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Offline balzig777

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« on: January 11, 2010, 11:17:47 am »
so the team has 25 or so pitchers on the 40 man, and is looking to get a couple more, adding those in triple a makes alot of humans for the few positions between the bigs and triple a.Looks like a big logjam this year,guess st will sort it all out? Not too much of a point ,just thinking out loud.

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 11:22:39 am »
Syracuse once again will have a very solid rotation.

Is it possible to have too much pitching talent?  Of course, but then it becomes currency for trade, or as has happened to the Nats the last few years, depth to restock the MLB team when injuries happen.  We've typically used 10-14 starters a year.


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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 11:23:23 am »
There are those who will tell you that "you can never have enough pitching" but I would disagree.  Over-saturation and garbage collecting can lead to a lifetime of mediocrity.  I think we could really use a front-line starter at the ML level and that's it.  Let's go with what we've got.

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 12:05:59 pm »
If you have mediocre pitching, then over-saturation isn't your problem, it's a lack of prime talent.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 12:33:48 pm »
There are those who will tell you that "you can never have enough pitching" but I would disagree.  Over-saturation and garbage collecting can lead to a lifetime of mediocrity.  I think we could really use a front-line starter at the ML level and that's it.  Let's go with what we've got.

I think those people never witnessed Daniel Cabrera.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 12:42:12 pm »
Syracuse once again will have a very solid rotation.

Is it possible to have too much pitching talent?  Of course, but then it becomes currency for trade, or as has happened to the Nats the last few years, depth to restock the MLB team when injuries happen.  We've typically used 10-14 starters a year.


We should innovate the 14-man rotation. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 02:05:21 pm »
adding those in triple a makes alot of humans

There's only one solution - Start selling Soylent Green at the concessions.  When a few of the #4/ #5 starters don't perform and start to disappear off the face of the Earth, don't say I did not warn you.

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Re: pitching
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 02:05:58 pm »
OOPS - nothing meant by that, Spinman . . .

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 02:07:26 pm »
With Guys like Balester, Detwiler, JD Martin, Stammen, Estrada, Mock getting a taste of the bigs, this years Spring training will be a slugfest as to which pitches stay and which ones go to AAA.

These guys are all ready now to take the next step up as a big league pitcher.

I also agree with Tomterp that we do use 10-14 starters in the rotation in any given year. Whomever gets the call ups this year had better shine bright because we have Strasburg, J Zimmermann coming up in 2011 as well.

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2010, 02:10:38 pm »
OOPS - nothing meant by that, Spinman . . .
I am glad we don't have a " Bad outing ( post) by a poster thread" or some comments would make its first page!  :rant:

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2010, 02:11:30 pm »
I am glad we don't have a " Bad outing ( post) by a poster thread" or some comments would make its first page!  :rant:

LOL! I understand. :icon_mrgreen:

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2010, 02:20:00 pm »
LOL! I understand. :icon_mrgreen:

Are you agreeing with yourself, Spinman?     :roll:

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 03:37:58 pm »
Are you agreeing with yourself, Spinman?     :roll:
LOL! YES! I am a goon!!! :idiot:

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Re: pitching
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2010, 04:10:29 pm »
For the record, I do not believe there is such a thing as excess starting pitching, therefore I do not advocate turning anyone into an extra in a Charlton Heston movie.  

In 2009, most every NL team uses 6-8 starters more than 50 IP, and half use at least one more more than 40 IP.  

9 - NYM, 9 SD (+1 > 40 IP)
8 - FLA, MIL (+1 over 40 IP), WSN (+2 >= 40 IP)
7 - Hou, LAD, PHI (+1> 40 IP), PIT (+1 > 40 IP), St. L.,
6 - AZ, ATL, CHI, CIN (+3 over 40 IP),
5 -Col (+2 > 40), SF (+1  > 40 IP)

Figure that between our top 3 teams (H'burg, Syr, and Was), you need 12 or so pitchers who will pitch a lot at MLB or AAA, counting guys who backfill from AA for AAA callups.

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 06:18:50 pm »
With Guys like Balester, Detwiler, JD Martin, Stammen, Estrada, Mock getting a taste of the bigs, this years Spring training will be a slugfest as to which pitches stay and which ones go to AAA.

to bad we're not the wizards or it might be an actual slugfest.

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2010, 06:19:27 pm »
to bad we're not the wizards or it might be an actual slugfest.

Hopefully it's not a slugfest for the Grapefruit League :shock: