Deaths of famous people (2014)

[tomterp]

Eh, I'd like to think there's a happy medium between yuppie needledick paradise and disused war zone.  If we judge a place on music then Imperial Europe is the pinnacle of civilization.

I blame in on the gays.   

(mindfact alert) First they establish a beachhead by buying up the cool old houses in crappy neighborhoods because they are cheap and meet stringent aesthetical requirements.  Then come the DINCs, and then the rout is on.

[mitlen]

Hey, you edited your post.     

Anacostia was a working class white neighborhood back in the day.  I don't know why blacks began moving in in the 50's, but I'm sure it was not a trend favorably received by the indigenous population.  Apartments / houses were cheap and affordable, making it feasible.  White flight would have exacerbated the downward pressure on housing costs.  The prospect of increased crime would be the primary driver in white flight. 

VaRK will tell you I'm pretty good at the ninja edit.       IMHO, it wasn't the prospect of increased crime as much as it was the color of your new neighbor.    The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.     We agree to disagree.    This means you owe me a beer next season.

[tomterp]

VaRk will tell you I'm pretty good a the ninja edit.       IMHO, it wasn't the prospect of increased crime as much as it was the color of your new neighbor.    We agree to disagree.    This means you owe me a beer next season.

My great grandfather lived for a while in Anacostia.  I'm sure racism is part of it, but to him it was obvious that crime and blight would accompany a demographic shift, and it's hard to disagree with him on the outcome. 

So maybe we should head down to one of those new needledick bars in Anacostia and I'll serve you up a nice cold Pabst.   

[KnorrForYourMoney]

I blame in on the gays.   

(mindfact alert) First they establish a beachhead by buying up the cool old houses in crappy neighborhoods because they are cheap and meet stringent aesthetical requirements.  Then come the DINCs, and then the rout is on.

That's actually a well-known fact.  It's been proven in academia.

Thankfully, I couldn't give two craps about my housing situation aside from insulation, so I'll never be one of those d-bags.  I derive my pleasure from food.

[mitlen]

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My great grandfather lived for a while in Anacostia.  I'm sure racism is part of it, but to him it was obvious that crime and blight would accompany a demographic shift, and it's hard to disagree with him on the outcome. 

So maybe we should head down to one of those new needledick bars in Anacostia and I'll serve you up a nice cold Pabst.   

I've been in this area over 40 years.    I remember the first time one of my white acquaintances told me he lived in Anacostia as a kid.     He told me many a story about the white middle class in Anacostia and the neighborhoods  ...   stores  ....  kids playing ball, etc.     I've been in a few of what will become needledick bars in Anacostia.    Back in the 70's, I went to house parties in Anacostia.    The only colors that mattered were gold, red, etc.   

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Dudes walking pugs and then it's all granite counters, Thermidore ranges, and fattie bikes.

[tomterp]

Dudes walking pugs and then it's all granite counters, Thermidore ranges, and fattie bikes.

 

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Things really went south in Anacostia in the early/mid 80s though. Also half of northwest. I lived at 14th & S NW when I was in high school, and it was freaking crack madness.

I've been in this area over 40 years.    I remember the first time one of my white acquaintances told me he lived in Anacostia as a kid.     He told me many a story about the white middle class in Anacostia and the neighborhoods  ...   stores  ....  kids playing ball, etc.     I've been in a few of what will become needledick bars in Anacostia.    Back in the 70's, I went to house parties in Anacostia.    The only colors that mattered were gold, red, etc.   

[Vega]

Dudes walking pugs and then it's all granite counters, Thermidore ranges, and fattie bikes.

And $400 blenders.

[RobDibblesGhost]

I wouldn't be surprised if the voters of DC keep voting him into office.  If his drug addictions and other personal problems couldn't stop him from getting re-elected, why should death?

[KnorrForYourMoney]

I wouldn't be surprised if the voters of DC keep voting him into office.  If his drug addictions and other personal problems couldn't stop him from getting re-elected, why should death?

If North Korea can have a necrocracy, then DC sure can.

[MarquisDeSade]

Dudes walking pugs and then it's all granite counters, Thermidore ranges, and fattie bikes.

Big fail on your part though - I don't like dogs.

[Mathguy]

You have to get out and live in the rest of the country Ali.  You've been in DC way too long.  One of the things I picked up on when living in the DC area was to watch out for the natives.  The native DC person has been watching Capital Hill all their life.  They don't trust anyone.

Things really went south in Anacostia in the early/mid 80s though. Also half of northwest. I lived at 14th & S NW when I was in high school, and it was freaking crack madness.

[mitlen]

Things really went south in Anacostia in the early/mid 80s though. Also half of northwest. I lived at 14th & S NW when I was in high school, and it was freaking crack madness.

Yup, it went crazy.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Yup, it went crazy.

Frankly, it might have only been a matter of degree, but just about every city went crazy when you had the combination of the start of the crack epidemic and a large cohort turning into their 20s with a declining urban economy.  Every place had spikes in violent crime and murder rates and many had a rise in gangs.  Guess what?  That cohort aged, the folks who were going to shoot or be shot were shot or jailed, and surprise, crime rates went down.  Didn't matter if it was stop and frisk Giuliani, Barry / Kelly outreach, Menino and the religious leaders building one city and doing anti-gun stuff.  With the safety came the gentrification.  It is almost as if the Mayors didn't really matter except on the margins (of course, then there is B'more . . .).

The spread of drugs and the coming of the GWOT led to a public tolerant of liberty restrictions and a court system more than happy to accept theories allowing it.

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

There's a conspiracy under your very nose in OBX...have you ever stopped to wonder why all of the cashiers in supermarkets are nubile young things from eastern Europe?  You think that's just a coincidence?!  It might feel idyllic right now, but something isn't right.   

You have to get out and live in the rest of the country Ali.  You've been in DC way too long.  One of the things I picked up on when living in the DC area was to watch out for the natives.  The native DC person has been watching Capital Hill all their life.  They don't trust anyone.

[tomterp]

There's a conspiracy under your very nose in OBX...have you ever stopped to wonder why all of the cashiers in supermarkets are nubile young things from eastern Europe?  You think that's just a coincidence?!  It might feel idyllic right now, but something isn't right.

One of those little nymphs lifted my credit card number once.     

[mitlen]

Viktor Tikhonov and Pat Quinn

[varoadking]

Viktor Tikhonov and Pat Quinn

Quinn was a young man...shame...

[mitlen]

Wow, just heard this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/legendary-rolling-stones-saxophonist-bobby-keys-has-died-n260166

[blue911]

RIP Jean Beliveau.

[mitlen]

Bryan Burwell

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/11978134/bryan-burwell-st-louis-post-dispatch-dies-59

[varoadking]

Bryan Burwell

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/11978134/bryan-burwell-st-louis-post-dispatch-dies-59

Shame...a young man...and I really liked his work.

[mitlen]

Shame...a young man...and I really liked his work.

Always liked him on "Sports Reporters".

[imref]

Joe Co cker, age 70.

This is one of my favorite songs of all time.