Author Topic: Following the Minor League Teams (2009) (Read 191563 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #600 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:37:27 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 29, 2009, 06:35:27 pm

Too bad we had to trade Gunderson, he was one of the only decent relievers we have in the entire system.

? that sucks. relief pitching should be the easiest thing to stockpile in your farm system.

I'd really like to see them take a couple of college relievers in this year's draft. Preferably ones better than Zinicola and Carr who are both trash.

Blueliner · « **Reply #601 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:32:18 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 29, 2009, 06:37:27 pm

? that sucks. relief pitching should be the easiest thing to stockpile in your farm system.

I'd really like to see them take a couple of college relievers in this year's draft. Preferably ones better than Zinicola and Carr who are both trash.

No way. You take college starters and if they can't cut it as starters, you move them to the pen. Drafting relievers is not a good decision, especially with your higher draft picks.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #602 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:39:04 pm »

Quote from: Blueliner on April 29, 2009, 08:32:18 pm

No way. You take college starters and if they can't cut it as starters, you move them to the pen. Drafting relievers is not a good decision, especially with your higher draft picks.

I didn't say higher picks. just somewhere in the middle rounds.

converting starters into relievers has failed miserably for us so far.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #603 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:11:24 pm »

okay outing for Detwiler tonight in Harrisburg: 5 IP 6 H 3 R 1 ER 3 BB 2 K. He's in line to get the win if the pen holds it.

He hasn't been stellar nor bad so far in Harrisburg this year. Kind of like last year in Potomac. Just average. His current ERA after today's start stands at 4.15.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #604 on:** April 29, 2009, 10:32:06 pm »

so much for Detwiler getting his first win. Novoa and Zinicola gave up 8 hits and 4 runs in 3 innings of relief to blow it.

The Senators had 19 hits tonight and only 6 runs. 7 players for them had 2 or more hits. and despite all that they lost 7-6 for their 11th straight defeat.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #605 on:** April 30, 2009, 01:01:32 am »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 29, 2009, 06:35:27 pm

Too bad we had to trade Gunderson, he was one of the only decent relievers we have in the entire system.

i was a huuuuuge fan of his, hell look @ my post a couple pages back. it sucks we lost him, but hopefully logan - aka wolverine - can get the job done.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #606 on:** April 30, 2009, 11:31:50 am »

another decent start by DET last night, i'm cool with it.

and harrisurg is playing akron right now, the senators trying to end their skid.

cory van allen

is on the bump with a 1-0 lead in the bottom 3rd.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #607 on:** April 30, 2009, 11:38:12 am »

damnit i jinxed CvA, he gave up a solo shot. 1-1 in the 4th.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #608 on:** April 30, 2009, 11:39:43 am »

damnit. i really jinxed him. back-to-back solo shots. 2-1 akron in bottom 4th.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #609 on:** April 30, 2009, 11:48:00 am »

eh, marvin lowrance just misplayed a ground ball to the outfield and it's now 3-1 akron.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #610 on:** April 30, 2009, 11:50:39 am »

it seems like CvA gets rattled easily. he fell apart in the 4th.

NFA Brian · « **Reply #611 on:** April 30, 2009, 12:07:03 pm »

VanAllen seems to be a future LHRP to me ... stuff isn't there for starts.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #612 on:** April 30, 2009, 12:28:25 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on April 30, 2009, 12:07:03 pm

VanAllen seems to be a future LHRP to me ... stuff isn't there for starts.

I suppose. he's given up like 6 HRs in 16 IP this season.

The Harrisburg Senators are the worst baseball team on the planet.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #613 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:26:17 pm »

nice outing for Adam Carr today. 2 IP 5 H 5 R 5 ER 3 BB 0 K 1 HR.

12th loss in a row for the Sens as they fall to 2-16.

blue911 · « **Reply #614 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:27:32 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 30, 2009, 02:26:17 pm

nice outing for Adam Carr today. 2 IP 5 H 5 R 5 ER 3 BB 0 K 1 HR.

