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Offline JMW IV

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Broadway = Gone.
« on: March 18, 2007, 12:25:34 pm »
to make room for Dmitri Young.

 
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Broadway demoted, Young promoted [Mark Zuckerman]

The Nationals optioned Larry Broadway to Class AAA Columbus this morning and promoted Dmitri Young from minor-league camp, throwing a new wrinkle into the club's first-base competition.


Broadway, despite hitting .333 in 11 games this spring, was told he was being demoted because the club was looking for more offense at first base and wanted to give Young a shot. Broadway, 26, had only one extra-base hit this spring.


"I'm very surprised," Broadway said before packing his bags to leave for the Nationals' minor-league complex. "They said they didn't see enough power out of me this spring. They wanted to see what Dmitri had to offer."


Young, 33, was signed to a minor-league contract shortly after camp opened, then set out to get himself into playing shape after a traumatic 2006 (in which he spent time in an alcohol rehab center, was charged with domestic assault, was released by the Tigers and ultimately was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes). He was given a chance to play in a split-squad game Thursday night and impressed GM Jim Bowden by going 2-for-3 with a homer and an RBI single off Dodgers ace Jason Schmidt.


Young is due to be in the Nationals' starting lineup today against the Marlins, batting sixth. He'll now compete with fellow veteran Travis Lee, who is hitting .313 with one homer and six RBI in 11 games, for the Opening Day job at first base.

this doesn't make much sense to me, and it reeks of Bowden trying to "hook his boy up" with a job.

it's a little early to be demoting Broadway, imo.  if he was gonna get cut, he should have been one of the last, and should have been given all spring to earn or not earn.

commence arguing.

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2007, 01:01:34 pm »
Bowden was just on the radio and said the reason was Travis Lee had already outplayed Broadway enough. So, now it is between Young and Lee. I am not sure I understand it, but in a way it makes sense. Maybe Young or Lee can produce enough in the spring to be traded before the season for young pitching, and the other can be traded before July 31st and then Broadway can play.

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 01:54:44 pm »
Lee better get the starting job.  I'll be pissed if Young gets it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2007, 01:57:11 pm »
I'm a little disappointed by this. Broadway seemed to be hitting pretty decently this spring, and he's much more a part of the future of the Nationals than Lee or Young. I'd have liked to get him some major league playing time in a year where we won't be competitive and it wouldn't really hurt the team to get him some experience.

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 02:07:27 pm »
I think it is worth a try to build up Lee or Young's stock so they can be traded

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2007, 02:29:27 pm »
Of the three, Broadway, Lee and Young, Young is the much better hitter. With the weak rotation the Nats might end up with, the move makes sense. Broadway is supposed to be a power hitter and hasn't show any power at all, not even wind assisted.

Everyone knows Lee is a much better defensive first baseman, but can the Nats afford to have TWO anemic bats (his and Logan's) in the lineup? The answer is no. It's all well and good to use this year to experiment on different younger players, but not at the expense of not being able to put up runs for the starting pitchers, who will need all the help they can get. Besides, neither Young or Lee is considered to be part of the youth movement. Odds are both Young and Lee will make the opening day roster, with Young getting the starts because of his bat, and Lee coming in a bit early than is normal for his glove work. If Lee can get his bat going while he gets those late innings chances, he'll ease his way into the starting lineup, unless Young is putting up good numbers.

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2007, 03:47:22 pm »
If Young was making $8-$10 million before his problems, with a good career batting average in MLB, it makes sense to take advantage of it for $750,000.  Bargain - I thought the only reason he was sent to minors was to teach him humility and find out how badly he wants to be back in the Big Show.  He's trade bait for good pitching in 2008.  Lee will be around.

And sit Logan down too if necessary.  We don't need to have any anemic bats, when there are other players who can hit.  Snelling has earned a starting spot at this point.

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2007, 03:53:49 pm »
I freakin hate Young. Abused his wife or whatever, drug issues, I just don't like having players like that on the team.

I'm not looking forward to seeing him at 1st base on opening day. At least Broadway has a future, Young, does not.

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2007, 03:59:49 pm »
Hate this move. I had high hopes for Broadway, and i thought this was his moment to shine due to the Nicky J injury. I hate it even more because they demoted him in favor of Dmitri Young.

He looks like he's more suited to be a spokesman for the Geico caveman commercials instead of a starting 1B in the big leagues. He is clearly out of shape, and it's mind boggling how he gets the edge over Larry Broadway who has a promising future. Oh well, i hope Lee wins the job. I wonder how high Young can jump for a baseball thrown over his head, or how far he can stretch for a ball carrying to the right.

