Author Topic: Nationals vs Rockies, Game 1 (Read 21205 times)

ghostface · « **Reply #75 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:27:02 pm »

Quote from: NC Nats Fan on July 08, 2011, 07:25:22 pm

i really wonder what the hell is going on with Werth. Hammel is little more than a tomato can and Werth just swung through a pitch right over the plate.

he's done, finished. some guys collapse fast and it's not like he was really that great to start with.

TylerDC · « **Reply #76 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:27:35 pm »

Quote from: Strasburg37 on July 08, 2011, 07:24:42 pm

Another K. How many is that, 84? WOW.

I know you'll crucify me for mentioning his name, but to this point, Rizzo has made the worst dollar-for-dollar signing in Major League history other than maybe that outrageous Mike Hampton deal.

Completely unreasonable. Do you think he wants Werth to be playing this way? No. We all expected Werth to be what his career averages say.. Don't ridicule Rizzo for trying to improve the team, that's crazy.

Kevrock · « **Reply #77 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:27:36 pm »

Looks gorgeous downtown. Would have been a great day to go.

Strasburg37 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:28:03 pm »

Wouldn't Bernadina in RF, Ankiel in CF, and Nix in LF be the best thing for the team?

RL04 · « **Reply #79 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:28:43 pm »

Quote from: ghostface on July 08, 2011, 07:25:20 pm

seriously - what has Werth done that should have him batting 5th?

Yeah, when I saw the line-up I was thinking Werth should be 6 or 7.

But can you imgagine his reaction if Davey told him he was batting way down in the order?

ghostface · « **Reply #80 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:28:55 pm »

it really would. no question

Strasburg37 · « **Reply #81 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:29:19 pm »

Quote from: TylerDC on July 08, 2011, 07:27:35 pm

Completely unreasonable. Do you think he wants Werth to be playing this way? No. We all expected Werth to be what his career averages say.. Don't ridicule Rizzo for trying to improve the team, that's crazy.

I don't want to hijack the game thread with this, but if you think Rizzo shouldn't and won't be held accountable for giving this guy $126 million, you're crazy. If he finishes the year without significant improvement, it will be viewed as one of the biggest bust years in free agent history. Rizzo could definitely lose his job over this.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #82 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:30:15 pm »

The Rockies' vests are ridiculous.

The Chief · « **Reply #83 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:30:33 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 08, 2011, 07:17:09 pm

He's not nearly that good.

But for now, he'll do.

I really don't understand why you hate on him so much. He's not amazing and he has "moments" in the OF for sure (both good and very bad), but he's by far one of the more competent leadoff hitters this organization has seen. If he keeps Rizzo from making a stupid deal for Upton or somebody, I'm all for it.

spidernat · « **Reply #84 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:30:54 pm »

Quote from: TylerDC on July 08, 2011, 07:27:35 pm

Completely unreasonable. Do you think he wants Werth to be playing this way? No.

I don't know why people keep bring this up. That crap is irrelevant. What matters is not whether he wants to suck balls but that he is actually sucking balls.

ghostface · « **Reply #85 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:30:54 pm »

he

Quote from: Strasburg37 on July 08, 2011, 07:29:19 pm

I don't want to hijack the game thread with this, but if you think Rizzo shouldn't and won't be held accountable for giving this guy $126 million, you're crazy. If he finishes the year without significant improvement, it will be viewed as one of the biggest bust years in free agent history. Rizzo could definitely lose his job over this.

Rizzo has great eye for drafting talent but he's not a GM

The Chief · « **Reply #86 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:31:07 pm »

Quote from: Kevrock on July 08, 2011, 07:17:31 pm

It was probably a deak to keep the corners honest.

This, people are still a little uptight after last night

PANatsFan · « **Reply #87 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:31:29 pm »

Quote from: Strasburg37 on July 08, 2011, 07:29:19 pm

I don't want to hijack the game thread with this, but if you think Rizzo shouldn't and won't be held accountable for giving this guy $126 million, you're crazy. If he finishes the year without significant improvement, it will be viewed as one of the biggest bust years in free agent history. Rizzo could definitely lose his job over this.

You already herped the derp.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #88 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:31:40 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on July 08, 2011, 07:30:33 pm

If he keeps Rizzo from making a stupid deal for Upton or somebody, I'm all for it.

That much I totally agree with.

I just don't see a lot of "Werth" in him... he has his moments as you say... but he just screams fourth OF'er to me. Of course I'll always be happy to see him do well.

nats2playoffs · « **Reply #89 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:31:50 pm »

John Lannan

K K

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #90 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:32:30 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on July 08, 2011, 07:30:54 pm

I don't know why people keep bring this up. That crap is irrelevant. What matters is not whether he wants to suck balls but that he is actually sucking balls.

Equally irrelevant is how much money Werth makes.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #91 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:32:50 pm »

That's not Phil Garner's kid, is it?

Strasburg37 · « **Reply #92 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:33:32 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on July 08, 2011, 07:30:33 pm

I really don't understand why you hate on him so much. He's not amazing and he has "moments" in the OF for sure (both good and very bad), but he's by far one of the more competent leadoff hitters this organization has seen. If he keeps Rizzo from making a stupid deal for Upton or somebody, I'm all for it.

+1

nats2playoffs · « **Reply #93 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:33:52 pm »

John Lannan

K K K

TylerDC · « **Reply #94 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:34:03 pm »

Agreed, Chief. Bernadina is completely solid in CF, I don't get the hate.

S37 - I understand. However.. the blame is on Werth, not Rizzo. We had to over-pay, we're the Nationals. Sure it looks bad on Rizzo, but nobody expected Werth to be this bad.

ronnynat · « **Reply #95 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:34:13 pm »

Where the hell did this fastball come from? I like it.

The Chief · « **Reply #96 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:34:22 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 08, 2011, 07:31:40 pm

That much I totally agree with.

I just don't see a lot of "Werth" in him... he has his moments as you say... but he just screams fourth OF'er to me. Of course I'll always be happy to see him do well.

Just saying - and maybe I'm way out of line here - but it seems like you show up without fail to denounce his mistakes (or even near-mistakes) but rarely if ever credit him for the positives with the bat (and yes sometimes in the field)

If I have the wrong impression, so be it and my apologies.

The Chief · « **Reply #97 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:36:20 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on July 08, 2011, 07:34:13 pm

Where the hell did this fastball come from? I like it.

Somebody was just mentioning the other day how his fastball has picked up velocity every single year. I forget what thread that was.

(I'm assuming your post was in reference to Lannan)

Strasburg37 · « **Reply #98 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:36:36 pm »

Quote from: TylerDC on July 08, 2011, 07:34:03 pm

S37 - I understand. However.. the blame is on Werth, not Rizzo. We had to over-pay, we're the Nationals. Sure it looks bad on Rizzo, but nobody expected Werth to be this bad.

I see what you're trying to say, but general managers are held to account based on these things. My opinion about Rizzo aside, if Werth continues to struggle, the heat will definitely turn up on the guy who paid him $126 million.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #99 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:37:17 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on July 08, 2011, 07:32:50 pm

That's not Phil Garner's kid, is it?