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The Wine Thread
« on: March 17, 2011, 11:08:38 pm »
We need a thread on wine (I think?).

Anyway, I picked up a bottle of Josef Handler sweet red desert wine from Trader Joe's last week that is fairly decent for the $5 I paid for it.  TJ's seems to be a pretty good source of low-cost good wines.

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 11:37:38 pm »
If you can stop by during their limited hours at the Florida market, A. Litteri, Inc. balances out the inexpensive wine selection at Trader Joe's quite nicely. Between the two, it is pretty amazing what you can find at $20 or less.  

http://litteris.com/

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 11:41:39 pm »
It all tastes like sour grape juice to me.

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 11:50:05 pm »
:lol: have you only ever had dry wines?

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 11:57:55 pm »
:lol: have you only ever had dry wines?

I don't have a clue as to what you just said.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 11:58:53 pm »
Some wine is dry.  That's the stuff you probably think tastes like sour grape juice.  There are also sweeter wines, you might like some of them.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 12:16:41 am »
Go to almost any wine tasting and try something different. There are many varietals (types of grapes) which taste nothing like grape juice.

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 12:34:11 am »
Anyone remember the Chevy Chase wine auction where the owner of a signed bottle of bergundy from Thomas Jefferson's cellar (estimated value $200K++) came out pirouetting with bottle in hand and smashed it on a pillar? 

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 09:14:00 am »
We need a thread on wine (I think?).

Anyway, I picked up a bottle of Josef Handler sweet red desert wine from Trader Joe's last week that is fairly decent for the $5 I paid for it.  TJ's seems to be a pretty good source of low-cost good wines.

Trader Joe's is an excellent source for inexpensive wines (say, < $8 a bottle) that play above their pedigree.

If I want what more upscale (say $7-$11 range) Total Wine has a vast selection, though they don't do what TJ's does with the cheap stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 09:20:13 am »
We've gotten into wine over the last few months. Went to Napa, CA for Christmas and hit up 15 or so wineries while we are there. And in VA we have probably been to 10 or so in the last 2 months. They are everywhere! The wine business in VA is really starting to boom.

I'm more a fan of whites than reds myself.

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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 09:22:42 am »
i saw an article in the Post a few weeks ago in which a neophyte went to Wegmans with a sommalier and $200.  The sommalier focused on Chilean and Australian wines as the best bang for the buck.

My vice is that my favorite wines are Pinot Noirs, and I've found the only real good ones come from Oregon, at a price around $25 a bottle.  (Favorite is Benton Lane - http://www.benton-lane.com/)

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 09:23:40 am »
We've gotten into wine over the last few months. Went to Napa, CA for Christmas and hit up 15 or so wineries while we are there. And in VA we have probably been to 10 or so in the last 2 months. They are everywhere! The wine business in VA is really starting to boom.

I'm more a fan of whites than reds myself.

Horton Vineyards "Norton" is wonderful, (it's a red, but it is the only native grape to virginia).

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 09:32:52 am »
i saw an article in the Post a few weeks ago in which a neophyte went to Wegmans with a sommalier and $200.  The sommalier focused on Chilean and Australian wines as the best bang for the buck.

My vice is that my favorite wines are Pinot Noirs, and I've found the only real good ones come from Oregon, at a price around $25 a bottle.  (Favorite is Benton Lane - http://www.benton-lane.com/)

I love good Pinots, but good ones are so damned expensive.  Besides Oregon, also California ones can be excellent (Russian River valley).

Chileans are reliably good for the price.  Especially have grown fond of the Carménère and Malbec varietals.  If you shop at Total Wine Chantilly, they are in a wierd location - alt Reds far left near the front of the store, away from the other wines, near the Kosher and other oddball things.   :crazy:   For $9-$13 you can get a really tasty explosion of big wine flavors with some of their carménère selections.

Highly recommend this one, but lots of others are good too:



Austrialian affordability means shiraz to me.  $6-$8 gets you plenty.  

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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 09:34:48 am »
Horton Vineyards "Norton" is wonderful, (it's a red, but it is the only native grape to virginia).

I did not care for the Norton at all.  Instead, I really liked their simple, straightforward cabernet franc, which you normally only see as a component of a bordeaux style blend.  Nice with ribs or burgers.  

But my favorite Horton is the Viognier - an alternative to chardonnay when you're just tired of the same old same old.  Great with seafoods.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 09:45:40 am »
We've gotten into wine over the last few months. Went to Napa, CA for Christmas and hit up 15 or so wineries while we are there. And in VA we have probably been to 10 or so in the last 2 months. They are everywhere! The wine business in VA is really starting to boom.

I'm more a fan of whites than reds myself.

You know what's badass and a romantic trip? The Niagara region in Canada has surprisingly great wineries, and the falls are a class romantic getaway. There's a college nearby where you can stay in the really nice dorms in the summer for a very reasonable price, and there's great restaurants out there.

