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Re: NFL Thread (2013)
« Reply #575 on: September 10, 2013, 09:25:45 pm »
I have crappy ones. DeMarco murry, Lamar miller, Roy helu (late round), Ingram, Bernard Pierce, Gerhart and my last pick was Marcus Lattimore. We have a league rule that allows us to "franchise" any one player selected after round 10.

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« Reply #576 on: September 10, 2013, 10:01:30 pm »
scored 140 points in fantasy in week 1 (peyton, peterson, charles).

only downhill from here

Same here.  Victor Cruz + Wes Welker.  And I drafted Calvin Johnson.  As some others have said, putting off RBs might have been the way to go.

I actually only narrowly won my matchup due to my opponent's team going equally nuts (he had Boldin and Vernon Davis).

How did I get put over the top?  26 pts from Kansas City's defense, validating my "pick whoever if going against Jacksonville" strategy.

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« Reply #577 on: September 10, 2013, 10:11:08 pm »
I did draft Michael Floyd on a hunch as well as Brandon Meyers? Te from NY

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« Reply #578 on: September 10, 2013, 10:44:49 pm »
I got Peyton Manning in the 3rd round and AJ Green in the first. Had a good day :lol:

took RGIII in the second

Are you able to start two QB?  Seems like a second round pick could have been used better somewhere else. 

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« Reply #579 on: September 10, 2013, 11:05:49 pm »
Are you able to start two QB?  Seems like a second round pick could have been used better somewhere else. 


trade bait? Its a work league. I broke from my normal strategy due to having a tendency to draft well late. Its a 12 team league.

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« Reply #580 on: September 10, 2013, 11:29:05 pm »

trade bait? Its a work league. I broke from my normal strategy due to having a tendency to draft well late. Its a 12 team league.

Gotcha just jumped out as weird.  Good luck in it!

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« Reply #581 on: September 10, 2013, 11:30:15 pm »
Gotcha just jumped out as weird.  Good luck in it!

wouldn't have done it in hindsight. Live and learn.

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« Reply #582 on: September 11, 2013, 12:15:59 am »
I usually wait till the very end or don't draft a backup qb at all

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« Reply #583 on: September 11, 2013, 12:36:16 am »
I did draft Michael Floyd on a hunch as well as Brandon Meyers? Te from NY

Our teams are strikingly similar. :lol: I got Brandon Myers too, as well as Helu and Lamar Miller (who looks like crap right now).

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« Reply #584 on: September 11, 2013, 12:45:29 am »
I usually wait till the very end or don't draft a backup qb at all

same, there are loads of decent backups still available in my ten team league. sam bradford and matt schuab are still there. i figure bradford could have a breakout year. if he doesnt he is a bust

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« Reply #585 on: September 12, 2013, 12:01:04 am »
Mark Sanchez to have season ending shoulder surgery per chris mortenson.  That ends his career as a jet too I assume.

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« Reply #586 on: September 12, 2013, 10:59:04 pm »
The NE receivers blow.

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« Reply #587 on: September 12, 2013, 11:20:00 pm »
The NE receivers blow.

Serves them right.  Low balling someone like Welker is such a LAC move.  They are so tight with their money they let Welker walk and paid Amendola pretty comparable salary.  I respect Brady, being a Wolverine and all, but loathe Billy B and what he stands for. 

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« Reply #588 on: September 13, 2013, 12:06:07 am »
Amendola is probably the better player, but he's never, ever, healthy.

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« Reply #589 on: September 13, 2013, 12:08:40 am »
Serves them right.  Low balling someone like Welker is such a LAC move.  They are so tight with their money they let Welker walk and paid Amendola pretty comparable salary.  I respect Brady, being a Wolverine and all, but loathe Billy B and what he stands for. 
hey hey hey, no talking bad about Bill Belichick!
Seriously would I love to have Wes Welker right about now?  Heck yea! But does BB have a pretty fabulous record of getting rid of guys a year too early instead of a year too late?  yep. 
Offense looks oh-so-poor right now, but we beat the Jets-all that matters tonight :)

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« Reply #590 on: September 13, 2013, 12:24:48 am »
Amendola is probably the better player, but he's never, ever, healthy.

Hard to be the better player if you can't take the field.  Latest report has him out six weeks.  LOL!

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« Reply #591 on: September 13, 2013, 12:25:42 am »
hey hey hey, no talking bad about Bill Belichick!
Seriously would I love to have Wes Welker right about now?  Heck yea! But does BB have a pretty fabulous record of getting rid of guys a year too early instead of a year too late?  yep. 
Offense looks oh-so-poor right now, but we beat the Jets-all that matters tonight :)

Skippy you seem like a good egg so I'm not going to give my opinion of William Belichick. 

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« Reply #592 on: September 13, 2013, 11:00:37 pm »
TF -actually, the Pats offered more guaranteed money than Welker is getting from the Broncos.  The agent thought he was going to get a big score, dickered, did not take the offer.  When the free agent signing period opened, the Pats thought Welker was going to hold out for an even bigger offer, so they signed Amendola so they would not end up with no one. Reports are that when Welker's agent found out the Pats were signing Amendola, he called to take the original offer, but the Pats and Amendola had signed an offer sheet or something that was so far along that the Pats could not back out without shooting themselves with other agents.  So, if it was anything, it was not LAC that caused Welker to end up with the Broncos.  Stupidity and arrogance, maybe, but not LAC.

