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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2025, 06:30:52 pm »
What are we going to do with a zamboni on a baseball field?

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2025, 07:23:30 pm »
We already know his favorite prospect.

https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=42268.0

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« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2025, 07:24:20 pm »
In line with keeping playoffs on the front page, I noticed mlb.com is not putting the managerial firings on its home page.

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2025, 07:16:04 am »
I'm afraid I already think of him as Tobeleroni... ;)

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2025, 08:56:57 am »
I'm afraid I already think of him as Tobeleroni... ;)
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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2025, 09:03:13 am »
Intro on now on masn 1

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #81 on: October 01, 2025, 09:04:56 am »
Marky Mark 1st to talk. The brothers in law on dias with Toboni.

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2025, 09:13:17 am »
any mention of DeBartolo's future?

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« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2025, 09:17:47 am »
the payroll question to Mark: Says we gave him assurances, they are committed to provide resources to get back to where they were, and will discuss it with him when the time is right.

Feel like we've heard that before.

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« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2025, 09:31:23 am »
The DeBartolo question: Will they hire a GM? Non-answer - not a definite yes or no at this time about having a defined GM role. Said about 10 people reached out to him to praise DeBartolo and that he's been impressed in limited interactions. Says he looks forward to working alongside him.

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« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2025, 09:31:53 am »
Mark did not look good BTW. He's had a tough few years.

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2025, 09:33:47 am »
any mention of DeBartolo's future?
at end. Toboni said he was 10 for 10 on people who spoke positively about DeB, and said how much he liked him in the conversations they've had. Sounds like he has a chance to stick if he likes the  role given.

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« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2025, 09:35:50 am »
the payroll question to Mark: Says we gave him assurances, they are committed to provide resources to get back to where they were, and will discuss it with him when the time is right.

Feel like we've heard that before.
also thought it revealing the non-answer on is the idea short term or long to contend, Mark dodged it.

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« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2025, 09:44:55 am »
also thought it revealing the non-answer on is the idea short term or long to contend, March dodged it.

If they were going to spend they would've done it by now. Its not happening.

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« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2025, 09:48:33 am »
Themes?
1) build a draft and development "monster."
2) consistent coaching throughout organization
3) seems to be a big hoops fan. Mentions Gregg Popovich philosophy, Georgetown Howard and DeMatha, corrected his pronunciation of coach wooden of dematha (no Gary Williams and UMD?).
4) emphasize details of how to play game. Mentions contact plays from 3rd, how to make a tag on a runner, etc ...
5) look for staff that aren't just knowledgeable about baseball but who are effective in conveying it to ballplayers.
6) I  could see the people person part of his personality.
7) after praising dc sports culture, says what he’d like to bring from Boston is how kids come to games at night. Very family focused.
8 ) talked a lot about competiveness and measuring success by the scoreboard

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2025, 09:52:41 am »
Well, it sounds like the Nats may have made a pretty good hire - after last 5 years, we deserve it!

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2025, 09:52:58 am »
I never saw Nussbaum before. Looked young still considering he's been around for several years. Didn't he take over for Jane's in 2019?

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2025, 09:54:49 am »
Well, it sounds like the Nats may have made a pretty good hire - after last 5 years, we deserve it!
Interesting also to hear how in his old role he built relationships with not only college / high school coaches but also the guys who run the offseason training academies

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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2025, 10:15:46 am »
"Assurances"


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« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2025, 11:16:56 am »
the payroll question to Mark: Says we gave him assurances, they are committed to provide resources to get back to where they were, and will discuss it with him when the time is right.

Feel like we've heard that before.

Yup...so we're gonna be suck again this year...and for years to come...

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« Reply #95 on: October 01, 2025, 11:19:18 am »
Themes?
1) build a draft and development "monster."
2) consistent coaching throughout organization
3) seems to be a big hoops fan. Mentions George Popovich philosophy, Georgetown Howard and DeMatha, corrected his pronunciation of coach wooden of dematha (no Gary Williams and UMD?).
4) emphasize details of how to play game. Mentions contact plays from 3rd, how to make a tag on a runner, etc ...
5) look for staff that aren't just knowledgeable about baseball but who are effective in conveying it to ballplayers.
6) I  could see the people person part of his personality.
7) after praising dc sports culture, says what he’d like to bring from Boston is how kids come to games at night. Very family focused.
8 ) talked a lot about competiveness and measuring success by the scoreboard

Any relation to Gregg?

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« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2025, 11:37:04 am »
While Nussbaum, Golden, and Svrluga asked questions from the  WaPo, the first two articles up are by Janes and Boz.