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 09:46:52 am »
I did not care for the Norton at all.  Instead, I really liked their simple, straightforward cabernet franc, which you normally only see as a component of a bordeaux style blend.  Nice with ribs or burgers. 

But my favorite Horton is the Viognier - an alternative to chardonnay when you're just tired of the same old same old.  Great with seafoods.

you've given me a few more to try.  The Norton is special to us because we had a bottle at a B&B in Luray the night we got engaged.

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 09:49:27 am »
you've given me a few more to try.  The Norton is special to us because we had a bottle at a B&B in Luray the night we got engaged.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound harsh.  I'd try it again if I had the opportunity.  I WANT to like it, but my recollection is that it was really rough.  It's been 14 years since I tried it. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 09:51:37 am »
I love good Pinots, but good ones are so damned expensive.  Besides Oregon, also California ones can be excellent (Russian River valley).

Chileans are reliably good for the price.  Especially have grown fond of the Carménère and Malbec varietals.  If you shop at Total Wine Chantilly, they are in a wierd location - alt Reds far left near the front of the store, away from the other wines, near the Kosher and other oddball things.   :crazy:   For $9-$13 you can get a really tasty explosion of big wine flavors with some of their carménère selections.

Highly recommend this one, but lots of others are good too:



Austrialian affordability means shiraz to me.  $6-$8 gets you plenty. 

I have a story about that one - my wife asked me to pick up a good bottle of wine for our son's religious ed teacher, so I grabbed that one since it was on sale at Giant.  I come home and show it to her and she asks me if I'm insane.  I ask why?  She says that you just bought a religious ed teacher a bottle of wine called "the devil's cellar" (She speaks some spanish, i can order a cerveza but that's about it).  Anyway, we looked up the wine on their web site, the story is that the winemaker had his lot stolen by thieves, so he spread a story that the devil lived in his basement.  http://www.chileanlegend.com/the-legend/

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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 10:26:15 am »
Three random wines I enjoy:

Penfolds Bin 28 Kalimna Shiraz which regrettably is increasingly rare and expensive. Although I have respect for how that winery handles Shiraz. They raised the bar significantly for Shiraz; few compare to Penfolds.

Davis Valley Red Wine which is a nice every day wine which I picked up at Vintage Virginia. For people unfamiliar with Virginia wines it gets some respect.

Chateau Ste. Michelle Johannisberg Riesling and their Chenin Blanc. Well known to many, produced in volume, but a lot of quality for the price point. They also upscale nicely with their limited selections for these varietal types.  

And one to visit:

Peju ( http://peju.com/ ), which has just the right mix of wonderful wines, entertaining tastings (depending on who it will include a wine rap, folk song, etc.), and the place is simply gorgeous.



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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 10:27:47 am »
Ste. Michelle is right next to the Red Hook Brewery outside Seattle :thumbs:

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 11:06:07 am »
We visited Fox Meadow Vineyards and Linden Vineyards, both located near Linden, VA (Exit 13 off I-66), the Saturday of Washington's Birthday weekend. Very good wines, especially Fox Meadow's 2008 Cabernet Franc Reserve. My father has generally turned up his nose at Virginia wines, so I served that one when we had my parents over for dinner two weeks ago. (I use a decanter so he wouldn't see the label.) He really liked it and was shocked when I said it was from Virginia. The Virginia wine industry has evolved a lot—mostly in a good way—in the past ten years. As with any wine-producing region, there is some rotgut stuff out there but there's also some excellent stuff. The cellar tasting at Linden included a 1990 Cabernet Sauvignon that is no longer available for sale. That stuff was outstanding.

I wasn't a big fan of the Horton Norton the time I tried it, but I might try it again if the price were right. I didn't care for Horton's Port, either, especially not for $20 a bottle. I agree with tomterp about their regular Viognier being nice, but the other Horton wine we really liked was the sparkling Viognier. Very nice stuff except for one problem: The corks were unbelievably hard to remove. We had two bottles prior to Thanksgiving dinner a few years back and it's a real mood-buster when you wind up pulling out a pair of pliers to try to yank the cork out (and it's a bit nerve-wracking when you then wind up using a corkscrew on a bottle of sparkling wine because the pliers ripped off the round bulb that forms the top of the cork).

Ms1995hoo is out of town for the weekend, so I think this may be a beer weekend. The Port City brewery tour is on my to-do list for tomorrow.

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2011, 11:09:00 am »
The Port City brewery tour is on my to-do list for tomorrow.

Please let us know how it goes. I am have so tempted to go but haven't gotten there yet.

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2011, 11:16:13 am »
a friend of mine who used to own a wine store turned me on to this thing - he pours every glass he drinks through it:

http://www.amazon.com/Vinturi-Essential-Aerator-Pourer-Stopper/dp/B001B1AHPU

we did a taste test and there was a noticeable improvement in the wine after it went through the gizmo.


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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2011, 11:46:32 am »


When did you stop by my wine cellar!?!?!?!