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« Reply #593 on: September 13, 2013, 11:20:15 pm »
TF -actually, the Pats offered more guaranteed money than Welker is getting from the Broncos.  The agent thought he was going to get a big score, dickered, did not take the offer.  When the free agent signing period opened, the Pats thought Welker was going to hold out for an even bigger offer, so they signed Amendola so they would not end up with no one. Reports are that when Welker's agent found out the Pats were signing Amendola, he called to take the original offer, but the Pats and Amendola had signed an offer sheet or something that was so far along that the Pats could not back out without shooting themselves with other agents.  So, if it was anything, it was not LAC that caused Welker to end up with the Broncos.  Stupidity and arrogance, maybe, but not LAC.

I think the Patriots offered WW two years at $5m per season (with potential to make more, though WW didn't think that he would be able to achieve the incentives) and he signed with the Broncos for two years at $6m per season so I don't think they offered more guaranteed money.  The Patriots then turn around and pay Amendola $6m per and a longer contract.  Yes, I know he is younger.

They have also repeatedly not signed their own guys to lengthy big time contracts and often place the franchise tag on players instead of letting them get paid properly on the open market.  I have no problem with the way they do business, but they have always pinched pennies when it comes to salaries of their players.  Didn't they just add three years to his contract at an astonishingly low $9m per year after Flaccid got paid like $20m?  All in the name of allowing the team to be competitive.

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« Reply #594 on: September 13, 2013, 11:31:22 pm »
Amendola was a bad investment. He NEVER can stay healthy.

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« Reply #595 on: September 15, 2013, 05:33:30 am »
I think the Patriots offered WW two years at $5m per season (with potential to make more, though WW didn't think that he would be able to achieve the incentives) and he signed with the Broncos for two years at $6m per season so I don't think they offered more guaranteed money.  The Patriots then turn around and pay Amendola $6m per and a longer contract.  Yes, I know he is younger.

What I was saying was based off reports on Kraft's statements at the owners' meeting a few days after the Welker signing.  Maybe Kraft got his facts wrong, as suggested in the Denver Post:
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PHOENIX — Four days after Wes Welker was introduced as the newest Broncos wide receiver, Patriots owner Robert Kraft went on the offensive at the NFL meetings.

Kraft said Monday that Welker's agent, David Dunn, "overvalued" Welker on the open market and said he believed Welker was offered a better deal to stay with the Patriots. According to Kraft, the Patriots offered Welker a two-year contract worth $10 million plus incentives.

Welker's deal with the Broncos is a two-year contract worth $12 million. It includes a $4 million signing bonus and a $2 million base salary for this season. Next year, Welker will have a $3 million base salary and a $3 million bonus.

Kraft said the Broncos' deal was essentially a one-year affair, something the Broncos' decision makers dispute, and Kraft said the Patriots' last offer to Welker would have given $8 million in salary and bonuses to Welker this season.

"We just couldn't give Wes what he wanted," Kraft said. "We, in fact, offered him a better deal."

To me, that looks like the Broncos gave $6MM guaranteed to Welker.  I don't know the structure of the Patriots offer, but if it were $2MM a year with a $6MM bonus, then it would have more guaranteed.

In SI, Kraft said, "In fact, he has a one-year deal in Denver for $6 million. Our last offer.....was a $10 million offer with incentives that would have earned him another $6 million if he performed the way he had the previous two years. But in Denver, he's going to count $4 million against the cap this coming year and $8 million the second year. There is no guarantee that he plays the second year there.''

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130318/patriots-kraft-blames-welker-agent-contract-broncos/#ixzz2ex2GZH7Q "

Kraft also talks about how the incentives in the Pats offer brought their offer up to a possible $16MM, but SI points out he tried to argue the incentives should count as part of the Pats offer and not as part of the Broncos.  To me, that does not seem right.  Seems the basic point here was the guarantee was more under the Pats than the Broncos, that next year's contract with the broncos was questionable at the time due to the cap hit, and if you were going to count the questionable portion of the Broncos offer because he would clearly be worth that cap hit, then you ought to count the incentives under the Pats offer, which would top the Broncos maximum ($12MM over 2).

The $6MM to Amendola is less than the $8MM guaranteed offer to Welker.


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They have also repeatedly not signed their own guys to lengthy big time contracts and often place the franchise tag on players instead of letting them get paid properly on the open market.  I have no problem with the way they do business, but they have always pinched pennies when it comes to salaries of their players.  Didn't they just add three years to his contract at an astonishingly low $9m per year after Flaccid got paid like $20m?  All in the name of allowing the team to be competitive.

You are right they have let guys walk or traded them due to cap considerations. IMO, the defense has never been the same since Richard Seymour, Willie McGinest, and Mike Vrabel were traded or allowed to walk, and that they have not had a quality cornerback who is a good citizen since Asante Samuel.  McGinest maybe should have been allowed to walk, but the Vrabel move was "you can have Cassel for a 2d if you take Vrabel, too."  They lost a lot of toughness and spent several years without an effective pass rusher / run stopper around Wilfork. 

As for the Brady deal, Brady is low earner in his family.  He has renegotiated several times to lower his cap hit.  This was a mutual accommodation.  Brady gets his contract out to age 40, and the Pats get a number they can live with.  Brady never has said he had to be higher paid than Peyton, who is the only bench mark he compares himself to (not Brees, and certainly not Flaccid).

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« Reply #596 on: September 15, 2013, 12:57:05 pm »
Watching the Lintys.

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« Reply #597 on: September 15, 2013, 01:24:53 pm »
Mario Williams just murdered Newton.

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« Reply #598 on: September 15, 2013, 01:43:36 pm »
So is Aaron Williams any good at this point, Linty?

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« Reply #599 on: September 15, 2013, 01:52:46 pm »
Newton looks bad.