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Offline Ray D

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Who's to blame tonight?
« on: April 21, 2010, 12:02:00 am »
Many parallels tonight to Sunday's game.  Who was more to blame, the worthless piece of garbage starter, or the useless piece of trash who relieved him?

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 12:13:08 am »
Jim Bowden.

Seriously, are you gonna freak out over every bad loss, cuz there's gonna be more.  It's baseball, it happens.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 12:48:04 am »
There's really only one person who should hang his head in shame.  PANatsFan, who started the ill fated game day thread :razz:

Offline houston-nat

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 12:57:35 am »
Who cares? Seriously. We're gonna lose at least 75 more games this year. If we become the best team in major league baseball, we'll still lose 50 more games. Will we have to deal with 70 more threads like this?

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 01:07:42 am »
There's really only one person who should hang his head in shame.  PANatsFan, who started the ill fated game day thread :razz:

Seriously, how could he start a GD thread after what happened last time!?!?!?  He should go to jail for that crap. :whip:

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 01:26:11 am »
PA,



GET YOUR ASS TO JAIL!

Seriously though, it was a bad loss and would have been great to go even higher over .500, but if you would have told me that we'd be at .500 towards the end of April a few months ago, I'd have laughed at you.  This team is playing much better than last year's team.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 01:28:21 am »


Guess I deserve an atomic wedgie.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 07:39:04 am »
As this thread suddenly boards the blamemobile on a trip to Loserville while stopping for gas in Vengfulville...


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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 07:44:24 am »
Tyler Walker was every bit as responsible as Scott Olsen

Offline CJames0569

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 07:55:22 am »


Guess I deserve an atomic wedgie.

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Offline Ray D

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 08:01:16 am »
Who cares? Seriously. We're gonna lose at least 75 more games this year. If we become the best team in major league baseball, we'll still lose 50 more games. Will we have to deal with 70 more threads like this?
Honestly, if you don't care then why did you bother responding, your point is completely irrelevant to the discussion I was trying to raise, obviously to no avail.  I had thought that the Marquis/Bautista discussion earlier was interesting and that last night's game, while there were obvious difference, there were compelling parallels too, and that an Olsen/Walker analysis might make for an interesting discussion but this lame forum just blows off attempts at interesting discussion and usually veers off into whether we'll win 75 games or not. 


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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 08:16:23 am »
Many parallels tonight to Sunday's game.  Who was more to blame, the worthless piece of garbage starter, or the useless piece of trash who relieved him?

Damn, ASSCLOWN has hacked into Ray's account.

Honestly, if you don't care then why did you bother responding, your point is completely irrelevant to the discussion I was trying to raise, obviously to no avail.  I had thought that the Marquis/Bautista discussion earlier was interesting and that last night's game, while there were obvious difference, there were compelling parallels too, and that an Olsen/Walker analysis might make for an interesting discussion but this lame forum just blows off attempts at interesting discussion and usually veers off into whether we'll win 75 games or not. 


Ray, while you were away, ASSCLOWN hacked into your account and derailed your attempt at Olsen/Walker analysis and interesting discussion, by changing your post to the usual "player X is garbage" theme.  Feel free to go back and repost with your usual articulate insight.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 08:17:58 am »
Scott Olsen and Tyler Walker are on this team until Wang and Detwiler are healthy again. Then in June I would say either Wang or Detwiler will be put into the pen to replace Walker and the other one will replace Olsen who will probably be traded or put on the DL. Olsen was the 1 million insurance policy until Wang gets ready. I think Olsen will probably win a few games. If we have to point fingers then we will say... Mike Rizzo for having this type of plan in place.

JD Martin should be in the rotation. But Mock, was Rizzo's guy so Mock got the chances in ST that JD Martin should have received. JD was pitching intrasquad games while Mock got all the ST games.
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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 08:20:48 am »
Why is Miguel Batista on the roster? Serious question.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 08:21:32 am »
Olsen and Walker were to blame. Neither did their job effectively. I don't know how or why you would want to divvy up shares of blame in this situation.

Also, I don't think Olsen is a worthless piece of garbage and I don't think Walker is necessarily a useless piece of trash.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 08:30:22 am »
Why is Miguel Batista on the roster? Serious question.
When Storen and Strasburg are ready after the first week in June we will understand why some of these guys WERE on this team. With so many younger pitchers at the lower levels the Nats needed to tread water with some Re-treads as they revaluate what they are going to do with guys like, Balester, Martin, Thompson, Meyers, Known, Martis, Detwiler, J Zimm, Chico. Lets face it , some will either have to be traded as starters or converted to the bullpen. For most of these guys this year is their revealing year as far as how they fit into the Nats system. Trade bait, relievers or starters.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2010, 08:31:57 am »
When Storen and Strasburg are ready after the first week in June we will understand why some of these guys WERE on this team. With so many younger pitchers at the lower levels the Nats needed to tread water with some Re-treads as they revaluate what they are going to do with guys like, Balester, Martin, Thompson, Meyers, Known, Martis, Detwiler, J Zimm, Chico. Lets face it , some will either have to be traded as starters or converted to the bullpen. For most of these guys this year is their revealing year as far as how they fit into the Nats system. Trade bait, relievers or starters.

Right.  We know there's going to be a major overhaul of both the rotation and 'pen, but not sure of the timing or exactly who is going to be filling these roles.  Stras and Storen, for sure, but beyond that it's wide open.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2010, 08:39:37 am »
Just another thought. When guys are up for arbitration they get to take into consideration the last two years of service. If they were a starter for 3 years but the last two years they were converted into a reliever the player can only take what he has done as as a reliever into arbitration.
 That rule gives extra motivation to Tyler Clippard to do well this year as he can only take his reliever numbers with him to Arbitration and not use his wins as a starter with the Yankees to pad his numbers.

I make this point to say the Nats know this and they can save money with an guy they want to offer arbitration too down the road to guy that they might convert. If they convert a guy too early that gives the guy time to build quality numbers.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2010, 08:43:43 am »
Right.  We know there's going to be a major overhaul of both the rotation and 'pen, but not sure of the timing or exactly who is going to be filling these roles.  Stras and Storen, for sure, but beyond that it's wide open.
I am sure they will bring up Storen and Strasburg at the same time. Can you imagine at Strasburg's debut where Strasburg goes 7 innings ,10 k's and they bring in Storen to close it out in the 9th for Stras first win and Storen's first save.  :worship:

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 08:44:11 am »
Anyone that dared to utter a positive word about the Nats is to blame.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2010, 08:47:57 am »
Anyone that dared to utter a positive word about the Nats is to blame.
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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2010, 08:51:43 am »
Scott Olsen may have pitched like Mrs. Olsen last night, but I don't think that's any indication that we're doomed this season.

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 08:53:33 am »
PANatsFan is the root of all evil on this chatboard.  He's a closet Phillies fan, after all.

There's really only one person who should hang his head in shame.  PANatsFan, who started the ill fated game day thread :razz:

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 09:05:26 am »
XM now broadcasts the MLB Network pre-game show from 6-7 pm.  Sucks because it's a TV show and they are showing replays and pointing at lists and matchups and you can't see it.  But one insight on the Nats game last night, we had Garrett Olsen starting on the mound.    :bang:

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Re: Who's to blame tonight?
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 09:09:11 am »


Also, I don't think Olsen is a worthless piece of garbage and I don't think Walker is necessarily a useless piece of trash.

I don't either.  It was a poor attempt at sarcasm on my part.