Author Topic: 2012 free agency (Read 44345 times)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #800 on:** October 20, 2011, 06:27:04 pm »

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Vega · « **Reply #801 on:** October 20, 2011, 07:25:22 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on October 20, 2011, 06:27:04 pm

Royals. I hope he ends up on the Royals or Jays if he doesn't sign here.

Smithian · « **Reply #802 on:** October 20, 2011, 07:32:02 pm »

When will decent veterans like Jerry Hairston Jr, Jason Marquis, Matt Capps, etc get smart and realize if they come and don't suck then they'll be traded?

It's worked so far but I wouldn't want to sign with a team I was pretty sure would trade me.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #803 on:** October 20, 2011, 07:37:15 pm »

Matt Capps probably didn't have any other teams willing to let him close- these deals work both ways- on a team like the Nats they get a chance to showcase themselves and maybe get a better deal whereas on another team they may have been middle relief or end of the bench

Vega · « **Reply #804 on:** October 20, 2011, 07:39:42 pm »

Capps was coming off a non-tender after a crappy year. It was either sign here to be our closer or sign with the Cubs to be their setup man. He chose us.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #805 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:26:07 pm »

It doesn't mean much since its not anything but two mets players said they wouldn't be surprised if Reyes signed with the Nats. (mlbtr_)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #806 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:32:49 pm »

Of all the big FA's that could sign with the Nats, Reyes would probably be the best fit for the Nats but I could easily see that blowing up in our faces and being stuck with two crappy $100 million dollar players on the roster.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #807 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:50:23 pm »

With the injuries Reyes has had the past couple of years, no way he gets a Werthian deal.

imref · « **Reply #808 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:57:09 pm »

I wonder what it would take to get Reyes here. I'd expect we'd have to compete with Philly who could really use him.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #809 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:00:19 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on October 20, 2011, 10:50:23 pm

With the injuries Reyes has had the past couple of years, no way he gets a Werthian deal.

With the depth (or lack thereof) at SS especially on big market teams, no way he gets that little

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #810 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:10:23 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on October 20, 2011, 11:00:19 pm

With the depth (or lack thereof) at SS especially on big market teams, no way he gets that little

He may get a similar AAV, but I don't see any way he gets 7 years. I could see a 4 year 18 or 19 per, which, as best I could tell would give him the highest AAV for a SS.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #811 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:16:42 pm »

The Philles, Red Sox, Mets (say what you will about rebuilding/smart contracts, they charge NYC prices for their seats and sponsorships and will be under tremendous pressure to improve), and Giants all could be in the market (not to mention the yankees with a declining Jeter) and that may mean he gets to dictate terms

Vega · « **Reply #812 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:19:10 pm »

If a thirty-two year old Werth can get a seven year deal, a twenty-eight year old Reyes almost certainly will.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #813 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:19:19 pm »

That's fine, but you can only dictate so much. I don't think he gets anywhere close to what Werth got, at least not in terms of length of contract. I'm not even sure I see him exceeding what Tulo got in AAV, but he might.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #814 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:20:49 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on October 20, 2011, 11:19:19 pm

That's fine, but you can only dictate so much. I don't think he gets anywhere close to what Werth got, at least not in terms of length of contract. I'm not even sure I see him exceeding what Tulo got in AAV, but he might.

Tulo was under team control

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #815 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:21:41 pm »

I'm aware of that.

Vega · « **Reply #816 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:31:51 pm »

I'd be willing to wager that we'll hear talk of Fielder wanting a ten year deal. I doubt that he'll get one, but the idea will be out there.

Slateman · « **Reply #817 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:32:54 pm »

Wait, with Zim at short and Pujols at third, where the heck are we gonna play Reyes?

Vega · « **Reply #818 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:33:45 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on October 20, 2011, 11:32:54 pm

Wait, with Zim at short and Pujols at third, where the heck are we gonna play Reyes?

Catcher/starting pitcher.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #819 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:35:00 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on October 20, 2011, 11:32:54 pm

Wait, with Zim at short and Pujols at third, where the heck are we gonna play Reyes?

CF. It'll fill up our CF position AND he'll be the leadoff guy.

houston-nat · « **Reply #820 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:35:40 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on October 20, 2011, 11:32:54 pm

Wait, with Zim at short and Pujols at third, where the heck are we gonna play Reyes?

Silly, Pujols is our leadoff-hitting center fielder.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #821 on:** October 21, 2011, 08:58:57 am »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on October 20, 2011, 10:32:49 pm

Of all the big FA's that could sign with the Nats, Reyes would probably be the best fit for the Nats but I could easily see that blowing up in our faces and being stuck with two crappy $100 million dollar players on the roster.

I agree with all of this. If they do get him, maybe they trade Desmond plus pitching for a CF.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #822 on:** October 21, 2011, 10:37:43 am »

If Reyes was so injured this past season how did he qualify for the batting title?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #823 on:** October 21, 2011, 10:39:25 am »

He's had years of injury problems. Specifically hamstring problems. For a speed guy, that's dangerous.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #824 on:** October 21, 2011, 10:43:35 am »

Over the last two seasons Reyes has played in 259 games and had 1189 plate appearances. Ryan Zimmerman in that time has played in 243 games with 1043 plate appearances. So why are we fine with giving one guy nearly $200 million, but not giving another just over $100 million?