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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1800 on: July 13, 2017, 12:47:16 pm »
If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?
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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1801 on: July 13, 2017, 12:50:09 pm »
Depends on if Angelos wants it to be- he can have masn renegotiate the matching provision with the Os.
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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1802 on: July 13, 2017, 01:23:35 pm »
Quote from: madj55 on July 13, 2017, 12:37:38 pm
NY Appellate Court rules Nationals rights fees should be determined by MLB's RSDC, not in outside arbitration, as Orioles had hoped.

That's a win for Nationals. RSDC originally ruled Nats should get nearly $300 mil in TV rights from 2013-16.

So the Nats and O's will now have old rights fees ('12-'16) and new ('17-'21) handled by MLB RSDC, composed of three owners/execs.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/07/13/nationals-get-huge-legal-victory-in-tv-rights-dispute-with-orioles/


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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1803 on: July 13, 2017, 01:27:43 pm »
Good news.

And Angelos sucks.
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Offline monkeyhit

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1804 on: July 13, 2017, 01:29:13 pm »
Good, now spend!
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Offline Dave301

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1805 on: July 13, 2017, 02:10:16 pm »
Looks like the O's can still appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, which is the highest appellate court, because the vote was 3-2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/07/13/ruling-in-masn-dispute-with-orioles-goes-the-nationals-way/?utm_term=.7f46c72cf953



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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1806 on: July 13, 2017, 03:03:18 pm »
Quote from: Dave301 on July 13, 2017, 02:10:16 pm
Looks like the O's can still appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, which is the highest appellate court, because the vote was 3-2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/07/13/ruling-in-masn-dispute-with-orioles-goes-the-nationals-way/?utm_term=.7f46c72cf953
The only ones benefiting are the lawyers.
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Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1807 on: July 13, 2017, 04:04:42 pm »
Quote from: DPMOmaha on July 13, 2017, 12:47:16 pm
If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?

They missed their chance with the RSN bubble. 
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Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #1808 on: July 13, 2017, 04:08:04 pm »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 13, 2017, 04:04:42 pm
They missed their chance with the RSN bubble. 
That wasn't the question.
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Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1809 on: July 13, 2017, 04:10:23 pm »
Quote from: DPMOmaha on July 13, 2017, 04:08:04 pm
That wasn't the question.

It might kill MASN but this is going to continue to get dragged out so even if it does it'll take a long while.
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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1810 on: July 13, 2017, 04:11:01 pm »
Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 13, 2017, 04:10:23 pm
It might kill MASN but this is going to continue to get dragged out so even if it does it'll take a long while.

And our boys aren't getting their own RSN at this point.

Baseball is a dying sport.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #1811 on: July 13, 2017, 04:14:25 pm »
correct me if I'm wrong, but if MASN dies, I though their share of the Nats rights would be auctioned in Bankruptcy not revert to the Nats
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Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1812 on: July 13, 2017, 04:36:20 pm »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on July 13, 2017, 04:14:25 pm
correct me if I'm wrong, but if MASN dies, I though their share of the Nats rights would be auctioned in Bankruptcy not revert to the Nats

That's my understanding as well.  The problem will be determining what those rights are worth by the time that happens in 2031. 
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Offline aspenbubba

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1813 on: July 13, 2017, 04:40:56 pm »
And WTF happens if MASN goes off the air or bankrupt? I just want to see Nats baseball for 6 months.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #1814 on: July 13, 2017, 04:42:40 pm »
someone will air the games- they're too valuable not to air, we'll just go though the price readjust fights with Comcast instead of angelos, then again, maybe lerner will buy the rights- an RSN not affiliated with an owner would be slightly insane to buy rights whose get determined by three of the owner's buddies every few years
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Offline Mattionals

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1815 on: July 13, 2017, 04:49:03 pm »
How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.
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Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #1816 on: July 13, 2017, 04:53:35 pm »
Quote from: Mattionals on July 13, 2017, 04:49:03 pm
How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.
Short term, probably a bunch. Long term, it'd be a rather progressive move, I think.
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Online nfotiu

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« Reply #1817 on: July 13, 2017, 04:56:06 pm »
Quote from: Mattionals on July 13, 2017, 04:49:03 pm
How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.
And they don't mind alienated us, since they are about the only team that doesn't provide a non-cable/dish option.
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« Reply #1818 on: July 13, 2017, 04:56:43 pm »
Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 13, 2017, 04:11:01 pm
And our boys aren't getting their own RSN at this point.

Baseball is a dying sport.

Baseball is doing pretty well.   RSNs are a dying business is the much bigger problem.
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Offline mitlen

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1819 on: July 13, 2017, 05:00:06 pm »
Quote from: Mattionals on July 13, 2017, 04:49:03 pm
How many customers get alienated if the Nats go internet only? I know many, including myself, have ditched cable altogether.

As long as I don't have to buy a new phone.     :old:
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Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #1820 on: July 13, 2017, 05:11:28 pm »
Interesting to compare the Post story with the Baltimore Sun's.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-masn-appeal-20170713-story.html
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Offline hotshot

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1821 on: July 13, 2017, 05:15:29 pm »
Dang, does this legal battle have any end? Appeal after appeal, year after year, and still no resolution!! What a system.
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Offline awbb

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1822 on: July 13, 2017, 05:27:42 pm »
Quote from: hotshot on July 13, 2017, 05:15:29 pm
Dang, does this legal battle have any end? Appeal after appeal, year after year, and still no resolution!! What a system.

It's designed by lawyers for lawyers.
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Offline Ray D

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1823 on: July 13, 2017, 06:40:28 pm »
Quote from: DPMOmaha on July 13, 2017, 12:47:16 pm
If this thing goes in the Nats favor, or mostly in the Nats favor, or maybe even just partially in the Nats favor, is that expected to be the death knell for MASN?

If that's the only result of all this, it's good enough for me.
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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1824 on: July 13, 2017, 09:30:39 pm »
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