O ya, and Nats2Playoffs it's not all about hitting. Nook is our best fielding outfielder, and we will have one of the slowest outfields w/o him. He can track down any ball with his blazing speed. We will see a lot of dropped balls if he is not patrolling CF. I think our outfield should consist of Church, Logan, Austin.

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 06:01:21 pm »
We are going to need to find ways to get Snelling AB's. He should be able to start at least once every 3 games. This would work, with each one of the regular outfielders getting 1 out of every 9 days off. On the days Logan is off, Church or Kearns can just play center. I think it would be possible to get 200-250ABs out of him this year. Should definitely be enough to see what he can do.

I'm still a bit unsure about the 1B situation. I feel they didn't give Broadway a legitimate shot. His batting average was fine, and 7 hits is not enough to gauge power. He didn't hit any homeruns, but a player who hits 30 HRs in a full season will hit one homerun in each 20 at-bats. Thats all Broadway had. There is no point in letting him sit around at AAA. He either needs to come help us or we need to trade him because he isn't that young anymore (isnt he 26 or 27?) and his trade value will go down fast.

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2007, 06:02:52 pm »
Bowden was just on the radio and said the reason was Travis Lee had already outplayed Broadway enough. So, now it is between Young and Lee. I am not sure I understand it, but in a way it makes sense. Maybe Young or Lee can produce enough in the spring to be traded before the season for young pitching, and the other can be traded before July 31st and then Broadway can play.

That makes sense actually. Lee at this point is the guy that makes sense to start at 1B given the need for defense and the fact that he has been batting well. Broadway simply did not blow anybody away. With the business need to deal with options, a need for offense, etc. they have to at least see what Young can do. So, while a bit disappointing in a way, they need to make evaluations. Lee is also a switch hitter, while the other candidates are all lefties, so that provides an option when going against lefty starters.

Young certainly has a nice bat. That being said, being at today's game, I found Lee likeable but a liability. He is about as confidence-inducing at 1B as Matt LeCroy. He's serviceable, but my feeling is that he will cost us. His biggest blunder today was really the baserunning. Anyone else should have scored from first on Flores's 2-out popout down the line, Young was nearly thrown out at third. Yeah, they all thought it was going to be foul, but who cares. Run it out, and it is 3-2. Then Lee would have tied it up in the 9th because they would have sent him when the ball was hit down the RF line while he was on second.

I don't mind the experiment with Lee, because this is the trade bait that we need. But hopefully, this is short-term. Broadway is also caught in a numbers game because if the spot opened for a younger player, that nod may go to Casto.  

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2007, 06:04:50 pm »
We are going to need to find ways to get Snelling AB's. He should be able to start at least once every 3 games.

Absolutely.

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2007, 08:23:02 pm »
I don't remember where i heard it, but i heard some stat that Travis Lee had the best fielding percentage for 1B? I think it was some astonishing number like .987.   :shock:

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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2007, 10:32:24 pm »
   I still think there is some promise in Broadway, but the team has a good point. Hitting .333 is outstanding, but when you get 7 hits, and 6 of them are singles, there is something wrong. He has shown to be a good contact hitter, now he needs to get some power in that bat.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2007, 10:43:20 pm »
Young Promoted, Broadway Demoted
Nationals Summon Veteran First Baseman From Their Minor League Facility
By Dave Sheinin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 19, 2007; E07
LINK: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/18/AR2007031801164.html

VIERA, Fla., March 18 -- Dmitri Young strolled through the Washington Nationals' clubhouse Sunday morning, lugging a duffel bag full of gear and wearing jeans and a vintage peace sign T-shirt, just as Larry Broadway exited the shower, wearing only a towel. A half-dozen lockers apart in an otherwise empty room but never looking at each other, Young carefully donned his Nationals uniform while Broadway threw on his jeans, one career on the verge of resuscitation, the other on the edge of an abyss.

Sunday was the day the Nationals finally brought Young, 33, over from their minor league facility, where he had spent the last five weeks getting back in shape following a tumultuous 2006 with the Detroit Tigers. But the move came with a sobering corollary: Broadway was sent to the minors, left to face a third straight year at Class AAA and, at 26, the growing realization that what may have been his best shot at the majors had just slipped away.

"It was very surprising," Broadway said in quiet tones. "They said they didn't see enough power, and they wanted to see what Dmitri had to offer. I actually thought this was one of my best springs. I'd been getting hits and trying to be patient at the plate."