12th loss in a row for the Sens as they fall to 2-16.

I thought these were the same guys that won the Carolina league last season.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #615 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:30:58 pm »

glad to know the plan is working.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #616 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:34:18 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on April 30, 2009, 02:27:32 pm

I thought these were the same guys that won the Carolina league last season.

Some of the same guys. A lot of these guys were on this Harrisburg team last year though like Mike Daniel, Rhinehart, Baez, Lowrance, Leonard Davis, etc. Most of those guys are okay players but not really big prospects. Most of the highly regarded players are in Potomac still.

Harrisburg's rotation looks good on paper but they aren't as a whole getting the job done. Detwiler has been okay, not great, but okay. Atilano who was great for Potomac last year has really struggled. VanAllen has been a disaster. Justin Jones has been the best of the bunch. Alaniz just came back from the DL and was okay in his first start back.

Worst of all is the relief pitching. Other than Josh Wilkie the rest have been pretty bad.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #617 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:37:13 pm »

Desmond getting injured didn't help Harrisburg any. He was playing real well and with him out they had to play Michael Martinez at SS and he has made a bunch of errors and hasn't done much with the bat.

Rhinehart was really bad for the first few weeks but he is coming around a little bit. (4 walks to 13 Ks on the season)

Same with Leonard Davis. He has struggled for the most part but is coming around a little bit. (2 Walks to 17 Ks on the season)

Adam Carr, Matt Avery, Yunior Novoa, and Zack Segovia have been awful out of the pen.

blue911 · « **Reply #618 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:38:45 pm »

Wasn't Van Allen hurt last season?

NFA Brian · « **Reply #619 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:43:29 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 30, 2009, 02:37:13 pm

Adam Carr, Matt Avery, Yunior Novoa, and Zack Segovia have been awful out of the pen.

I'll give you 3/4 on that. Segovia has had one bad outing. Prior to that he was putting up good numbers for the Senators. He got torched in his last outing but prior to that he had gone 9 1/3 allowing ten hits, no walks, and only one earned run while striking out eight.

NFA Brian · « **Reply #620 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:44:27 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on April 30, 2009, 02:38:45 pm

Wasn't Van Allen hurt last season?

Yes. They never officially reported what it was but I was told by a couple of folks it was a tired arm.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #621 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:46:10 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on April 30, 2009, 02:38:45 pm

Wasn't Van Allen hurt last season?

yeah. he was off to a really good start too. 3-0 with a 0.66 ERA in Potomac and then pitched in Harrisburg for a while before getting injured.

He finished last year with a 5.13 ERA in 10 AA starts.

So far this year he is 0-2 with a 7.31 ERA.

blue911 · « **Reply #622 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:50:01 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on April 30, 2009, 02:43:29 pm

I'll give you 3/4 on that. Segovia has had one bad outing. Prior to that he was putting up good numbers for the Senators. He got torched in his last outing but prior to that he had gone 9 1/3 allowing ten hits, no walks, and only one earned run while striking out eight.

Minor leagues seem like a crap shoot. Some pitchers are working on one pitch and the team isn't looking at anything beyond how well that is progressing. Others are trying to build arm strength or simply compile a bunch of innings.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #623 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:58:47 pm »

Moving VanAllen to the pen might be a good idea at this point, he had some good innings, but overall it sounded like he was laboring out there for most of the game. I know I've said it before, but the same is true for Detwiler. I am almost certain Detwiler would not make a good major league starter from the games I have seen him play in, the games I have listened to him pitch in, and the things that I have read about him.

blue911 · « **Reply #624 on:** April 30, 2009, 03:01:40 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 30, 2009, 02:58:47 pm

Moving VanAllen to the pen might be a good idea at this point, he had some good innings, but overall it sounded like he was laboring out there for most of the game. I know I've said it before, but the same is true for Detwiler. I am almost certain Detwiler would not make a good major league starter from the games I have seen him play in, the games I have listened to him pitch in, and the things that I have read about him.

I thought Detwiler's problems were control related. (He can't repeat his pitches)?