Janes's piece was partially written based on interviews before the press conference bit also includes press conference quotes. It is more of a backgrounder on Toboni's history:
Nats new president brings scout’s eye to franchise in need of modern vision

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By 30, Toboni was running Boston’s amateur scouting department under Bloom. After Breslow took over baseball operations in 2023, Toboni played a key role in engineering sweeping changes to the organization’s amateur scouting and player development departments — part of an aggressive modernization effort that aimed to tie scouting to player development more directly but that also forced the departure of many organizational staples.

Notes Boston's ascent from 20th ranked system by BA in 2020 to #1 in 2025, giving them both important players for this year's team and the depth to deal for Crochet. Talks about "alignment" (a Breslow term) and "shared values" in the organization, and makes a reference to the Raffy Devers deal as perhaps an example of dealing guys who don't buy in. From today's press conference:

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“To me, it’ll be sharing the values I hold sacred. First and foremost, I talk a lot about joy. You want to be around people who can remain positive through ups and downs, who add energy to any room they’re in,” he said. “I think about humility a lot. [Hall of Fame basketball coach] Gregg Popovich says it: I want people that have gotten over themselves, who don’t take themselves too seriously and are open-minded.”

Janes mentions the "making the scoreboard visible" quote I alluded to.

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“It sounds a little callous at times, and I don’t mean it to be, but we want there to be winners and losers,” he said. “What I mean is, I can’t imagine playing a basketball game, one-on-one, and not keeping score. If you don’t win, that’s okay, but let’s identify the ways we can get better so we can win. Getting folks who are competitive is really important as well.”




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Re: Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2025, 11:39:48 am »
Any relation to Gregg?
:lol: corrected. The only NBA coaches I know are Red, Russell, Tommy Heinsohn, KC, Doc, and Mazzulla. Oh, Brad Stevens too. 

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« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2025, 11:44:44 am »
:lol: corrected. The only NBA coaches I know are Red, Russell, Tommy Heinsohn, KC, Doc, and Mazzulla. Oh, Brad Stevens too.

Didn’t take you for a Holzman fan.

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« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2025, 11:58:38 am »
Dear Paul Toboni: I’ve watched these Nationals. Here’s what you’re in for.

The new president of Washington’s baseball operations has rough road ahead. Here’s a map toward higher ground.


Boz's piece.

He presents a few factoids / stats about just how  bad the 2025s were. 2d worst run differential by a lot. 5.35 ERA ("dreadful"). No Nats who pitched at least 25 innings had an ERA at or below MLB average of 4.15. Notes that 2 of the 3 top pitchers in the minors needed surgery this year, and the 3rd, Clemmey, is only 20 and needs development.

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But for realists, including me, the message of Irvin, Parker, Sykora and Susana — all of it put together and looked at candidly — is that it’s time for ownership to step up after underfunding every level of the organization since their World Series win in 2019 and the death of patriarch Ted Lerner before the 2023 season.

The Lerners, too often dysfunctional on big decisions, need to tell Toboni to spend what it takes to sign two free agent starting pitchers — not stars, but professionals — so that the 2026 Nats can start to build a competitive culture, not reinforce a laughingstock identity. You don’t hire a new leader for your team and then give him a hand that can’t be played. If you’re going to rebuild your rebuild, you better not do it with Tinkertoys.


Says hitting  is not as big of a task, but the one message that needs to be pounded home is "stop hitting ground balls." Emphasizes how, other than Lile and Abrams, none of the players hit enough balls in the "ideal" 20 percent launch angle range.

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Every Yankee who hit at least 200 balls into play — a dozen of them — had a launch angle of at least 12.4 degrees.

Of the 12 Nats with 200 such “batted ball events,” just three had a launch angle of at least 12.4 degrees, with Jacob Young (3.8), Nasim Nuñez (5.0), Brady House (5.8), James Wood (6.3), Dylan Crews (8.5) and Luis García (9.2) notably bad.

Who does it right? Lile’s launch angle was at 15 degrees, the same as Shohei Ohtani. Aaron Judge, in his career, is 15.8.

Getting an optimal launch angle isn’t just for power hitters. It helps anyone. But the ’25 Nats had nine players who hit groundballs on 46 to 56.7 percent of their balls in play.


Just to finish the thought, no Dodgers or Yankees, and only one BoSox, hit 46% groundballs.

HE then turns to the defense, noting that the Nats only had 4 above average fielders: Young in CF, Crews in RF, House at 3rd, and Nunez at SS. Supports starting Nunez at SS and moving CJ to 2nd. He says make Garcia a platoon utility guy. For the money, to me that's questionable.