Toboni: Not just a Jabroni for POBO

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Didn’t take you for a Holzman fan.

I guess it's age, but I'll note that while talking about DC basketball and Popovich, Toboni didn't mention Auerbach, who ties DC and Boston.

[IanRubbish]

I guess it's age, but I'll note that while talking about DC basketball and Popovich, Toboni didn't mention Auerbach, who ties DC and Boston.

Toboni's a Bay Area guy. 

[madj55]

I never saw Nussbaum before. Looked young still considering he's been around for several years. Didn't he take over for Jane's in 2019?

I think that was Jesse Dougherty - then Golden replaced him and they added Nusbaum shortly after that.

[tomterp]

Themes?

3) seems to be a big hoops fan. Mentions Gregg Popovich philosophy, Georgetown Howard and DeMatha, corrected his pronunciation of coach wooden of dematha (no Gary Williams and UMD?).

Yeah, he said Wooden (as in John Wooden) instead of Wootten (as in Morgan Wootten).  It was a quick correction.  But yes, a very poor oversight to mention Howard but not Maryland.  Maybe he isn't up on local geography or college basketball history.

[blue911]

I guess it's age, but I'll note that while talking about DC basketball and Popovich, Toboni didn't mention Auerbach, who ties DC and Boston.

Used to see Red at the Ruby restaurant in Chinatown. That had to be the mid to late seventies.

[IanRubbish]

Yeah, he said Wooden (as in John Wooden) instead of Wootten (as in Morgan Wootten).  It was a quick correction.  But yes, a very poor oversight to mention Howard but not Maryland.  Maybe he isn't up on local geography or college basketball history.

Was encouraged to see he didn't even try to reference the DC NBA team

[imref]

Toboni's response on the Junkies about payroll growth:

"I feel great support. Is it easier to win if you're spending a lot of money in free agency? Yes, that is objectively true.. To us, the cleanest path to winning and creating a sustainable winner is identifying, acquiring, developing talent. Regardless of what our payroll is, you have to dominate that to be contender deep into the playoffs."

[Slateman]

[imref]

Yep. Obviously the sustainable model is to grow from within and supplement with FAs as needed. I wanna hope he wouldn't have taken the job without guarantees that the Lerners will spend. But I also thought Rizzo wouldn't have renewed his contract without spending guarantees as well.

[tomterp]

Used to see Red at the Ruby restaurant in Chinatown. That had to be the mid to late seventies.

I used to park his car.  He was a member at Woodmont Country Club in Rockville.  I think was an avid tennis player.  He'd drive up in his little 2 seater Mercedes, DC plates "CELTS".  After playing tennis he'd play cards (second hand info) before heading out.  He'd tip $1 which was the upper scale for us.

You would also remember Stan Levine, team doc for both Terps and 'Skins.  He would come early and park in the nearest spot.  When he left in the late afternoon he was typically well fortified and would also tip a buck, despite the car being 50 feet away and him having parked it himself.  Both Stan and Red were universally liked by our valet staff. 

[Slateman]

Yep. Obviously the sustainable model is to grow from within and supplement with FAs as needed. I wanna hope he wouldn't have taken the job without guarantees that the Lerners will spend. But I also thought Rizzo wouldn't have renewed his contract without spending guarantees as well.

Pretty obvious that the Lerners "assurances" and "verbal guarantees" are worth the paper they're printed on

[imref]

Via Alex Flum - DCNewsNow

In today's presser, Nats owner Mark Lerner said he's given new President of Baseball Ops Paul Toboni assurances about building a winner.

I asked Toboni more about those assurances of investing in the team.

"I had many of those conversations and I feel supported."

[varoadking]

Regardless of what our payroll is...

So he already knows it's gonna be suck...

[varoadking]

I also thought Rizzo wouldn't have renewed his contract without spending guarantees as well.

Rizzo was a sellout that quit after 2019.  He was just interested in his cashflow and he knew he had a good thing that he likely couldn't get elsewhere...so why fight it...

[para]

Do we rip off the bandage and let Cairo go?  I say yes. He didn't show much in his trial as coach often parroting Davey's words so often, it was like he never left.  Let's bring in new blood on coaching staff and let those going through the motions go elsewhere. Possibly keep Parra and Doo because they were players who bled Red White and Blue for our team as players and seem to want to restore the Nationals Brand and make it a place for players who want to come here and stay. 

[varoadking]

Possibly keep Parra and Doo because they were players who bled Red White and Blue for our team as players and seem to want to restore the Nationals Brand and make it a place for players who want to come here and stay.

The Manager, whomever that may end up being, should have 100% control of the coaching selections.  Parra and Doo were good soldiers, but it's likely time for them to fade away...

[Kevrock]

Seems like a solid hire, now sell the team

[zimm_da_kid]

Clint Robinson for manager, Chad Tracy for bench coach, Bernadina for 1B Coach, Matt Stairs for hitting coach, and Brian Bixler for 3B coach

[imref]

Clint Robinson for manager, Chad Tracy for bench coach, Bernadina for 1B Coach, Matt Stairs for hitting coach, and Brian Bixler for 3B coach

need to find a spot for Brian Schneider.

[Lintyfresh85]

Can we bring back Kevin Long? I know he's the hitting coach for the Phillies but maybe he wants the challenge of rebuilding the Nats

[tomterp]

Bochy was fired, should he be on the short list?

[aspenbubba]

Can we bring back Kevin Long? I know he's the hitting coach for the Phillies but maybe he wants the challenge of rebuilding the Nats

He was up for manager here when they eventually hired Davey (?) but he left before the final decision was rendered and signed with the Phillies(?). He ain’t coming back.

[Slateman]

He was up for manager here when they eventually hired Davey (?) but he left before the final decision was rendered and signed with the Phillies(?). He ain’t coming back.

He was never seriously considered for the manager position here.

He is absolutely a viable candiate and could be brought back with relative ease. He is exactly the kind of manager we need. He knows how to communicate analytics to players to produce tangible results.

[aspenbubba]

He was never seriously considered for the manager position here.

He is absolutely a viable candiate and could be brought back with relative ease. He is exactly the kind of manager we need. He knows how to communicate analytics to players to produce tangible results.

So you are proposing a batting coach with no managerial experience even as a bench coach or interim manager is a viable candidate?

[Slateman]

So you are proposing a batting coach with no managerial experience even as a bench coach or interim manager is a viable candidate?

Yes. We just hired a POBO with no GM or POBO experience.

He has managed at the minor league level.