Author Topic: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule  (Read 24668 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline imref

  • Posts: 47627
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2010, 11:39:18 am »
you know what's going to suck - scalpers are going to grab tickets every time he appears in the rotation from here on out.

Offline Minty Fresh

  • Posts: 20386
  • BOOM!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2010, 12:04:10 pm »
I'll probably just hope he pitches the 19th against the Sox, where I have tickets.  But as I think JCA pointed out, if he goes the 18th, that means he also pitches the 23rd at home vs. the Royals, instead of 24th in Baltimore.  As much as I'd love for him to stuff it in their beaks up there, why give them the big attendance boost instead of keeping it for ourselves?

True.  But doesn't the road team get a cut of ticket sales? 

Offline tomterp

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 33885
  • Hell yes!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2010, 12:06:32 pm »
True.  But doesn't the road team get a cut of ticket sales? 

I don't think so.  Why would they?

Offline Minty Fresh

  • Posts: 20386
  • BOOM!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2010, 12:11:00 pm »
I don't think so.  Why would they?

For some reason I always thought that was part of a league agreement.  Not in the CBA but part of league ownership.

I thought I remembered people harping on this when they talked about revenue sharing.  Something like the attendance in Kansas City hurts the big market teams as well becuase they won't get a decent cut as the road team.

I'm probably way off here though.

Offline tomterp

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 33885
  • Hell yes!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2010, 12:17:57 pm »
For some reason I always thought that was part of a league agreement.  Not in the CBA but part of league ownership.

I thought I remembered people harping on this when they talked about revenue sharing.  Something like the attendance in Kansas City hurts the big market teams as well becuase they won't get a decent cut as the road team.

I'm probably way off here though.


I wasn't too sure either, but it looks like "local revenues" are part of the basis for revenue sharing.  Here's an excerpt from an article titled "Is Revenue Sharing Working for Major League Baseball? A Historical Perspective"

http://www.thesportjournal.org/article/revenue-sharing-working-major-league-baseball-historical-perspective

Quote
...in October of 2006, MLB and the players association reached a five-year agreement on the revenue sharing policy. The agreement requires all 30 teams to pay 34% of their local revenues** into a common pool, and that pool is split evenly among the 30 teams (Jacobson, 2008, p. 1). In 2007 alone, $312 million of wealth was transferred from high to low revenue teams (Fatsis, 2006, p. 2).

**Local revenues consist of gate receipts, local television, radio and cable rights fees, ballpark concessions, advertising and publications, parking, suite rentals, postseason, and spring training. In a 2007 study, Gennaro found that local revenue contributes 70-80% to a team’s total revenue. Therefore, economic factors such as attendance, per capita income, and other Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area census figures are largely responsible for the level of total revenue baseball teams receive.


So a portion of all local revenue goes into the pool, which is then divided equally.  

Offline Mathguy

  • Posts: 9162
  • Floyd - Truely Man's best Friend
    • Outer Banks Beach House
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2010, 12:30:27 pm »
Boswell has been on a WashPost chat this morning.  He claims Strasburg will pitch every 5th day - not every 5th game.  That would mean pitching Sunday 6/13 and Friday 6/18.  And my birthday, Wed 6/23

Just got tickets for 6/19, originally game time was 4:10pm now it says 7:05pm. Is this because of the Fox broadcast? Which is correct?

Offline 1995hoo

  • Posts: 1094
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2010, 12:35:38 pm »
Everyone said that Strasburg wouldn't go more than 6 innings or 75 pitches last night, so I'm inclined not to give too much credence to the media speculation. We'll know when the team tells us.

Offline Minty Fresh

  • Posts: 20386
  • BOOM!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2010, 12:50:22 pm »
I wasn't too sure either, but it looks like "local revenues" are part of the basis for revenue sharing.  Here's an excerpt from an article titled "Is Revenue Sharing Working for Major League Baseball? A Historical Perspective"

http://www.thesportjournal.org/article/revenue-sharing-working-major-league-baseball-historical-perspective

So a portion of all local revenue goes into the pool, which is then divided equally. 

So....as I said, I was mistaken.  :lol:

I was somehow convinced the road team received a cut of the actual gameday gate but it appears as though it's just tied into the revenue sharing which makes way more sense.

Offline The Chief

  • Posts: 31839
    • http://www.wnff.net
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2010, 12:52:38 pm »
Minty I think you're thinking of playoff games, in which case I believe you are right (or at least close)

Offline blue911

  • Posts: 18599
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2010, 01:32:12 pm »
So....as I said, I was mistaken.  :lol:

I was somehow convinced the road team received a cut of the actual gameday gate but it appears as though it's just tied into the revenue sharing which makes way more sense.


That was the old system, now get off of my yard  :old:

Offline Kevrock

  • Posts: 13813
  • That’s gonna be a no from me, dog
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2010, 01:35:59 pm »
That was the old system, now get off of my yard  :old:

Didn't visiting teams also get a cut of local television broadcast revenues? But the Super Stations (TBS, WGN) were exempt for some reason.

I could be making this up. I can't look it up right now.

Offline blue911

  • Posts: 18599
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2010, 01:37:07 pm »
Didn't visiting teams also get a cut of local television broadcast revenues? But the Super Stations (TBS, WGN) were exempt for some reason.

I could be making this up. I can't look it up right now.

I believe it was gate only.

Offline Minty Fresh

  • Posts: 20386
  • BOOM!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2010, 01:39:48 pm »
That was the old system, now get off of my yard  :old:

I believe it was gate only.

I surfed around the web for about 1/2 hour and found nothing.

