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"Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« on: July 21, 2026, 03:05:04 pm »
Starting this based on Welch's idea of having a place to discuss the prospects we've lost, or who just didn't work out, after we lock their threads.

Thinking about an all-time top-10 of those who failed to live up to expectations:
1. Carter Kieboom
2. Jackson Rutledge
3. Mason Denaburg
4. Aaron Crow (did not sign)
5. Eric Fedde
6. Seth Romero
7. Alex Meyer
8. Brian Goodwin
9. Chris Marrero
10. Colton Williams

Honorable mention: Armando Cruz,

And the ones who got away:
1. Lucas Giolito
2. Dane Dunning
3. Jake Bennett
4. Robbie Ray
5. Jesus Luzardo

And some we acquired who busted:
1. Robert Hassell III
2. Gerardo Carrillo / Donovan Casey (Scherzer/Turner trade)

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2026, 06:51:48 pm »
Strikes me that Kieboom was overrated from the beginning. He could not field in the majors, and never hit. Why did Rizzo draft him?

Fangrapghs scouting report shows him as a respectable hitter (45-55) with decent power (45-55 in "game power", and 55-60 in raw power). He was slow, and an average fielder (40-45) with a strong arm (60). Future value 55.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/carter-kieboom/19958/stats/batting

Nats drafted him 28th in 2016, so that's when the team was good and Rizzo has taking chances with his first-round picks.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2026, 07:41:38 pm »

Romero should be #1 on this list...punk ass loser...

Goodwin doesn't belong in the top 10 on this list.  He spent 6 seasons in the Bigs in, albeit, limited action, and had a career average of .244/.318/.440/.757...far more respectable than some of our current players...and was a good outfielder...


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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2026, 08:29:26 pm »
Goodwin also was a decent backup here in 2016-17. 

Alex Meyer got us D Span. I'd say he was more of a sell high / Rizzo at his best dealing.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2026, 09:04:38 pm »

Alex Meyer got us D Span. I'd say he was more of a sell high / Rizzo at his best dealing.

Only 22 MLB games though...so I can understand him being on the list as a bust if we're also bemoaning those that panned out elsewhere...


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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2026, 09:22:06 am »
Hassell still puzzles me. Did he give up when the Nats got Christian Franklin? Maybe Pittsburgh will, somehow, get him going again...

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2026, 11:25:02 am »
Hassell still puzzles me. Did he give up when the Nats got Christian Franklin? Maybe Pittsburgh will, somehow, get him going again...

Pittsburgh assigned him to their FCL squad, hasn't seen game action yet.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2026, 12:26:43 pm »
So after Gerardo Carrillo elected FA in 2023, he caught on with the Rangers, was released in 2024, then resigned and missed the 2024 season. He again became a FA in 2025 and signed with Arizona in December of that year. He was recalled two days ago, made his major league debut yesterday, and will be on the roster against the Nats this weekend.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2026, 04:23:01 pm »
Marquis Grissom Jr. Only a 13th round pick but he advanced fairly quickly and had some success at AAA before falling apart and dealing with some injuries. Released today.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2026, 05:41:03 pm »
Marquis Grissom Jr. Only a 13th round pick but he advanced fairly quickly and had some success at AAA before falling apart and dealing with some injuries. Released today.
played in a Futures Game when his dad was managing.

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Re: "Busted" - The Prospects Who Didn't Pan Out
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2026, 09:30:45 am »
How about Jackson Rutledge? He was one of the last Big Three starters that Rizzo drafted. Best I remember, Rizzo explained that a team is built around starting pitchers, such as Zimmermann, Gio, Strasburg, Max. Cavalli, Cole, and Rutledge were to be next. Rutledge had TJS, I think, about 2019, and fell behind the other two. He threw hard, but never quite had control, or at least not consistently.

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Reply #255 on: August 18, 2024, 07:47:02 pm »
2.1 innings, 4 ERA 3 hits and 4 walks.

Was sitting 92/93 with the fastball. Think its time to convert him to a reliever

A day later, Aspenbubba quoted Slate, and commented:

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jackson Rutledge, RHP
« Reply #256 on: August 19, 2024, 07:23:37 am »

Dump him. I can’t believe his spot start was good and he performs like garbage in the minors.

Nats tried him as a reliever, but pitched badly in the majors this year, but respectably in Rochester until he was DFA'd in April, acquired bt the Phillies, and sent to their AAA team in May.

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Missed this but the Phillies released Jackson Rutledge on July 23rd.

What happened to him? Did he never recover his control after TJS? Did he ever have it? Did he give up this year, when he began with a job in the Nats' bullpen? Did he quite on himself in Rochester?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=rutled002jac