Author Topic: Chapman hires Hendricks brothers, signs with Reds (Read 6077 times)

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 02, 2010, 12:43:44 pm »

My point is that although Strasburg is better than him, Chapman gets more money because he was born in Cuba and not Puerto Rico.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:38:27 pm »

So alot of teams are saying they are out of the Chapman sweepstakes... I wonder if we still have a shot.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:39:19 pm »

Marlins are going to get him somehow says Jim Bowden

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:41:56 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 06, 2010, 08:39:19 pm

Marlins are going to get him somehow says Jim Bowden

MLBTR; Miami Herald

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6:56pm: Clark Spencer of The Miami Herald tweets that internally, the Marlins have "conceded defeat" in the Chapman sweepstakes.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/aroldis-chapman-update-decision-coming-soon.html

Either Jim Bowden doesn't know or this Miami Herald guy doesn't know... or neither of them know... Its just fun seeing this sweepstakes at work.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:43:47 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on January 06, 2010, 08:41:56 pm

MLBTR; Miami Herald

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/aroldis-chapman-update-decision-coming-soon.html

Either Jim Bowden doesn't know or this Miami Herald guy doesn't know... or neither of them know... Its just fun seeing this sweepstakes at work.

I'll take option C.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #30 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:20:31 pm »

I hope Rizzo shoots webbing out his wrists, swings in and grabs him away in a daring escape that no one saw coming.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:22:40 pm »

People are starting to think he profiles best as a reliever. Back away slowly.

tomterp · « **Reply #32 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:28:33 pm »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 06, 2010, 09:20:31 pm

I hope Rizzo shoots webbing out his wrists, swings in and grabs him away in a daring escape that no one saw coming.

What, are you doing Spider's bidding these days?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #33 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:32:33 pm »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 06, 2010, 09:20:31 pm

I hope Rizzo shoots webbing out his wrists, swings in and grabs him away in a daring escape that no one saw coming.

I can see why he'd like living in Miami, but Rizzo has magical powers.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:44:55 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on January 06, 2010, 09:22:40 pm

People are starting to think he profiles best as a reliever. Back away slowly.

I just want to see Rizzo swinging on webbing from his wrists.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #35 on:** January 07, 2010, 10:17:09 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 05, 2009, 12:09:50 pm

Figure someone will give him $25m Major league contract and get 3 - 8 years of MLB control of him. Contreras got 4 years, $32m in 2003.

I think Arrangure was right in that either the BJs or the Angels will give him the $20-25m and 5 years he's asking for. Marlins are supposed to be out.

To keep things in perspective, very few lefties who are older and in their physical prime can throw 95 MPH comfortably, even among relievers. Matt Thornton and a few others. Not even CC or Kershaw throw that hard. He will not get Matsuzaka or even Contreras money, but he will comfortably pass SS and will immediately be a top 10 prospect, per Goldstein at BP.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 07, 2010, 10:10:24 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on January 07, 2010, 10:17:09 am

but he will comfortably pass SS and will immediately be a top 10 prospect, per Goldstein at BP.

what the freak

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #37 on:** January 08, 2010, 08:41:51 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on January 07, 2010, 10:17:09 am

He will not get Matsuzaka or even Contreras money, but he will comfortably pass SS and will immediately be a top 10 prospect, per Goldstein at BP.

Not a BP subscriber, but in his 1/4 chat there was this exchange, which I'm lifting from another message board:

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Drew (New York): Arodlis Chapman seems to be on a roller coaster. Have his workouts changed some views, or is it more a function of interest going up as his rumored bonus demands go down? Where do you see him in a Top 100 list?

Kevin Goldstein: The second he signs, he's a single digit on my Top 100 list (well, per Steven Goldman, it's now a top 101). His workouts have been very good, and while it's still the usual suspects, there are some interesting sleepers staying in the process, like Toronto, Oakland and Philadelphia

JMW IV · « **Reply #38 on:** January 08, 2010, 06:18:34 pm »

according to people on twitter, the nationals have been named a "2nd choice" behind the blue jays for Chapman.

JMW IV · « **Reply #39 on:** January 08, 2010, 06:19:24 pm »

it was that idiot jon heyman who mentioned the nats.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 08, 2010, 07:36:03 pm »

So question, would Champman be under the same rules as Strasburg in terms of becoming a FA/service time, etc., What's the skinny on that?

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 08, 2010, 07:40:57 pm »

Quote from: wpa2629 on January 08, 2010, 07:36:03 pm

So question, would Champman be under the same rules as Strasburg in terms of becoming a FA/service time, etc., What's the skinny on that?

Everyone is under the same rules as far as Free Agency and Service time.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #42 on:** January 08, 2010, 08:53:14 pm »

Quote from: GMUNat on January 08, 2010, 07:40:57 pm

Everyone is under the same rules as far as Free Agency and Service time.

Yup, just like Matsuzaka.

No way in hell is he a higher prospect that Strasburg. He's more raw for one thing. Ridiculous assertion.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 08, 2010, 11:29:40 pm »

Interesting.

I always thought he'd be a guy Rizzo might go after.

Not sure I'd be all for it though... especially if he profiles as a reliever.

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #44 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:57:24 am »

If he's a starter, can you imagine that potential rotation in 2011?

Strasburg, Chapman, Marquis, Lannan, and Jordan Zimmermann.. Sounds like a dream fantasy rotation

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #45 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:18:37 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on January 08, 2010, 08:53:14 pm

Yup, just like Matsuzaka.

No way in hell is he a higher prospect that Strasburg. He's more raw for one thing. Ridiculous assertion.

Stras I think, will be the top pitcher, heyward will be the top position player on every list, but Goldstein is saying Chapman will be higher than #10 on his list.

As for Dice-K and anyone posted from Japan, they are not really free agents. His contract was still owned by Seibu. What the Sox bought was the right to negotiate with him, with a payment to Seibu contingent on actually reaching an agreement with Dice-K (and his agent, Satan). Iwamura went throught eh same system. A guy like Okajima I think was a free agent having played out his contract and came over without a posting fee.

zoom · « **Reply #46 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:19:59 pm »

From Today's (1/9/10) MLB Rumors:

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The Toronto Blue Jays may have raised the stakes in the courting of Aroldis Chapman. But is he worth it?

El Nuevo Herald, a Miami-bases Spanish newspaper, reported Friday that the Blue Jays have made a $23 million offer for the Cuban defector, which would be slightly more than a bid made by the Los Angeles Angels.

The Red Sox are believed to have made a $15 million bid while the Marlins are believed to have increased their $13 million offer.

There is an obvious disparity in the bids, and ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney writes in today's blog that there is a wide gulf of opinion among talent evaluators. Buster says some scouts see Chapman as another Randy Johnson and others see him headed to the bullpen.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #47 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:25:27 pm »

The thing about the Marlins $13m offer is that it also allows him to avoid the Canadian tax system and state income taxes. Effectively, the Marlins, Rays, and any team in a no income tax state can offer a bit less than the NYY, NYM or even the Nats because there is no state or local income tax.

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 09, 2010, 01:19:46 pm »

From what I understand, they take away a majority of rich peoples earnings in Canada so that they can pay for healthcare. Must be a terrible place to live.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #49 on:** January 09, 2010, 01:43:27 pm »

Quote from: GMUNat on January 09, 2010, 01:19:46 pm

From what I understand, they take away a majority of rich peoples earnings in Canada so that they can pay for healthcare. Must be a terrible place to live.