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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2900 on: June 22, 2023, 06:33:40 pm »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37899964/qatar-buying-stake-wizards-capitals-mystics-reports-say

The sudden masn settlement and this news sure makes it look like a leonsis deal is being worked out

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« Reply #2901 on: June 22, 2023, 07:31:06 pm »
Talknats:
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Source tells us that the new "Qatar" money flowing into Monumental Sports & Entertainment will be, "to build-out the network to be the best. ... While they wouldn't say, I will say it, 'I think that they would want to add MASN.' That would fit perfectly for a larger region and covering a full calendar of sports."

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« Reply #2902 on: June 22, 2023, 07:43:02 pm »
Talknats:

That gives the Lerners leverage. No one is buying MASN knowing they will have to litigate tv rights every 5 years

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« Reply #2903 on: June 23, 2023, 09:42:20 am »
Talknats:

I guess slapping a casino on the Caps jersey didn’t pay enough bills?

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« Reply #2904 on: June 23, 2023, 09:50:17 am »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37899964/qatar-buying-stake-wizards-capitals-mystics-reports-say

The sudden masn settlement and this news sure makes it look like a leonsis deal is being worked out

“NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said the league's board of governors decided in November to allow "passive, non-controlling, minority investments in NBA teams by institutional investors, including university endowments, foreign and domestic pension funds and sovereign wealth funds”

As certain wells run dry, it’s quite interesting to see what’s being allowed. Pension funds in sports teams, what could go wrong?

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2905 on: June 23, 2023, 10:10:03 am »
It would be insanity to let a public pension invest. If CALPERS owns 10% and California decides to revise sunshine laws, all of the sudden your books are public

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« Reply #2906 on: June 23, 2023, 10:24:58 am »
It would be insanity to let a public pension invest. If CALPERS owns 10% and California decides to revise sunshine laws, all of the sudden your books are public

Just wait until Saudi Arabia owns 35% of every single team in the NBA except the Raptors.  Public books will be the least of worries.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2907 on: June 23, 2023, 10:38:53 am »
Just wait until Saudi Arabia owns 35% of every single team in the NBA except the Raptors.  Public books will be the least of worries.
yes. I'd be plenty scared if I wrote critical coverage of any team.

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« Reply #2908 on: June 23, 2023, 10:52:34 am »
Public flogging of sports bloggers could help ratings
yes. I'd be plenty scared if I wrote critical coverage of any team.

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« Reply #2909 on: June 23, 2023, 11:49:45 am »
Public flogging of sports bloggers could help ratings

Well you never know til you try.

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« Reply #2910 on: August 02, 2023, 12:30:26 pm »
On last night's broadcast, Bob mentioned briefly that MASN's pre- and post-game shows are now being streamed on MLB.tv.

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« Reply #2911 on: August 02, 2023, 02:42:30 pm »
On last night's broadcast, Bob mentioned briefly that MASN's pre- and post-game shows are now being streamed on MLB.tv.

Yep. I was able to watch the pregame show for the first time yesterday.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2912 on: August 02, 2023, 03:14:13 pm »
Yep. I was able to watch the pregame show for the first time yesterday.

I was surprised when I flipped back to see the -- doomed -- last of the 9th and after that saw Nats Xtra. Good. I've seen no reason why MLB.TV would show that, but we can only hope that MASN is dying and MLB.TV will take over. Just a hope, of course, but the original Angelos deal never made sense. Washington did not become a suburb of Baltimore at the end of the 1971 season.

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« Reply #2913 on: August 02, 2023, 07:12:04 pm »
Now that the compensation has been decided through the 2016 season does anybody know the process or what's happening for the next 5 years to 2021?

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2914 on: August 02, 2023, 07:19:22 pm »
Now that the compensation has been decided through the 2016 season does anybody know the process or what's happening for the next 5 years to 2021?

I think it is the same process. MLB will appoint the same people, and Baltimore will not be able to claim that used the wrong law firm if Baltimore appeals.

And Washington is, still, not a suburb of Baltimore. No matter what Angelos claimed.

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« Reply #2915 on: August 02, 2023, 07:22:23 pm »
I think it is the same process. MLB will appoint the same people, and Baltimore will not be able to claim that used the wrong law firm if Baltimore appeals.

And Washington is, still, not a suburb of Baltimore. No matter what Angelos claimed.
They did have a joint Olympics bid though as I recall.

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« Reply #2916 on: August 21, 2023, 09:33:04 pm »
A story in the Baltimore Sun says John Angelos made a request to Maryland officials to sue Major League Baseball on behalf of the Orioles, alleging the league was misusing it's antitrust exemption in a dispute over fees from the O's broadcast network. This was in 2019.

So a member of MLB asked the state of Maryland to sue MLB. John Angelos is a POS.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/at-john-angelos-request-maryland-officials-considered-filing-antitrust-suit-against-mlb-to-aid-orioles-during-masn-dispute/ar-AA1fzCzR

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« Reply #2917 on: August 27, 2023, 12:45:01 am »
I guess MASN can’t afford to hire copy editors or good writers (Zuckerman excepted) anymore. As a grammar nerd, this was a tough read.

https://www.masnsports.com/nationals-rss/revenge-games-for-adon-and-garcia-in-miami

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Try as he might, it was hard for Garcia to completely remove the emotions of facing his former team.

“It did. It did and it didn't,” he said of that fact racing through his mind. “At the end of the day, I gotta go out there and do my job. So like I said, I took a deep breath, made pictures when I needed to and helped the team win. That's what I did.”

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2918 on: August 29, 2023, 09:11:14 pm »
Pictures can be key for sure.

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« Reply #2919 on: August 29, 2023, 09:15:15 pm »
I’m surprised they aren’t just using AI to write articles

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« Reply #2920 on: November 28, 2023, 06:07:18 pm »
So in June the MASN dispute for the years 2012 to 2016 was settled. Since then crickets for the years 2017 to 2021. There's incompetence and then there's everybody involved in this situation. This contract agreement doesn't work and needs to be dissolved.

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« Reply #2921 on: November 28, 2023, 07:05:10 pm »
So in June the MASN dispute for the years 2012 to 2016 was settled. Since then crickets for the years 2017 to 2021. There's incompetence and then there's everybody involved in this situation. This contract agreement doesn't work and needs to be dissolved.

I think each side uses the uncertainty over the contract in their own way. Neither team can be valued with the current terms, so it really comes down to a game of chicken to see which side needs to sell first

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« Reply #2922 on: November 29, 2023, 10:16:14 am »
I think there are enough changes league wide in the television area, that this will resolve itself in the next couple years anyway.   MLB recognizes that the RSN model is going to be dead after this season.  Half the teams will not have one at the end of this season, if Bally's even makes it that far, as they've stated this will be the last year MLB teams will be on Bally's.   It makes the MASN reset going forward from 2024 for MASN pretty ugly for the Nats.  I suspect there will be some kind of nationalized pool of local tv rights starting in 2025. 

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« Reply #2923 on: November 29, 2023, 10:23:23 am »
I think there are enough changes league wide in the television area, that this will resolve itself in the next couple years anyway.   MLB recognizes that the RSN model is going to be dead after this season.  Half the teams will not have one at the end of this season, if Bally's even makes it that far, as they've stated this will be the last year MLB teams will be on Bally's.   It makes the MASN reset going forward from 2024 for MASN pretty ugly for the Nats.  I suspect there will be some kind of nationalized pool of local tv rights starting in 2025. 

There is no chance the Dodgers, Yankees or Red Sox would ever agree to equal TV rights

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« Reply #2924 on: November 29, 2023, 11:04:30 am »
If MLB did try to dissolve the MASN deal I'm sure the Orioles/MASN would sue. It was a bad contract from the start but there's no easy way out.