018, 11:49:53 pm

It’s hard to blame Davey for this one. That was just a complete meltdown in the 9th. Difo’s error was the first snowball. Then Madson hits 2 batters. Then the avalanche. Quite impressive actually. I don’t even remember Soriano pulling something like this off. Pinch hit walk off grand slam.

I do wonder why Miller was warming up. What was the point? He should’ve came in after Madson hit Contreras. This was a must win game. A series the Nats very well could’ve swept, they lose 2/3 in soul crushing fashion.

This one is on Davey. Clearly had Miller warming up in case Bote hit a single or double and made it 3-1 or 3-2 and would have pulled Madson at that point, but should not have left him in once he hit the 2nd batter and the bases were juiced. Was clear as day Madson didn't have it tonight. Davey was asleep at the wheel yet again in a pressure situation.

Expos · « **Reply #2199 on:** August 13, 2018, 03:19:20 am »

Quote from: APBA Baseball on August 12, 2018, 11:44:17 pm

EXACTLY. you cant allow a guy that hit 2 batters to continue. Its not Bruce Sutter here. Its a journeyman guy lucky to have a job. Some of the guys defending Madson, my God, stop defending him like he's Mariano Rivera. He is 2 notches above a scrub.

1 notch man. He is done. Was done a long time ago.