Nationals @ Marlins, Game 1

[hleeo3]

edited.
Wow shut up Dibble, how is that 2 run homer treating us from the last inning we saw hanley?

[sportsfan882]

just missed that one. whew

[JMW IV]

hahahaha

I'm serious.  He gives up so many big flyballs, they would be routine outs in RFK.

[sportsfan882]

I'm serious.  He gives up so many big flyballs, they would be routine outs in RFK.

I wouldn't mind playing in a park with RFK's dimensions considering our bad pitching staff.

the hitters we have now generally have no problem hitting the ball out if they get solid contact unlike in '05 when we had mostly bums who always complained about the dimensions because they were wusses and couldn't hit.

[The Chief]

there is no way the current version of livan is better than the current j.d. martin.

8.0 IP, 3 R
7.1 IP, 2 R

^^  As far as I know, Martin has never done that.

[sportsfan882]

Orr strikes out on a ball that almost hits him

[Nathan]

What the hell was Orr swinging at, good lord!

[hleeo3]

The more bad swings Orr takes the more playing time he gets.

[sportsfan882]

8.0 IP, 3 R
7.1 IP, 2 R

^^  As far as I know, Martin has never done that.

i know you like these type of stats:
Martin has given up 3 earned runs or fewer in 7 out of 10 starts.

but seriously he has a 4.45 ERA. not bad for a #5 pitcher. he's not good by any means but I would much rather have him as a #5 starter over livan.

[JMW IV]

RIGGLEMAN - PETE ORR freakING SUCKS . HE'S TERRIBLE. HE'S NOT A GOOD BASEBALL PLAYER. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS RIGHT AND HOLY IN THIS WORLD, STOP PLAYING HIM YOU DUMBASS.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

i know you like these type of stats:
Martin has given up 3 earned runs or fewer in 7 out of 10 starts.

but seriously he has a 4.45 ERA. not bad for a #5 pitcher. he's not good by any means but I would much rather have him as a #5 starter over livan.

Livan's ERA is 4.44 since joining the Nats.

I'm not really going to advocate using either one right now (still plenty of baseball to be played between now and next April), but there isn't some huge disparity between the two of them.

[The Chief]

i know you like these type of stats:
Martin has given up 3 earned runs or fewer in 7 out of 10 starts.

That'd be a nice stat if half of those starts weren't 2, 4, or 5 IP

[JMW IV]

SO NICE HAVING 3 AUTOMATIC OUTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LINEUP

[The Chief]

there isn't some huge disparity between the two of them.

Sure there is:

Martin has uselessly short flashes of brilliance with an occasional quality start, and an occasional crapper.

Livan has serviceable outings with an occasional great outing and a crapper every 3rd or 4th game.

[sportsfan882]

Martin needs a change-up baddddddddd.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

Sure there is:

Martin has uselessly short flashes of brilliance with an occasional quality start, and an occasional crapper.

Livan has serviceable outings with an occasional great outing and a crapper every 3rd or 4th game.

Both equate to the same end result: overall mediocrity.

[JMW IV]

That'd be a nice stat if half of those starts weren't 2, 4, or 5 IP

in SF's mind, it is a fact that Martin went 8 2/3 in each of those outings.

[sportsfan882]

good play by Guzman.

[JMW IV]

I swear, Charlie Slowes sounds like an old man, chilling in his recliner telling baseball stories.

[sportsfan882]

Guzman 0/3 with 2 Ks

[hleeo3]

well Guzman stuck out again...

[The Chief]

Both equate to the same end result: overall mediocrity.

If all you're looking at is their ERA, sure.  If you can't see beyond that, then I've said all I have to say.

[sportsfan882]

If all you're looking at is their ERA, sure.  If you can't see beyond that, then I've said all I have to say.

since when has ERA become such a taboo stat?

[hleeo3]

If all you're looking at is their ERA, sure.  If you can't see beyond that, then I've said all I have to say.

Livan and Martin have given the Nats chances to win some games. In the end it boils down to the rest of the team.

[JMW IV]

Guzman 0/3 with 2 Ks

and it begins....