Broadway was hitting .333, but had only one extra-base hit, a double, among his seven hits. For a team expected to lack offensive firepower, particularly with regular first baseman Nick Johnson out until at least midseason, that is not good enough. The Nationals need to see balls flying over fences, not trickling through the infield grass. To make room for Young, the team needed to send away Broadway or veteran Travis Lee, and Lee has three extra-base hits this spring and twice as many RBI (six) as Broadway.

"Larry swung the bat okay at times," General Manager Jim Bowden said. "He just didn't do the damage we were hoping to [see]. . . . We're going north in 10 days. There's not a lot of time left. We felt Travis Lee had beat out Larry Broadway. We felt with only 10 days to go, it was important to get Dmitri Young at-bats now and let the competition continue between the two of them."

Manager Manny Acta, who informed Broadway of the decision in his office, said Broadway took the news well. The Nationals had hoped Broadway would seize the opportunity created by Johnson's injury, but the additions of Lee and Young in January and February, respectively, signaled the team's questions about him.

"We gave him a fair shot," Acta said. Asked if Broadway still had a future with the Nationals, Acta said, "He's a young man. . . . He had a decent season last year in Triple-A. He put the bat on the ball here in spring training. He held his own. So yeah, I don't see why not. He has to convince people he is ready. Drive the ball and take that job again."

Although Nationals officials said Lee remains in the running for the first base job, Acta may have telegraphed the team's intentions Saturday when he said the team will value offensive production above all else at first base. Lee, 31, is a career .256 hitter known for his defensive skills, while Young is a career .289 hitter who hit 21 homers as recently as 2005. And with super-utility man Robert Fick a virtual lock to make the team because of his ability to play catcher, first base and outfield, the team will not carry both Lee and Young.

Young homered and singled off Los Angeles Dodgers ace Jason Schmidt during a split-squad game Thursday night, and went for 1 for 2 Sunday in a 3-1 loss to the Florida Marlins, with a double, a line-out and a walk. On defense, he appeared solid, making nice plays on a popup over his shoulder and a grounder to his right.

The only remaining questions about Young are whether he can play first base -- the Tigers last year pulled the plug on him after he made three errors in a game July 31 -- and whether his personal troubles are behind him. His 2006 season included a two-month absence while he underwent drug and alcohol rehabilitation, and a no-contest plea to a misdemeanor charge of domestic violence. The Tigers released him in September, just before embarking on a postseason run that took them to the American League pennant.

"I'm just coming out here to have fun and be the Dmitri of old," Young said Sunday. "Having a clear head and not having anything affecting me or anything like that, that's what's been helpful."

Asked if he could put up numbers similar to his career norm if given 500 at-bats with the Nationals, he said, "And then some."

As Young grabbed his bat and glove and headed toward the field, and Broadway reached into his jeans pocket for his car keys, their paths crossed and they had a brief exchange in passing.

"Just 'good luck,' basically," Young said, when asked what he told Broadway, knowing full well that at the intersection of opportunity and ability, where careers are made and lost, luck has very little to do with it.

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2007, 11:22:09 pm »
god help me if young parks in a handicap spot, i will have is a@@ towed....

gosh... like i said before and will say again. bowden just wants a drinking and batter-up your woman to pal around with this summer.

perhaps they will go smoke with ex-mayor barry...too while they are at it...

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2007, 12:45:52 am »
Hey, "redemption" is a powerful mantra in this town. Maybe this is a calculated shot at building the "urban" fan base.

But yeah, strange.     

god help me if young parks in a handicap spot, i will have is a@@ towed....

gosh... like i said before and will say again. bowden just wants a drinking and batter-up your woman to pal around with this summer.

perhaps they will go smoke with ex-mayor barry...too while they are at it...

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Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2007, 01:58:09 am »
I don't remember where i heard it, but i heard some stat that Travis Lee had the best fielding percentage for 1B? I think it was some astonishing number like .987.   :shock:

I think its .996 for his career. Pretty good.

Re: Broadway = Gone.
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2007, 09:46:47 am »
Damn, Broadway just can't catch a break here can he?

I will trust in Acta's decision and that he possibly has seen something in D-Tank (Dimitri Young as "Decommissioned Tank" or "Drunk Tank" whichever your preference) and he will provide that offensive boost.  If not we don't need JimBo  and D-Tank appearing on the DC episode of Bumfights....

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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 01:23:09 pm »


he's got nothing on the wookie..... dam

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2007, 01:39:50 pm »
nice photshop job on the hat there.