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Offline catocony

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2018, 02:30:00 am »
Being back 7 with only 62 games to go is a lot.  Especially when you're 2 games under .500

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2018, 03:54:40 am »
SO...

quite simply, and it seems odd to say in a way, but it does seem like there are always more voices when there is something to lament, than something to admire.  AND, I dearly hope I am wrong--I truly, truly do--as I desperately want to see this team win, and it should have been, to continue to win, as they have done, and it would be amazing to see this team be the Dodgers of the very recent past, where they were under-achievers, and had that amazing second half...

...BUT...

I am dearly sorry--to especially myself--to say that to see this team as anything other than a complete bust, is inane; and this span of ball specifically on exhibition to any who could still manage to watch the continued demise of this team from just before the all-star game, to now, says everything you need to know about how laughable (sadly, laughable) this team is.  and, even worse to me, is how the organization as a whole will seem to bear the lasting impression of this negativity linger more, than all that was positive that came before.

I honestly cannot believe how systemic this collapse seems to be, to me, in basically all facets of the game, and the proof is simply in how bad this team currently is, a year removed...well...from last year, and the years before...

I can't not think of how laughable it is to see that Turner was sat down, by this manager, just after the best that can be said about the supposed superstar of this team--and league--faced nothing but some sort of a conversation for not running out that double-play before the all-star game (besides other ‘like’ instances).  and, quite simply, OF COURSE Turner should have faced this.  but , so should every player.  and another recent example, to quickly and simply say, was when Pedro saw similar ramifications for pimping that home run, but for others these details don’t carry the same weight.

And, I will be the first to admit that I now have a healthy dislike for Harper, so I will go out of my way to take notice of him, and to lament him, but again, as this most recent stretch of baseball from just before the all-star game, to now, is what seems to illustrate everything to me, I will think of Harper going from not running out that double-play ball, in a game that matters, to the Harper of the home run derby, supposedly showing his grit and true superstar abilities, by going all out to promote himself by swinging for those lovely soft-tossed exhibition balls, in not even a game that doesn’t matter.

And there is no fair accountability on a team that has been long-lost, so it probably wouldn’t have mattered anyways.  but now, to see the ‘statement’ in sitting down Turner?  and this, after the other ace of the team had such an unaspiring return to the lineup, in a statement game, to start the second half, only to see another loss, and the interaction between Stephen and Max be the lasting impression.  and so the moves that this organization has made, from a rookie manager whose results are what they are, to the pitching, which is under-performing, to the offense, which is under-performing, is simply where this team seems cemented to be.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2018, 07:42:47 am »
Time to get behind the Phillies y'all. Come out to Cincy this weekend and take in a game with me.  :poke:

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2018, 07:50:05 am »
Being back 7 with only 62 games to go is a lot.  Especially when you're 2 games under .500

It's a lot. But it's been done before.

Snowman told The Bandit that getting to Texarkana and back in 28 hours ain't never been done before... not in no rig.


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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2018, 09:23:17 am »
hey, I remember the Braves in 2011.  I try to forget the Red Sox in 2011. 

Sure, it can be done.  Is it reasonable to expect it to be done?  What do you think PHI's and ATL's responses would be if we did make moves to try to challenge them?  Which organization could trade more top 100 prospects and not miss them? 

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2018, 09:25:21 am »
hey, I remember the Braves in 2011.  I try to forget the Red Sox in 2011. 

Sure, it can be done.  Is it reasonable to expect it to be done?  What do you think PHI's and ATL's responses would be if we did make moves to try to challenge them?  Which organization could trade more top 100 prospects and not miss them?

There response has been to play slightly better than we have since June 1st.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2018, 09:28:48 am »
Time to get behind the Phillies y'all.


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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2018, 09:33:48 am »
We can still come back from this. It’s hardly slim percentages right now.

If anything having to scrape our way into the playoffs as a wild card team would be the best thing to happen to them.

They'd have to earn it instead of listening to the hype about how they are the team to beat and World Series favorites every year.

Sadly, this team lacks the urgency and balls to earn their way in.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2018, 09:34:11 am »

The only way to stop a Barves division title BIL. They may pick up Cole Hamels which will make it easier for you.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2018, 09:35:33 am »
At the rate things are going now the Nats would have to pull a late surge on the scale of the 1951 Giants...something that pretty much happens once in a lifetime.

Philly and Atlanta would have to cool off considerably too, and neither team is showing much in the way of signs of doing this.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2018, 09:35:55 am »
There response has been to play slightly better than we have since June 1st.
I suspect they will be active at the deadline.  Right now, both are in playoff position. Let's see what they do if that is potentially threatened.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2018, 09:50:19 am »
Roark starts next?

Root for the win each game. The Nats can finish .500. Wait til next year. Find some starting pitchers.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2018, 09:54:33 am »
At the rate things are going now the Nats would have to pull a late surge on the scale of the 1951 Giants...something that pretty much happens once in a lifetime.

Philly and Atlanta would have to cool off considerably too, and neither team is showing much in the way of signs of doing this.
Both teams have cooled off already and have been playing .500 ball the past few weeks. That was the window for the Nats to gain ground and instead they lost ground.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2018, 09:55:11 am »
Roark starts next?

Root for the win each game. The Nats can finish .500. Wait til next year. Find some starting pitchers.
Why .500?  Let them lose most of the games and move up in the draft.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2018, 10:00:21 am »
The only way to stop a Barves division title BIL. They may pick up Cole Hamels which will make it easier for you.

I hate both Atlanta and Philly equally. I might hate the Phillies just a tad more actually.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2018, 10:02:37 am »
Roark starts next?

Root for the win each game. The Nats can finish .500. Wait til next year. Find some starting pitchers.

Finishing at .500 while selling off 0 assets would be par for the course for this crap sandwich of a team.

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Re: July 24th - 49-50, need to go 40-23 to take the division
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2018, 10:27:44 am »
I hate both Atlanta and Philly equally. I might hate the Phillies just a tad more actually.
I will light some candles for you BIL.

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2018, 10:57:52 am »
LOL. No chance.

This is a team comprised of a bunch of losers who should be ashamed at their performance. Did Max punch Strasburg yet? One guy wants to win, the other is happy milking injuries.

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2018, 01:55:51 pm »
At the rate things are going now the Nats would have to pull a late surge on the scale of the 1951 Giants...something that pretty much happens once in a lifetime.

Well now the giants were I think 13 back on August 15.   We're not quite there yet.

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2018, 02:26:12 pm »
Why is it you think we only need 89 wins to win the division?

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2018, 02:46:29 pm »
Why is it you think we only need 89 wins to win the division?
A quick calculation, if the Phillies go .500 the rest of the way (which is quite possible) they win 87.   Atlanta 86 (I think).

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2018, 03:38:51 pm »
I will light some candles for you BIL.

Please don't.  You'll probably pour the hot candle wax on yourself or something since your a Philthy fan, and we don't need anyone getting hurt.

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Re: July 25th - 49-51, need to go 40-22 to take the division
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2018, 03:41:52 pm »
Please don't.  You'll probably pour the hot candle wax on yourself or something since your a Philthy fan, and we don't need anyone getting hurt.
Thanks for the kind thought.