2025-2026 Offseason Discussion Thread

[RobDibblesGhost]

Well, this game was a fitting end to the season, wasn’t it?

Let’s hope for some good moves this offseason.

[Slateman]

Do we want to split between offseason moves for the major and minor league roster and offseason moves for the front office, coaching, and player development infrastructure?

[zimm_da_kid]

Trade wood, gore, Ferrer, and Abrams

In Poboni we trust

[IanRubbish]

Looking forward to the Coles, Hickey, and Cairo announcements

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Do we want to split between offseason moves for the major and minor league roster and offseason moves for the front office, coaching, and player development infrastructure?

I can do breakouts but let's think about this

[aspenbubba]

I can do breakouts but let's think about this

My thought is that this will be a major house cleaning with at least half the roster, all the coaches with maybe 2 exceptions and many of the FO being non-tendered, DFA'ed , fired or thrown off the So Cap St bridge. So I suggest 3 different threads.

[HalfSmokes]

My thought is that this will be a major house cleaning with at least half the roster, all the coaches with maybe 2 exceptions and many of the FO being non-tendered, DFA'ed , fired or thrown off the So Cap St bridge. So I suggest 3 different threads.

My thought is that ownership is too disinterested for that to happen. They’ll be the normal moves around the edges and dumpster dive free agents

[imref]

My thought is that this will be a major house cleaning with at least half the roster, all the coaches with maybe 2 exceptions and many of the FO being non-tendered, DFA'ed , fired or thrown off the So Cap St bridge. So I suggest 3 different threads.

Coaching staff is likely gone, maybe Doolittle hangs on and becomes the pitching coach, but i'd expect that everyone else is gone.

[imref]

I can do breakouts but let's think about this

we have a thread already for the managerial search. https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=42159.25

I don't think we need any others.

[Slateman]

My thought is that this will be a major house cleaning with at least half the roster, all the coaches with maybe 2 exceptions and many of the FO being non-tendered, DFA'ed , fired or thrown off the So Cap St bridge. So I suggest 3 different threads.

I don't think there will be as much turnover as you think. Toboni survived, and thrived, in three different regimes, despite how bad the Red Sox were at drafting and player development. I expect Toboni to do a lot of talking and see who is worth keeping.

[imref]

Looking at the current 40-man: (I'm sure i'm missing someone)

FAs who are gone: Law, Bell (though wouldn't surprise me to see them bring him back), DeJong,  Alfaro, Pilklington (though I hope we can retain him), Lao

One more year of control: Williams and Ogasawara

Questionable: Lara, Loutos, Brzykcy, Ribalta, Salazar (all pre-arb). Garcia Jr. , Adams, Thompson (all arbitration eligible)

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Williams is on a 2 year contract. Salazar, Pilk, and Lao are under team control. Shinno has a 2d year.

[imref]

Williams is on a 2 year contract. Salazar I think is under team control. Shinno has a 2d year.

Thanks, I misread spotrac for Ogasawara. Yeah, we do have Trevor next year so they can stash him on the 60-day and hope he comes back at some point.

Salazar is pre-arb.

[Slateman]

What is the active payroll limit? Same as this year? Under 100 million?

[Smithian]

Do we want to split between offseason moves for the major and minor league roster and offseason moves for the front office, coaching, and player development infrastructure?

I support this

[Smithian]

My thought is that this will be a major house cleaning with at least half the roster, all the coaches with maybe 2 exceptions and many of the FO being non-tendered, DFA'ed , fired or thrown off the So Cap St bridge. So I suggest 3 different threads.

Pretty much everything that could be moved on the active roster was. Not much left to be blown up.

On staff, you may see a coach stay, but most are gone. Thankfully.

A lot of the front office senior already left, and below them a bunch of staff were brought in between 2023 and 2024. I still think it's possible DeBartolo is retained as GM, and even if he goes I think you see some newer arrivals kept because you can't blame them for this situation.

[imref]

What is the active payroll limit? Same as this year? Under 100 million?

Do you mean the budget that the FO is given by ownership? I don't think they would ever publish that.  This year's payroll, according to Spotrac, came out at around $109M.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

This team desperately needs a righty heart of the order bat. If they go into next year with Wood, Abrams, and Lile, you would feel that could do at 1,2  and 4 as lefties, but even if you are a Crews optimist, he's only one guy. You need a righty for 3 & 5. Can live with House as 7.

[Natsinpwc]

This team desperately needs a righty heart of the order bat. If they go into next year with Wood, Abrams, and Lile, you would feel that could do at 1,2  and 4 as lefties, but even if you are a Crews optimist, he's only one guy. You need a righty for 3 & 5. Can live with House as 7.

Crews will be better next year.  But they do need another righty.  Rhys Hoskins please.  Good clubhouse guy also. 

[blue911]

Crews will be better next year.  But they do need another righty.  Rhys Hoskins please.  Good clubhouse guy also.

He’ll be 33 coming off a left thumb injury that caused him to miss the second half. I just don’t see it.

[blue911]

This is crap free agent class.

[Slateman]

Do you mean the budget that the FO is given by ownership? I don't think they would ever publish that.  This year's payroll, according to Spotrac, came out at around $109M.

Right, but we know there is a limit. I'm trying to figure out what it is.

That payroll also includes deferred money and the Strasburg salary. So, we're shelling out almost 40 million this year for Strasburg and Lowe. So, to start the season, the active payroll was about 75-80 million. Is that how much Toboni has this year? Cus if so, that isn't a lot and we still have the same holes as last year.

Figure Gore gets a healthy raise in arbitration, but beyond that, everyone should stay similar.

[Slateman]

Crews will be better next year.  But they do need another righty.  Rhys Hoskins please.  Good clubhouse guy also. 

He’ll be 33 coming off a left thumb injury that caused him to miss the second half. I just don’t see it.

This team has to get better starting pitching. The plan can't be to roll into next season and hope the two guys who finished last and second to last in ERA get better. Even if it costs you somewhere else, they need to get a real starting pitcher.

[blue911]

This team has to get better starting pitching. The plan can't be to roll into next season and hope the two guys who finished last and second to last in ERA get better. Even if it costs you somewhere else, they need to get a real starting pitcher.

Agreed on the starters. I could be talked into Nunez at short, Abram’s at second middle infield.

I’m more concerned about correcting the shoddy game play. Which includes the coaching staff as well as ownership investing in industry standard technologies.

[Slateman]

Agreed on the starters. I could be talked into Nunez at short, Abram’s at second middle infield.

I’m more concerned about correcting the shoddy game play. Which includes the coaching staff as well as ownership investing in industry standard technologies.

We're going to get new coaching. We'll see about the technology.

Like, trading for Yandy Diaz and Mitch Keller/Pablo Lopez/ would do wonders for this team.