But before I leave your lawn my dog needs to take a dump.

Offline Lintyfresh85

  • Posts: 35152
  • World Champions!!!
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2010, 01:48:25 pm »
For some reason I also thought the visiting team got a cut of the gate.

Something like 70/30.

Offline Kevrock

  • Posts: 13813
  • That’s gonna be a no from me, dog
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2010, 01:49:06 pm »
Yeah, my bad.

This is a pretty obscure topic for Google but I found this. We even get a shout, whether you consider us the Expos or the Senators. :|

Quote
As the importance of local media contracts grew, so did the problems associated with them. As cable and pay per view television became more popular, teams found them attractive sources of revenue. A fledgling cable channel could make its reputation by carrying the local ball team. In a large enough market, this could result in substantial payments to the local team. These local contracts did not pay all teams, only the home team. The problem from MLB's point of view was not the income, but the variance in that income. That variance has increased over time, and is the primary source of the gap in payrolls, which is linked to the gap in quality, which is cited as the "competitive balance problem." In 1962 the MLB average for local media income was $640,000 ranging from a low of $300,000 (Washington) to a high of $1.2 million (New York Yankees). In 2001, the average team garnered $19 million from local radio and television contracts, but the gap between the bottom and top had widened to an incredible $51.5 million. The Montreal Expos received $536,000 for their local broadcast rights while the New York Yankees received more than $52 million for theirs. Revenue sharing has resulted in a redistribution of some of these funds from the wealthiest to the poorest teams, but the impact of this on the competitive balance problem remains to be seen.

http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/haupert.mlb

Offline imref

  • Posts: 47627
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2010, 02:08:18 pm »
Boswell has been on a WashPost chat this morning.  He claims Strasburg will pitch every 5th day - not every 5th game.  That would mean pitching Sunday 6/13 and Friday 6/18.  And my birthday, Wed 6/23


i think they are all just speculating based on the report a few days ago.

Offline imref

  • Posts: 47627
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2010, 02:09:49 pm »
USA Today:

Quote
June 13 at Cleveland: This one is a lock barring Strasburg stepping off a curb and twisting his ankle. Indians spokesman Bob DiBiasio told the Associated Press the club is projecting ticket sales of 28,000 for the game, second this season only to the opening-day crowd of 42,061. The Indians have averaged 15,527 fans for each of 24 home games.

June 18 vs. White Sox: The Nationals are off June 14, so they will have to decided whether to give Strasburg the normal four days of rest and skip somebody in the rotation or push him back to June 19. The smart money is on the 18th because ...

June 23 vs. Royals: If Strasburg goes on the June 18, then the Nationals get another home outing out of him. If he goes on June 19, then he would appear in Baltimore on June 25, and who wants to give the regional rival Orioles that attendance boost?

June 29 at Braves: This could be Strasburg's welcome-to-the-majors moment as it will be the first time he faces a team above .500. The Nationals are off June 24, so if they want to keep him on normal rest, he would go June 28. We think they take the opportunity to give the 21-year-old an extra day of rest.

July 4 vs. Mets: Nothing says Independence Day like Strasburg pitching in D.C., right?

July 10 vs. Giants: The Nationals have another day off on July 5, so we say they give Strasburg an extra day since it won't impact his next start with the All-Star break starting July 12.

Offline The Chief

  • Posts: 31839
    • http://www.wnff.net
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2010, 02:12:06 pm »
^^ sounds good to me.

Offline Kevrock

  • Posts: 13813
  • That’s gonna be a no from me, dog
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2010, 02:17:55 pm »
Good guesses.

I've actually decided to head up to Baltimore on 25th to meet up with some friends I haven't seen in a while. If Strassy pitches that's a bonus. This will be the end of an era, folks. I have not spend any money on the angelO's in over a decade.

Offline imref

  • Posts: 47627
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2010, 02:27:46 pm »
let's do this - start on 6/19 at home since i have tickets to that game, then pitch in Baltimore in exchange for no more games on MASN-2 for the rest of the year.

Offline Sniper 1

  • Posts: 151
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2010, 02:32:29 pm »
Boswell has been on a WashPost chat this morning.  He claims Strasburg will pitch every 5th day - not every 5th game.  That would mean pitching Sunday 6/13 and Friday 6/18.  And my birthday, Wed 6/23


Riggleman confirmed that on ESPN980.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=51140



Offline Mathguy

  • Posts: 9162
  • Floyd - Truely Man's best Friend
    • Outer Banks Beach House
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2010, 02:41:14 pm »
Why would Strasburg pitch a schedule different than any other starter ?

Riggleman confirmed that on ESPN980.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=51140




Offline Kevrock

  • Posts: 13813
  • That’s gonna be a no from me, dog
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2010, 02:43:29 pm »
Why would Strasburg pitch a schedule different than any other starter ?

Does Riggleman explain why in the link? I can't listen to it until I get home.

Offline R-Zim#11

  • Posts: 1740
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2010, 02:48:12 pm »
let's do this - start on 6/19 at home since i have tickets to that game, then pitch in Baltimore in exchange for no more games on MASN-2 for the rest of the year.

That is unbelievable isn't it? It drives me crazy how much blO's crap we have put up with...they're an OUT OF TOWN TEAM!

Offline imref

  • Posts: 47627
  • NG Nattitude?
Re: Strasburg's Pitching Schedule
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2010, 03:11:26 pm »
Does Riggleman explain why in the link? I can't listen to it until I get home.

there was some speculation that by having Strasburg go every five days it gives the rest of the staff some extra rest for the next few months.  The feeling is that Strasburg is fresher.