Author Topic: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2 (Read 27219 times)

Slateman · « **Reply #125:** September 18, 2015, 09:04:18 PM »

Quote from: skippy1999 on September 18, 2015, 09:00:47 PM

Let's see Max get bounced between starter and reliever a season long and then we can compare

Been a starter for a month now. And he didn't seem to have a problem bouncing between rotation and bullpen in 2013.

spidernat · « **Reply #126:** September 18, 2015, 09:05:01 PM »

comedy gold

varoadking · « **Reply #127:** September 18, 2015, 09:08:07 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 18, 2015, 09:04:18 PM

Been a starter for a month now. And he didn't seem to have a problem bouncing between rotation and bullpen in 2013.

Max has been a starter all year and didn't have problems last year, and look at the hot mess he has become...

skippy1999 · « **Reply #128:** September 18, 2015, 09:09:00 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:08:07 PM

Max has been a starter all year and didn't have problems last year, and look at the hot mess he has become...

Thank you VaRK, voice of reason right here

spidernat · « **Reply #129:** September 18, 2015, 09:09:05 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:08:07 PM

Max has been a starter all year and didn't have problems last year, and look at the hot mess he has become...

I think you may actually be helping out Slate's point.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #130:** September 18, 2015, 09:09:37 PM »

Now, now. Calm down everyone. The team needs both Max and Tanner to be good next year.

skippy1999 · « **Reply #131:** September 18, 2015, 09:10:46 PM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on September 18, 2015, 09:09:37 PM

Now, now. Calm down everyone. The team needs both Max and Tanner to be good next year.

You're right, Phillie fan

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #132:** September 18, 2015, 09:11:46 PM »

Quote from: skippy1999 on September 18, 2015, 09:10:46 PM

You're right, Phillie fan

I usually am.

varoadking · « **Reply #133:** September 18, 2015, 09:12:02 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on September 18, 2015, 09:09:05 PM

I think you may actually be helping out Slate's point.

Nah...Slate is used to Government waste so he thinks Max was a good deal. Max will have a worse record than Roark did last year...at 60X the price.

Slateman · « **Reply #134:** September 18, 2015, 09:13:22 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:08:07 PM

Max has been a starter all year and didn't have problems last year, and look at the hot mess he has become...

Yes. Damn that sub 3 ERA, sub 3 FIP, and 5+ WAR season.

Slateman · « **Reply #135:** September 18, 2015, 09:14:01 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:12:02 PM

Nah...Slate is used to Government waste so he thinks Max was a good deal. Max will have a worse record than Roark did last year...at 60X the price.

Too bad Roark can't repeat what he did last year.

Don't think Max was a good deal. But in a sport with no cap on salary, who the freak cares about deals?

KV · « **Reply #136:** September 18, 2015, 09:14:24 PM »

Ichiro is pretty fast for a 65-year-old man

spidernat · « **Reply #137:** September 18, 2015, 09:15:09 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 18, 2015, 09:14:01 PM

Too bad Roark can't repeat what he did last year.

Look on the bright side, like many previous Nats, he now has a built in excuse for the rest of his career.

skippy1999 · « **Reply #138:** September 18, 2015, 09:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 18, 2015, 09:14:01 PM

Too bad Roark can't repeat what he did last year.

Don't think Max was a good deal. But in a sport with no cap on salary, who the freak cares about deals?

You have to, there's only so much money an owner will spend and when a huge chunk of your payroll becomes allocated to older, less productive players you can go out and get the better young ones

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #139:** September 18, 2015, 09:16:32 PM »

We don't know yet if he can repeat what he did last year.

Quote from: Slateman on September 18, 2015, 09:14:01 PM

Too bad Roark can't repeat what he did last year.

Don't think Max was a good deal. But in a sport with no cap on salary, who the freak cares about deals?

varoadking · « **Reply #140:** September 18, 2015, 09:16:33 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 18, 2015, 09:13:22 PM

Yes. Damn that sub 3 ERA, sub 3 FIP, and 5+ WAR season.

3 good outings saved his season stats. Roark had a better ERA and a 5.1 WAR in 2014...and gave up 16 homers all year vs. 24 so far for Max...at 1/60th the price.

spidernat · « **Reply #141:** September 18, 2015, 09:19:19 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:16:33 PM

3 good outings saved his season stats.

This is totally false.

PC · « **Reply #142:** September 18, 2015, 09:19:59 PM »

Dear Lord, Rivero...

skippy1999 · « **Reply #143:** September 18, 2015, 09:20:01 PM »

Dammit why is Ichiro still so flippin fast

Slateman · « **Reply #144:** September 18, 2015, 09:20:07 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:16:33 PM

3 good outings saved his season stats. Roark had a better ERA and a 5.1 WAR in 2014...and gave up 16 homers all year vs. 24 so far for Max...at 1/60th the price.

3 good outings .... plus the entire first half, right?

3.47 FIP last year with a .270 BABIP and 3.4 WAR. ERA of 4.73 this year. 2014 was a fluke. He can't repeat the performance. In fact, he has regressed since he came to the big leagues in 2013. 1.51 ERA with a .243 BABIP in 2013. Up to a 2.85 ERA and .270 BABIP last year. This year, he's over 4 with a league normal BABIP of .306.

You don't pay those max money contracts for one year. You pay it for years of being consistently great.

PC · « **Reply #145:** September 18, 2015, 09:20:24 PM »

The bullpen again.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #146:** September 18, 2015, 09:20:33 PM »

Where's Drew when we need him?

skippy1999 · « **Reply #147:** September 18, 2015, 09:20:47 PM »

Great, Matt ruined Felipe too

varoadking · « **Reply #148:** September 18, 2015, 09:22:19 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on September 18, 2015, 09:19:19 PM

This is totally false.

His no-hitter, one hitter and another one other shutout sandwiched in between drove his ERA down to where is is. He's a career 3.5 ERA pitcher with few complete games other than those.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #149:** September 18, 2015, 09:23:42 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 18, 2015, 09:22:19 PM

His no-hitter, one hitter and another one other shutout sandwiched in between drove his ERA down to where is is. He's a career 3.5 ERA pitcher with few complete games other than those.

It all counts. If you throw those out you have to throw out his three worst starts.